So what happens if North Korea doesn't follow through with their threats?

[OutHouse]

We did by sending B2 Stealth bombers there to standby

Lol fail.

 

[OutHouse]

Can someone explain the rational behind sending the B2 stealth bomber to North Korea when they don't even have a modern air force or AAMs? That seems to make little sense. We should Tomahawk missile their anti - aircraft defenses and use conventional bombers.

PS, and don't say "China" because that's not the reason.

Show of force and a very effective one. It completely unhinged the north koreans. A reality check if you will.

 

[OutHouse]

The beloved patriot's warfare should be respected. In that part of the world only the most soulless atrocities prevail. You don't hear about these people crying about PSTD, lost limbs, and the typical crybaby ailments that result from war. We Americans are not good at war. Its just not our thing, we're tool makers, business seekers, economy makers.

The wisest approach should be a behind the curtain handshake deal with Russia. They back China, we back the Japs. South Korea is a marvellous country, make some good shit and their economy is strong. Unfortunately all of Korea is doomed.

If you guys think North Korea just rolls over like some of these Arab countries you are a fool. The military industrial complex won't let that happen. There is a feast to be had. God just imagine a resurgent Imperial Japan. We have to wash our hands of this best we can...

Idiot, we are the best war mongers on the planet. Ten years of solid practice tends to sharpens ones skills.

 

[GoPackGo]

No preemptive strike this time. But if NK strikes first then we should finish the game.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Sending the U2 continually in an overflight along the same route is much different than running a B2 one time along the border.

Or a limited attack run. The difference between us and NK is far different from the U2 days.

 

[Juror No. 8]

The difference between us and NK is far different from the U2 days.

This is true. We spend far more time warmongering these days than we did back in 1960. We've probably gotten a whole lot better at killing brown and yellow people.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This is true. We spend far more time warmongering these days than we did back in 1960. We've probably gotten a whole lot better at killing brown and yellow people.

What color is technology?

 

[WelshBloke]

All of the recent belligerence coming from NK had me thinking about something the other day. No doubt South Korean Intelligence, State Department, and perhaps other depts. have plans on how to handle a sudden downfall of North Korea. Specifically with how to handle the millions of sudden refugees from North Korean and any holdouts among the military.

Pretend North Korea is suddenly without leadership, its citizens relatively free to move about for the first time.

How does South Korea, the US, and other allies react and handle this situation? I highly doubt among any plans is a sudden opening of the border, but no doubt aid would flow to the north.

I'd imagine that the peace after the war scares "our side" more than the war does.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'd imagine that the peace after the war scares "our side" more than the war does.

Only thing to do is fly in food. Nobody is crossing the DMZ.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This is true. We spend far more time warmongering these days than we did back in 1960. We've probably gotten a whole lot better at killing brown and yellow people.

You know I think I'm going to do a preemptive strike myself. What if SK is attacked? Are you going to say Bush or Obama fired the artillery? Might as well address the conspiracists now.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

No preemptive strike this time. But if NK strikes first then we should finish the game.

I agree, the former way of handling it is unsustainable and has only lead to the strengthening of their leaders positions among the people.

It's time to starve the fat rats and if they peek out, shoot them in the face.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

What color is technology?

Usually light green if you're referring to what i think you are referring to.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Usually light green if you're referring to what i think you are referring to.

I have no idea what you mean. :whiste:

 

[Juror No. 8]

What color is technology?

I don't know. You tell me.

 

[Juror No. 8]

You know I think I'm going to do a preemptive strike myself. What if SK is attacked? Are you going to say Bush or Obama fired the artillery? Might as well address the conspiracists now.

And what if North Korea is attacked? Will you find some way to blame it on the North Koreans?

"But, but, but... they had WMDs!"

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

And what if North Korea is attacked? Will you find some way to blame it on the North Koreans?

"But, but, but... they had WMDs!"

If NK is attacked after this buildup i would say they had it coming.

I just hope to hell that it's a roll over by China to get rid of the embarrassment of having to support a nations where the people are starving to a degree that they have actually resorted to eating their young.

 

[Juror No. 8]

If NK is attacked after this buildup i would say they had it coming.

Interesting logic, because nobody has had a bigger military buildup than the United States over the last several decades. In terms of money spent, weapons systems developed, military bases, and countries bombed, invaded, and occupied, it's not even close. The United States leaves the rest of the world in the dust.

So if the United States is attacked, would you similarly justify it by saying the Americans had it coming?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And what if North Korea is attacked? Will you find some way to blame it on the North Koreans?

"But, but, but... they had WMDs!"

You realize I was publicly against the Iraq war before there was one right?

