So what would be your idea of an advanced monitor today?

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Select your preference in each category

  • Panel: TN is good enough

  • Panel: IPS or better is a must

  • Refresh: 60Hz - Who needs 3D anyway

  • Refresh: 120Hz - Even photos look better on this

  • Resolution: 1080p - My OS won't take high DPI with grace

  • Resolution: 2560x1600 - I want those pixels

  • Resolution: 3840x2400 - I don't even want to see the pixels

  • Size: 24" - Small is good

  • Size: 27" - Let's settle for middle ground

  • Size: 30" - I want it BIG


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MrK6

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30" is a good size, but I want the newest IPS and higher resolutions (3800x2400 @ 30" sounds awesome). LED backlighting would also be great too. 120Hz would be nice as well, but I'm not in any rush. If they could eliminate input lag more I'd rather that than 120Hz.
 

Voo

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I know about the DPI setting and that's what I actually meant when I was talking about changing the font size. Even though you can change the DPI, the displayed UI seems a little off. I can't explain it but it just doesn't seem natural. It's like everything is familiar but just slightly off kilter.

It's also not an auto-detected feature so the common user won't even know they can change the DPI.
I used the settings some time and while I couldn't notice anything wrong with the standard OS components (Win7), lots of applications misbehaved - but completely possible that I missed also some spots in the OS itself, but I found it especially noticeable in some 3rd party applications.

And yeah it really should be a more prominent feature (auto detection is problematic since some people will want default DPI even with a really low dot pitch and where would you draw the line? But a note when first installing the new monitor or something like that would be useful). Especially considering that more people using it = better compatibility with 3rd party software
 

ace55

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120hz IPS edge-to-edge glass with a resolution of 1080p or greater. By the time such a monitor is released (which would have to been when 120hz becomes mainstream, as I cannot see any of the traditional gaming-focused companies marketing such a monitor), top end graphic card horsepower needs to catch up and be able to run new games at max settings in surround/eyefinity resolutions at 120 fps. We have a long way to go.
 
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Voo

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Is IPS even capable of 120hz refresh rate? I thought we'd have to use different panels like PVA as a compromise.

And as long as that's the case (well I could be wrong), I'd always take IPS @60Hz over TN @120..
 

cbn

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top end graphic card horsepower needs to catch up and be able to run new games at max settings in surround/eyefinity resolutions at 120 fps. We have a long way to go.

I like the idea of Eyefinity, but in order for something like that to catch on triple bezel-less monitors would have to replace a TV purchase for most people.

But is this even possible?

Could drivers on ATI Video cards rearrange a 1080p TV image across three monitors in portrait? Or would image quality suffer badly for not running native resolution?
 

cbn

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Is IPS even capable of 120hz refresh rate? I thought we'd have to use different panels like PVA as a compromise.

And as long as that's the case (well I could be wrong), I'd always take IPS @60Hz over TN @120..

How about OLED? Doesn't that technology solve some refresh rate limitations? Or am I getting this confused with something else?
 

smackababy

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I could dig a large format OLED. Supposedly, large scale manufacturing of them would make them cheap.
 

mhouck

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Is IPS even capable of 120hz refresh rate? I thought we'd have to use different panels like PVA as a compromise.

And as long as that's the case (well I could be wrong), I'd always take IPS @60Hz over TN @120..

Dude. I already linked to a 120hz IPS in this thread. come on. Its like 4k but whatever....
 

gorobei

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OLED
60"
6000x2000 pixels (functional equivalent: 5x1 portrait eyefinity)
3:1 aspect ratio
120hz
48 bit integer rgb color
wireless display (WiDi)

you dont need bezeless displays if the panel is already wide enough. Stop thinking in terms of current technology.
Doc: You're just not thinking fourth dimensionally!
Marty McFly: Right, right. I have a real problem with that.
 

cbn

Lifer
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OLED
60"
6000x2000 pixels (functional equivalent: 5x1 portrait eyefinity)
3:1 aspect ratio
120hz
48 bit integer rgb color
wireless display (WiDi)

you dont need bezeless displays if the panel is already wide enough. Stop thinking in terms of current technology.

