So what scene in 24 made it jump the shark for you?

purbeast0

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I think for me, it was last season when they let the terrorist walk into CTU with the stolen ID card, and how the security guy just let this guy walk in without having ever seen him before, and he let him bring a big ass brief case in. that was then when i realized how stupid CTU is.

they are all about stopping terrorists, yet they have the dumbest fvcking people working for them, and they have atleast 1 mole a season. same goes for the people in the white house.

there are too many scenes this season where i could give examples, but i think that is kind of what I remember about it from last season.
 

waggy

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yeah that really pushed it. but for me it was the bomb going off this season.


hahah yeah it does seem like they have some really dumb people working for them. not to mention security is s hit.
 

Mursilis

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I thought the season before that (4?) was even more convoluted. I couldn't believe how easy it was to steal a stealth fighter, and what little security was used by the military to transport a nuke! :roll: That whole scheme - steal stealth fighter, shoot down Air Force One, retrieve president's 'football' with launch codes, fire aforementioned stolen nuclear missle - was too convoluted for words.
 

torpid

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About episode 6 of season 1. And repeatedly in each and every episode since then.
 

JulesMaximus

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The one where they had Jack Bauer dress up in jeans and a black leather jacket and try to jump a shark tank on his motorcycle.
 

sygyzy

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The same question should be asked about The Simpsons. I'd answer, "about 6 years ago."
 

destrekor

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most of these things are merely there to allow the season to continue.
most scenarios, if handled by real agents, would be so quickly taken care of that only a few hours of the whole season would actually even take place.
this season, for example... the SWAT-like unit is pathetic and always fail at their main task. but i will continue to watch, as even though its predictable at times, I still heavily enjoy it. that's what TV is there for... entertainment. :)
 

clamum

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: clamum
any 24 fan can tell you the show has jumped the shark ...

Not this fan.

then you are just in denial.

Naw. ;)

To me the show has always been extreme and required the suspension of disbelief in order to enjoy it.

deniiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaallllllllll

NEIN
 

davestar

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i can't pinpoint the FIRST scene that jumped the shark, but i was laughing my ass off as Edgar was getting poisoned
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: destrekor
most of these things are merely there to allow the season to continue.
most scenarios, if handled by real agents, would be so quickly taken care of that only a few hours of the whole season would actually even take place.
this season, for example... the SWAT-like unit is pathetic and always fail at their main task. but i will continue to watch, as even though its predictable at times, I still heavily enjoy it. that's what TV is there for... entertainment. :)

yeah the SWAT team is crap! they had 3 attempts and failed each one!
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: torpid
About episode 6 of season 1. And repeatedly in each and every episode since then.
Hey, I made it to episode 9 :)

I still need to find & watch the one where Elisha is running from the animal in the cold though. A friend from work told me that scene is quite TITillating...
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: torpid
About episode 6 of season 1. And repeatedly in each and every episode since then.
Hey, I made it to episode 9 :)

I still need to find & watch the one where Elisha is running from the animal in the cold though. A friend from work told me that scene is quite TITillating...

Not that scene, but the one afterwards in the cabin with the lonely guy. A totally unnecessary t-shirt scene. By unnecessary I mean entirely necessary.
 

jpeyton

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The one where Bauer shoots purbeast0's dog.
 

BigJ

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This season did it for me. After the nuke, it was meh. I'll watch it every now and then, but Heroes is just a much better show so I'm out of the 24 loop for awhile.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The one where they had Jack Bauer dress up in jeans and a black leather jacket and try to jump a shark tank on his motorcycle.

Jack Bauer could totally pull that off blindfolded. He'd be able to shoot the shark in the eye while flying in mid-air, too, and land on top of some terrorists when he came down from his world record jump :)
 

Jeeebus

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Still a loyal fan, but if you're looking for silliest 'WTF" scenes from 24 I'd say it was in Season 4 when Marwan (sic?) was in the middle of the desert (i.e. no buildings, just dirt) riding along in a jeep with a CTU helicopter following him with a spotlight on the jeep. This is how the episode ended. In the next episode, the helicopter somehow lost him in the pursuit.

How the hell do you lose a jeep in the desert?
 
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Uhh, it's a progressive thing for me. Season 5's killing of Tony kinda did it for me though. I was sick and tired of the random deaths. If that's what it takes to keep a show afloat by killing people off to get gasps and screaming fans, then that's SAD. The basic elements of keeping a show intense, suspenseful and climatic all ended with Season 2. I notice that Season 2 is the season where a lot of basic elements of TV shows falls apart and all these shows sidetrack.

24: Season 3 was just BS. Come on. They couldn't drag the virus plot long enough so they divided it up into halves or so.
Season 4 was even worse. You went from meltdowns to what? I forgot what was going on, but there were multiple parts to the season.
Season 5... you go from killiing the president into starting a war with the Russians into striking the Russians into striking America? Please.

Season 1 and 2 kept it realistic. America got hit with 1 incident each time. In Season 1 it was Jack's family getting ripped apart. That's realistic. Season 2 was America getting hit by 1 terrorist blow. Season 5 was like wtf. You assassinate a president, then you blow up an airport, then you kill ab unch of people in a mall, and then what? Can you imagine what the world would be like in the middle of Season 5? YOu would not only have martial law declared but you would have looting, riots, and all hell woudl be breaking loose in America if 9/11 + Oklahoma City + 30 days of Iraq all occured within 24 hours on American soil.

Season 6 is outright stupid because it's a repeat of all 5 seasons. You take a little from eacha nd you stick it in. Yay.

I watch it because I've obviously invested 24 * 5 hours of my life into this show and I'll just continue to the end. I only watch it recorded. I watch Heroes live.

And if you think 24 is still godly, you're in denial or you're incapable of appreciating art and culture. 24 is so 1-dimensional. You can only go so far before Jack Bauer's "baddass-ness" gets old. It's just like Chuck Norris. It gets to a point where his shows aren't even serious and just a joke. Same here. I guess the serious nature of the show keeps it intact still, but honestly, if you think there's quality screenwriting here, you're out of your mind.

Season 1 was a work of art. It put you at the edge of your seat when you were like "Huh what's going on?" and a "OMG I want to see what happens next." That was the only season I could keep going NEXT EPISODE PLEASE! Then all the subplots fell in together and came to 1 giant megaplot. That's what TV shows are supposed to be like.

See how Heroes does it? You start with individual characters in their separate lives, and then slowly it all falls in place and their lives start to mesh together.

Same with Lost, except Lost did the mistake of opening too many doors and throwing out too many questions at viewers that it got old.

I hate it when my 24 friend goes "DID YOU WATCH IT TONIGHT? IT WAS SOOOO GOOD" Was it good? Maybe exciting, but the show being of GOOD quality is a little bit of an overstatement. I just tell him off and say "Ok, it might be exciting and filled with action, but if any show tonight was good, it was Heroes." Then he shakes his head and shows disapproval. Maybe if he watched Heroes to begin with, things would be different.
 

torpid

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Season 1 was garbage. The only reason I liked it is because it was the "first" season and you could forgive insane plot holes. How many times did "the mole" have a chance to ruin things in a much more concise manner? Answer: eleventy billion. They made a huge mistake in not writing who the mole was in advance. For this reason season 1 is utter crap, because it does not even stand up to its own internal logic.

So far this season I think there has been more "stupid characters" than obvious plot holes. Still not a good thing to have in a show, but a lot more forgiveable.