So what does everyone think about the must add discussion "rule"

[alchemize]

So I've noticed there is a new rule on the forum. I call it the "RIN PRIOR" rule.

R stands for Really
I stands for Insist
N stands for Now

PRIOR means you've been warned before.

It's very similar to the as yet undisclosed OBBND rule

The rules is we really insist now, that you've been warned in prior instances, and that if you "copy/paste" an article that has insufficient discussion points, you will be warned then vacationed. At least that's how I understand it.

I can only think of a small number of posters that have this posting style, and post a lot. I wonder if it will be fairly enforced? I wonder if it CAN be fairly enforced? I guess time will tell, won't it?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: alchemize
So I've noticed there is a new rule on the forum. I call it the "RIN PRIOR" rule.

R stands for Really
I stands for Insist
N stands for Now

PRIOR means you've been warned before.

It's very similar to the as yet undisclosed OBBND rule

The rules is we really insist now, that you've been warned in prior instances, and that if you "copy/paste" an article that has insufficient discussion points, you will be warned then vacationed. At least that's how I understand it.

I can only think of a small number of posters that have this posting style, and post a lot. I wonder if it will be fairly enforced? I wonder if it CAN be fairly enforced? I guess time will tell, won't it?

I feel a new MAZE CHILE rule being formulated...

CsG

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Who cares if it's fairly enforced? The point of the rule is to reduce crap threads. Cops catch a disproportionate number of poor, stupid, and minority criminals (and yes each of those can be mutually exclusive). Is it fair that crooks like Neil Bush get paid? Of course not! But that's life. Martha Stewart was small fry while Ken Lay is Chief Crook Executive Officer. They both deserve a flogging but who would argue Martha deserved a pass just b/c Kenny Boy had more people available to take the fall.

 

[Steeplerot]

I don't think the mods have a problem with cut and paste but attention whores like rip were getting old.
Free ipod scams and endless abortion propaganda get old after awhile, he was not interested in discussing
his views. He was just to leave as many steaming sh1tpiles in our forum as possible discussion be damned.
spam is spam you should know this you at least try to back your views up, defending him just makes you look
like more conservatives playing victim again. :roll:

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't think the mods have a problem with cut and paste but attention whores like rip were getting old.
Free ipod scams and endless abortion propaganda get old after awhile, he was not interested in discussing
his views. He was just to leave as many steaming sh1tpiles in our forum as possible discussion be damned.
spam is spam you should know this you at least try to back your views up, defending him just makes you look
like more conservatives playing victim again. :roll:

You've got balls calling out Rip when there are others that are far worse than him on the "other" side. I thought the OP was concerning a rule, not a person anyway...

EDIT: Oh, just noticed Riprorin was vacationed. Sorry, I don't follow the soap operas around here much... forget I said anything

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Who cares if it's fairly enforced? The point of the rule is to reduce crap threads. Cops catch a disproportionate number of poor, stupid, and minority criminals (and yes each of those can be mutually exclusive). Is it fair that crooks like Neil Bush get paid? Of course not! But that's life. Martha Stewart was small fry while Ken Lay is Chief Crook Executive Officer. They both deserve a flogging but who would argue Martha deserved a pass just b/c Kenny Boy had more people available to take the fall.

No need to make up rules to hide behind to get rid of people. All they need to do is do it.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't think the mods have a problem with cut and paste but attention whores like rip were getting old.
Free ipod scams and endless abortion propaganda get old after awhile, he was not interested in discussing
his views. He was just to leave as many steaming sh1tpiles in our forum as possible discussion be damned.
spam is spam you should know this you at least try to back your views up, defending him just makes you look
like more conservatives playing victim again. :roll:

You've got balls calling out Rip when there are others that are far worse than him on the "other" side. I thought the OP was concerning a rule, not a person anyway...

EDIT: Oh, just noticed Riprorin was vacationed. Sorry, I don't follow the soap operas around here much... forget I said anything

I am not denying that both sides have trolls but the obvious troll on the "left" (if he really is) Does not post endless spam. (Just craps threads out with RRR FLL stuff.)
Rant all you want in threads but don't post crap endlessly that makes more substantial postings fall. Not to mention flamebait, we all have fed the trolls occasionaly but the abortion spam is nothing but sh1t stirring.
I welcome posts about tough issues in here but posting 3 in one hour just kills P&N except for flamebait. Which is the point of his ban IMO, now maybe he will get something done besides being the brunt of jokes here.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't think the mods have a problem with cut and paste but attention whores like rip were getting old.
Free ipod scams and endless abortion propaganda get old after awhile, he was not interested in discussing
his views. He was just to leave as many steaming sh1tpiles in our forum as possible discussion be damned.
spam is spam you should know this you at least try to back your views up, defending him just makes you look
like more conservatives playing victim again. :roll:

You've got balls calling out Rip when there are others that are far worse than him on the "other" side. I thought the OP was concerning a rule, not a person anyway...