I realize bezeless displays are not needed if the screen is big enough.

Trouble is larger than 1080p sizes are not standardized for high volume.

Would OLED change this?
 

Chaotic42

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I'm a monitor freak and I either want a good (non-TN) 2560x1600 120Hz monitor or if I have to settle for 60Hz, I want some 5120x3200 at 30" action.
 

Chaotic42

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I personally follow two rules when buying computer components:

1. The $200 rule: No 1 component of my PC will cost more than $200. This includes the monitor.

2. I will set aside $50 per month for PC parts and will spend no more than what is accumulated in that set aside


By keeping the limit below $200, I was able to get an ACER 24" TN Panel that I think is just great. Its pretty standard though, and my next upgrade will probably be to 120Hz...when it comes below the price limit.

These rules help me to control my pc parts lust by keeping me a generation behind most of the time (see my rig below), but I find I actually enjoy the process of finding the best tech for the $ at a given time (next up is my CPU.....the 6 core AMD procs at $199 just hit my price point)

If you have to spend big on a computer, the monitor is the place to do it. This very message is being typed up on my still-awesome 2405.
 

HurleyBird

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My perfect monitor? 240Hz (for 3D 120hz, or 60hz per eye is not enough. there's a reason lots of people get sick with current shutter tech), H-IPS, 12-bit panel, LED backlight, wide gamut (willing to wait until the rest of the industry catches up) 30", 2560x1600+ res (but needs to be 16:10), no input lag, thin bezel, stand with pivot, height, and tilt. If this monitor existed, I would pay up to about $4000 for it. And then I would consider saving up for eyefinity.

In the meantime, my single LP2475w is pretty decent.
 
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velis

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Wow
Thanks guys for the voting and replies.
Though I must say I'm a bit surprised at the voting results. I didn't expect monitor size to have such an even distribution.

That said I completely agree with the DPI debate. Too many 3rd party softwares have pixel designed dialogs with point sized fonts. How lame can that be?!? I guess MS made programing for Windows too easy while at the same time failing to provide decent visual design tools. Goes for Linux guys as well, wouldn't know about Mac.

Anyway, I guess starting with 120 - 150DPI monitors, many folks would start complaining and app designers would be forced to fix the issues with scaling. Then we could finally move to 300, 600 and higher DPI monitors.

That would be total nirvana for me :)
 

velis

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Dam, double post. Forums went non-responsive for a while :(
 
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Cerb

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Goes for Linux guys as well, wouldn't know about Mac.
Mac mostly handles it fine, and if you use Qt-based stuff, you're fine on Linux, too (you can do DPI-based sizes even in Tk, but you have to work at it, where Qt3 makes it moderately easy, and with Qt4, it works unless you screw with it). Even GTK+ isn't that bad, as almost all apps use Gnome's settings, so you can just bump up your font sizes (the problem there will be things like buttons with no text, window decorations, etc.).

As for Windows, I haven't tried newer Visual Studio versions (I'll be doing a long-term Win7 installation soon, and then...), but previous versions' graphical GUI creation UIs did use pixels for the sizes of many things, by default. On 7, it is pretty neat, it will increase the size of a window to match the new settings, and fuzz it out. OK, it's blurry, but if your fonts are set to 150%, that window will be 150% its original size, if it can't properly scale it.
 
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citan x

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1,000,000 contrast 30" 5120x3200 120 Hz Display.

I agree that windows and most software is very ill-equipped to handle high ppi displays. It is so bad that high ppi has developed a bad reputation.
 

palladium

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I just bought a Dell U2711 because I'm finding 19*12 a lil small for work. But anyway, IPS is a must, 120Hz is desirable, and I prefer 16:10 altho 16:9 works fine too