So...what positives can we take from the HD2900XT launch?

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: yacoub
AMD positively doesn't know how to make what the people want. They took all the time in the world and released a part that saps more power, makes more noise, and gives less FPS in the games people play. For that, they can lose more marketshare until they learn how to do it right.

How a card can have so many of the right hardware ingredients and lose to older products is beyond me. I guess I could ask NVidia about that too with their 8600 series having the same problem.

Really, no one has a reason to celebrate this. I'm certainly more disappointed than anything. I wanted this card to be good, so that I could either buy it or see the GTS go down in price.

In AMD's defense: They really had little to do with the design behind this GPU.

In ATI's defense: This GPU just might pwn in the DX10 Realworld.

you obviously have not seen the call of juarez dx10 benchmark

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/504/3/

Obviously even NV benefits from newer drivers. At 1600x1200 the 2900XT actually beats the GTX. No AA though, for some reason.

ATi isnt the only one with needs of better drivers;

The drivers AMD supplied us for Vista turned out to be nice and stable and I had no problems during the whole test. In contrast the latest NVIDIA drivers that I got from them still has some serious issues in Stalker and Oblivion (no AA regardless what I did)....

NV still having troubles with Vista drivers. Which you have to have for DX gaming.
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1099&pageID=3420%3Cbr%20/%3E

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: yacoub
AMD positively doesn't know how to make what the people want. They took all the time in the world and released a part that saps more power, makes more noise, and gives less FPS in the games people play. For that, they can lose more marketshare until they learn how to do it right.

How a card can have so many of the right hardware ingredients and lose to older products is beyond me. I guess I could ask NVidia about that too with their 8600 series having the same problem.

Really, no one has a reason to celebrate this. I'm certainly more disappointed than anything. I wanted this card to be good, so that I could either buy it or see the GTS go down in price.

In AMD's defense: They really had little to do with the design behind this GPU.

In ATI's defense: This GPU just might pwn in the DX10 Realworld.

you obviously have not seen the call of juarez dx10 benchmark

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/504/3/

Obviously even NV benefits from newer drivers. At 1600x1200 the 2900XT actually beats the GTX. No AA though, for some reason.

ATi isnt the only one with needs of better drivers;

The drivers AMD supplied us for Vista turned out to be nice and stable and I had no problems during the whole test. In contrast the latest NVIDIA drivers that I got from them still has some serious issues in Stalker and Oblivion (no AA regardless what I did)....

NV still having troubles with Vista drivers. Which you have to have for DX gaming.
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1099&pageID=3420%3Cbr%20/%3E

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/431/17/

not through this review, damn these inconsistent reviews! what is it! pick one!!!

 

[apoppin]

ok, swtethan

i have my case actually opened ... thank goodness .. got a couple of dust bunnies ... but anyway ...

i AM a little confused ... now ... and i thought i wasn't

First, which connector is my 8-pin ? the one you called

1 x 4-pin/8-pin CPU

--is it the one that provides the CPU with power, or something else?

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: swtethan


http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/431/17/

not through this review, damn these inconsistent reviews! what is it! pick one!!!

Dunno. According to FS, you cant use AA with NV cards in the game because of a bug. I guess thats why no AA numbers. Once again proving the point, that both ATi and NV could use some help in the drivers dept.

Later that evening NVIDIA noticed that the press obtained the demo and one day later issued a driver which was showing excellent performance and no weird stutters or anything anymore. The driver is the 158.42 driver which be will be released to the public this week.

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: apoppin
ok, swtethan

i have my case actually opened ... thank goodness .. got a couple of dust bunnies ... but anyway ...

i AM a little confused ... now ... and i thought i wasn't

First, which connector is my 8-pin ? the one you called

1 x 4-pin/8-pin CPU

--is it the one that provides the CPU with power, or something else?

That's an EPS-12v plug. PCI-E 2.0 power plugs are keyed differently from what I have seen. Maybe it said GPU only on the pciture you saw?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: aka1nas

Originally posted by: apoppin
ok, swtethan

i have my case actually opened ... thank goodness .. got a couple of dust bunnies ... but anyway ...

i AM a little confused ... now ... and i thought i wasn't

First, which connector is my 8-pin ? the one you called

1 x 4-pin/8-pin CPU

--is it the one that provides the CPU with power, or something else?

That's an EPS-12v plug. PCI-E 2.0 power plugs are keyed differently from what I have seen. Maybe it said GPU only on the pciture you saw?

ANYway ... i have TWO EPS-12v ... one is disconnected

and two PCIe power plugs

but isn't it MOOT anyway ? ... there ARE adapters ...

http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=...ONSID=4265ea9b345652cd24dde597eda8ded7

HARDWARE > COMPONENTS > ACCESSORIES > CONVERTER > LOGISYS 12V Molex to 8pin P8 Adapter Model: AD202
LOGISYS 12V Molex to 8pin P8 Adapter Model: AD202 (ITEM # 78361)


Logisys 12V Molex to 8pin P8 Adapter for PCI-Express Video Cards, Model: AD202





This adapter converts 2 standard 4-pin Molex coonectors into 1 8-pin P8 connector allowing you to use today's powerful motherboards! This Add-On Cable brings expanded functionality to any high end power supply that hasn't passed it's life cycle but is missing some latest connectors.

$6.99 ... i can afford one
:Q

thank the Dieties !!!! ... i can OverClock my HD2900xt
:shocked:


---so can anyone

:roll:

"you made me look"

--got me

 

[BFG10K]

Sapphire Toxic is right up your alley then.

To be honest I'd still rather have a 8800 GTX.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Sapphire Toxic is right up your alley then.

To be honest I'd still rather have a 8800 GTX.

if it were $400 i'd buy one ...

right now

sign me up!

my credit card is dangerously near