EDIT: Oh, just noticed Riprorin was vacationed. Sorry, I don't follow the soap operas around here much... forget I said anything

He was?!? Why? And what cut n' paste liberals have been sent away? Just curious if there have been.

BTW, where was this new rule announced, anyway?

 

[Steeplerot]

Plenty of people have been banned from the left. Myself included.
Just more whining about injustice, it is the conservative gig to silence opposition to their ideas.
Just becasue you think everything is a reason to get all uppity about "injustices" does not mean a rational person gives a sh1t and doesent see right through it.


Plenty of people who would agree you all are the "opressed conservative average americans"
matter of fact they have a whole forum dedicated to whining about the shadow horrors the "libs" lay on them. Post there so we can discuss things without your subversion and dishonesty.
http://www.freerepublic.com and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out (they'd probably like it)

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Plenty of people have been banned from the left. Myself included.
Just more whining about injustice, it is the conservative gig to silence opposition to their ideas.
Just becasue you think everything is a reason to get all uppity about "injustices" does not mean a rational person gives a sh1t and doesent see right through it.

IF the mods want to vacation people, they need to make up rules that will not be enforced 5 minutes later to do so.

 

[Infohawk]

I think people may be missing the point of the new rule.

Rip's behavior was bad for the forum mainly because it was so repetitive and he didn't really follow up on his own threads. In other words, he was a thread-crapper. Don't know how much it really had to do with the lack of editorializing though.

I think the rule may be more targetted towards people who only post stories and never comment. This would be a fair rule. If you just want to post and not to RESPOND, then start a blog or something.

As for fairness, I can only think of a couple posters on the left who post a lot of articles without comments in the first post. One of them is a very frequent poster but also posts A LOT of substantive responses further in the thread. If you post in his thread, he will respond the vast majority of the time-- unlike riprorin.

The other poster on the left that does this definitely does lack substance a lot of the time and usually sticks to quips. The redeeming quality with him is his containment to certain threads. You won't see multiple threads by him on the same or same area of topics in one day-- unlike riprorin.

So, when you find me a left-leaning poster who posts repetitive new threads and only marginally responds to posts, please let me know. Until then, there is no unfairness that I can see.

 

[Steeplerot]

Yeah and your username is Anand, for real there are plenty of forums to play victim on. example above.
I don't think you all get the point that it is not a democracy here, it is owned by someone, and not you.
I know the concept of a sort of media not being owned cut and dry by others willing to promote your agenda is tough to deal with in the modern world.
but it is not your concern plain and simple. life is no more fair then foxnews is "fair and balanced" The mods do their best to keep things centered but you all will NEVER be happy unless this place is a new republican hangout.
It's the conservative way or the highway and you do not see it obviously but others do.
Playing victim to garner support for your bias is getting old. Can your please keep the talk radio tactics on the radio and out of our forums for all?

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Who cares if it's fairly enforced? The point of the rule is to reduce crap threads. Cops catch a disproportionate number of poor, stupid, and minority criminals (and yes each of those can be mutually exclusive). Is it fair that crooks like Neil Bush get paid? Of course not! But that's life. Martha Stewart was small fry while Ken Lay is Chief Crook Executive Officer. They both deserve a flogging but who would argue Martha deserved a pass just b/c Kenny Boy had more people available to take the fall.

No need to make up rules to hide behind to get rid of people. All they need to do is do it.

One of the most amazing things about the internet is the seemingly endless number of places where one can discuss nearly any topic that strikes his fancy. Believe it or not, but the grass sometimes *is* greener over yonder in someone else's lot.

I quit posting here because my political persuasion put me on a "list". At first I thought it was the "if you break the rules, we will enforce the rules" list, however I quickly learned that I didn't even need to break the rules to find myself gagged.

Sometimes you just have to accept what is. Doesn't matter if its right or wrong, you really can't fight city hall and expect to win, sorry, but life just ain't always fair. Crying about the "unfairness" of the way things are run is nothing more than exercise in futility. I find it difficult to not be myself and I've accepted the fact that if I continued to post here I would eventually be banned permanently.

This forum doesn't deserve my participation. What does it deserve? Well, I'd say it deserves what "the management" really want it to be: A sea of BOBDN, Conjur, BBD, and McMoron's spittle spewed blubbering.