What if North Korea is attacked? I won't be claiming they stole B52s or other assets to make it look like we did it.

I've answered your question. Your turn.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Interesting logic, because nobody has had a bigger military buildup than the United States over the last several decades. In terms of money spent, weapons systems developed, military bases, and countries bombed, invaded, and occupied, it's not even close. The United States leaves the rest of the world in the dust.

So if the United States is attacked, would you similarly justify it by saying the Americans had it coming?

1. I am not American
2. That the US went to war with Iraq meant that all of our work had been for nothing, at a time when we had Al Quaida corened and were ready to finish them off they called back ALL air support and left 15000 people who were basically civilians and who were not allowed to leave camp.

I am of the opinion that it was made ONLY because the war was about to end and they didn't want that, that is evidenced by the results. Before the invasion of Iraq do you know which group committed the most (by a margin of 100:1) terrorist attacks? Hindus. After allowing Al Qaida to reign free they are now present in pretty much every nation on earth.

So don't fucking come and tell me about how the US were wrong in invading Iraq, i could school you on the subject and while i'm at it i can also tell you that NO US troops were present while us Brits were the first on ground in both scenes.

This, of course, does not matter at all, NK is a fucked up nation that has gotten a sweet deal every time they have attacked the US bases, their population has not recieved one pence of it but the leadership lives in luxury.

It's not about being superior, it's about being a human being and hoping that the reign of terror will end.

 

[Juror No. 8]

You realize I was publicly against the Iraq war before there was one right?

What if North Korea is attacked? I won't be claiming they stole B52s or other assets to make it look like we did it.

I've answered your question. Your turn.

What if South Korea is attacked? Then they're attacked, I suppose. If North Korea wants to take a page out of the Pentagon's preemptive war strategy manual and launch a suicide mission, then what is there to say?

We'll have another war proving that governments only know how to exploit, extort, abuse, and murder their own citizens.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

What if South Korea is attacked? Then they're attacked, I suppose. If North Korea wants to take a page out of the Pentagon's preemptive war strategy manual and launch a suicide mission, then what is there to say?

We'll have another war proving that governments only know how to exploit, extort, abuse, and murder their own citizens.

Then i hope the UN will do what they are about to do in Uganda right now.

Making me superfluous here by sending in an offensive force.

If we could agree that no nation tolerates that kind of behaviour then we could do this there too, i think even China would be on board this time, they are probably the nation most tired of NK's antics.

I personally hope it all comes to an end and it implodes as any horrid dictatorship should but i look at Belarus and see that no one gives a fuck about the people in these nations anyway except me and those like me.

So no, nothing will happen, you can go back under the bridge now, i promise to give you a holler and a kick in the neck if something happens.

 

[Juror No. 8]

1. I am not American

Not sure how this is relevant, seeing as how I never made such a claim.

2. That the US went to war with Iraq meant that all of our work had been for nothing, at a time when we had Al Quaida corened and were ready to finish them off they called back ALL air support and left 15000 people who were basically civilians and who were not allowed to leave camp.

I am of the opinion that it was made ONLY because the war was about to end and they didn't want that, that is evidenced by the results. Before the invasion of Iraq do you know which group committed the most (by a margin of 100:1) terrorist attacks? Hindus. After allowing Al Qaida to reign free they are now present in pretty much every nation on earth.

Not entirely sure what you're arguing here, but it's clear you weren't interested in attempting to counter the staggering U.S. military buildup point I made.

So don't fucking come and tell me about how the US were wrong in invading Iraq, i could school you on the subject and while i'm at it i can also tell you that NO US troops were present while us Brits were the first on ground in both scenes.

Don't kid yourself. There's absolutely nothing you can school me on with regard to U.S. foreign policy. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

This, of course, does not matter at all, NK is a fucked up nation that has gotten a sweet deal every time they have attacked the US bases, their population has not recieved one pence of it but the leadership lives in luxury.

The U.S. is only marginally less fucked up than North Korea. And just like North Korea, our ruling political and economic class lives in tremendous luxury while the peasant tax slaves live in relative squalor.

It's not about being superior, it's about being a human being and hoping that the reign of terror will end.

What terror are you speaking of specifically? How will fighting a war against North Korea help end terror?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

US marginally better?

We eat only one kid?

 

[Juror No. 8]

US marginally better?

We eat only one kid?

Sounds like our own Jeffrey Dahmer.

 

[Ventanni]

North Korea won't do anything. They're so used to sabre rattling that it's all they know, but I think this time the world is just going to tell them to f*** off. When they realize they can't get what they want by threatening everyone every time, heck, maybe they'll change, or implode (hopefully).

It's no different than dealing with a bully at school. You just ignore them and eventually they get the point.