I say give them what they want, and have done so for the past 3 months. I see no reason to grace this pit with my presence in its current state. I invite those not so willing to pat on the back those mentioned 3 sentences prior to follow my example: Quit whining and hit the road.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Who cares if it's fairly enforced? The point of the rule is to reduce crap threads. Cops catch a disproportionate number of poor, stupid, and minority criminals (and yes each of those can be mutually exclusive). Is it fair that crooks like Neil Bush get paid? Of course not! But that's life. Martha Stewart was small fry while Ken Lay is Chief Crook Executive Officer. They both deserve a flogging but who would argue Martha deserved a pass just b/c Kenny Boy had more people available to take the fall.

No need to make up rules to hide behind to get rid of people. All they need to do is do it.

I don't get your angle. There have been more than a few days where a quick scan of the P&N forum would yield MULTIPLE threads by Rip. Most of which weren't really worth anyone's time. If this rule only snags ONE person . . . it's useful as long as you get the worst offender. IMHO, they got the right person . . . basically the low hanging fruit. And by making an example of him, everybody else gets the point.

Fromage with your wine, Corn. Hell, I stopped posting for a while b/c I saw so much tripe by people like Rip. Admittedly, you often had a decent POV but your current "victim" role is unbecoming. Rip was not vacationed b/c his ideas were "conservative", "Republican", or "unpopular." Much of his stuff was moronic. I left for a while b/c I thought this forum doesn't deserve my participation but that's a co-op for a weak will.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Who cares if it's fairly enforced? The point of the rule is to reduce crap threads. Cops catch a disproportionate number of poor, stupid, and minority criminals (and yes each of those can be mutually exclusive). Is it fair that crooks like Neil Bush get paid? Of course not! But that's life. Martha Stewart was small fry while Ken Lay is Chief Crook Executive Officer. They both deserve a flogging but who would argue Martha deserved a pass just b/c Kenny Boy had more people available to take the fall.

No need to make up rules to hide behind to get rid of people. All they need to do is do it.

I don't get your angle. There have been more than a few days where a quick scan of the P&N forum would yield MULTIPLE threads by Rip. Most of which weren't really worth anyone's time. If this rule only snags ONE person . . . it's useful as long as you get the worst offender. IMHO, they got the right person . . . basically the low hanging fruit. And by making an example of him, everybody else gets the point.

Fromage with your wine, Corn. Hell, I stopped posting for a while b/c I saw so much tripe by people like Rip. Admittedly, you often had a decent POV but your current "victim" role is unbecoming. Rip was not vacationed b/c his ideas were "conservative", "Republican", or "unpopular." Much of his stuff was moronic. I left for a while b/c I thought this forum doesn't deserve my participation but that's a co-op for a weak will.

My angle is simple. If there are rules and standards, post and enforce them evenly. There is no need to create a rule just to ban/vacation someone. If a user is a problem, take care of it, no need for the mods to hide behind imaginary rules.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

But what's your proof that Rip was "targeted?" If I read you correctly, you are saying there's nothing wrong with the rule but that it's not being fairly enforced? The only way to tell for sure is to have the mods post a list of every person that's been banned along with their infraction(s). The sole reason we are having this conversation is b/c Rip was an OBVIOUS violator. There might be ten left-of-center members banned recently for identical transgressions. We just didn't notice b/c they lacked Rip's "industriousness."

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
But what's your proof that Rip was "targeted?" If I read you correctly, you are saying there's nothing wrong with the rule but that it's not being fairly enforced? The only way to tell for sure is to have the mods post a list of every person that's been banned along with their infraction(s). The sole reason we are having this conversation is b/c Rip was an OBVIOUS violator. There might be ten left-of-center members banned recently for identical transgressions. We just didn't notice b/c they lacked Rip's "industriousness."

linkage

From tonight, no comment what so ever. No warning, no nothing. There are other threads with little no comment.

So is it is a rule or not?

 

[sandorski]

My only beef with the rule is that it was never formally announced. One day I was reading a thread and there's this post from a fellow Poster stating the rule and how someone was in contravention of said rule that apparently was in effect for a few days already. Later on that same day I checked out a Locked Thread(something that always catches my eye ) and there was a Mod posting the infraction of breaking the new rule. Seems to me a Sticky thread is the least that should happen in order to announce New Rules. I don't think that's too much to ask.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't think the mods have a problem with cut and paste but attention whores like rip were getting old.
Free ipod scams and endless abortion propaganda get old after awhile, he was not interested in discussing
his views. He was just to leave as many steaming sh1tpiles in our forum as possible discussion be damned.
spam is spam you should know this you at least try to back your views up, defending him just makes you look
like more conservatives playing victim again. :roll:

You've got balls calling out Rip when there are others that are far worse than him on the "other" side. I thought the OP was concerning a rule, not a person anyway...

EDIT: Oh, just noticed Riprorin was vacationed. Sorry, I don't follow the soap operas around here much... forget I said anything

noone comes close to rip on the relevant rule.

 

[yllus]

I thought it might work out great, but apparently it's a Riprorin-only rule. Meh, what can you do.

 

[aidanjm]

I'm fine with it.

 

[Crimson]

Wow.. didn't see this coming.. :roll: The first time I saw the mods post the rule my first thought was its the 'We want to ban Riprorin rule'. The mods told me when I was outraged by Dave's post referring to a W (As in George W Bush) on a little child's forehead as a swastika, that I should simply allow Dave to make an ass of himself. Ok, so you can post racist, inflamatory, bigoted things, and the mods pretty much accept it.. Well, thats as long as its directed toward whites, christians, conservatives, etc..

But, post news articles in the "Politics & News' forum.. OMG!! THE OUTRAGE!! THE HORROR!! How can we POSSIBLY allow this to continue?

Its clear what is happening here. This was a blatent attempt by the mods to silence a person they disagree with. Apparently they lack the ability to engage in political discussion, because otherwise they would have used reason and thought to discredit the person instead of making up bogus forum rules to get rid of them. The absolute TRASH thats allowed by the moderators in this forum is proof of that.

Speaking of rules, Mods, where exactly ARE these rules posted? Oh, thats right.. they're not. Riprorin! Follow the rules! Even though there is no list of rules, and we change them daily based on what conservative poster we want to silence this week.

What a joke.. my suggestion to Riprorin, find a new ISP, create a new account called 'PirRonin', post a link to a reference to the name 'Riprorin' in your sig, and then continue posting.. Nevermind the fact that you will be the exact same age, from the same city, have the same posting style.. the mods will be powerless to do anything about it... ::cough cough::

I also love the 'Don't like it, then leave' comments. Which to me is basically an admission of 'Hey, we know the rules aren't enforced fairly, but since the unfairness is against conservatives we don't care." The mods are only making this forum worse by pulling this crap..

Keep up the good work guys!

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
But what's your proof that Rip was "targeted?" If I read you correctly, you are saying there's nothing wrong with the rule but that it's not being fairly enforced? The only way to tell for sure is to have the mods post a list of every person that's been banned along with their infraction(s). The sole reason we are having this conversation is b/c Rip was an OBVIOUS violator. There might be ten left-of-center members banned recently for identical transgressions. We just didn't notice b/c they lacked Rip's "industriousness."

Hell yeah Rip was targetted. They targetted, sighted and nailed his spamming arse to the wall.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Wow.. didn't see this coming.. :roll: The first time I saw the mods post the rule my first thought was its the 'We want to ban Riprorin rule'. The mods told me when I was outraged by Dave's post referring to a W (As in George W Bush) on a little child's forehead as a swastika, that I should simply allow Dave to make an ass of himself. Ok, so you can post racist, inflamatory, bigoted things, and the mods pretty much accept it.. Well, thats as long as its directed toward whites, christians, conservatives, etc..

But, post news articles in the "Politics & News' forum.. OMG!! THE OUTRAGE!! THE HORROR!! How can we POSSIBLY allow this to continue?

Its clear what is happening here. This was a blatent attempt by the mods to silence a person they disagree with. Apparently they lack the ability to engage in political discussion, because otherwise they would have used reason and thought to discredit the person instead of making up bogus forum rules to get rid of them. The absolute TRASH thats allowed by the moderators in this forum is proof of that.

Speaking of rules, Mods, where exactly ARE these rules posted? Oh, thats right.. they're not. Riprorin! Follow the rules! Even though there is no list of rules, and we change them daily based on what conservative poster we want to silence this week.

What a joke.. my suggestion to Riprorin, find a new ISP, create a new account called 'PirRonin', post a link to a reference to the name 'Riprorin' in your sig, and then continue posting.. Nevermind the fact that you will be the exact same age, from the same city, have the same posting style.. the mods will be powerless to do anything about it... ::cough cough::

I also love the 'Don't like it, then leave' comments. Which to me is basically an admission of 'Hey, we know the rules aren't enforced fairly, but since the unfairness is against conservatives we don't care." The mods are only making this forum worse by pulling this crap..

Keep up the good work guys!

Tell this to someone who cares.

 

[Czar]

I like it, forces posters to actually think before they spam the forum

Though I do think we should add another rule, to have in the thread title what type of link it is for example

NEWS: Disneyland opens in Cuba

OPED: Why Disney plans to take over Cuba's gambling scene