So what do we know about MARS so far?

[Chaotic42]

Well, it's delicious almonds, nugat, caramel, and chocolate. I'd like to explore one now.

Mmmmmmm

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Well, it's delicious almonds, nugat, caramel, and chocolate. I'd like explore one now.

Mmmmmmm

No coconut for me!

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
No coconut for me!

Alright, I'll get you a Mounds bar.

 

[ChrisIsBored]

Originally posted by: RossGr

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
1. Any traces of water?
2. If yes, any traces of life? (even at microscopic level?)
3. Anything worth mentioning besides rocks and dirt?
4. Any cool substances or materials that aren't here on earth?
5. Anything unexpected/surprising?

1. Yes.

2. No, but they are not looking for that. Perhaps next misson. A good question is, how to identify life on Mars?

3. What do you expect?

4. No, And no chance of it either. Same universe, same periodic table, same minerals.

5. They made it safely to the surface?

:Q @ #4

How can you claim that just because we have a periodic table, that all the minerals in the universe are listed on it?

 

[matt426malm]

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: RossGr

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
1. Any traces of water?
2. If yes, any traces of life? (even at microscopic level?)
3. Anything worth mentioning besides rocks and dirt?
4. Any cool substances or materials that aren't here on earth?
5. Anything unexpected/surprising?

1. Yes.

2. No, but they are not looking for that. Perhaps next misson. A good question is, how to identify life on Mars?

3. What do you expect?

4. No, And no chance of it either. Same universe, same periodic table, same minerals.

5. They made it safely to the surface?

:Q @ #4

How can you claim that just because we have a periodic table, that all the minerals in the universe are listed on it?

are you going to find something with > 100ish protons then it's radioactive, so is it going to have 30.5 protons? New Isotopes maybe (not likely) but not new elements not at all possible. It IS the same periodic table.

 

[FungusFeet]

Originally posted by: matt426malm

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: RossGr

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
1. Any traces of water?
2. If yes, any traces of life? (even at microscopic level?)
3. Anything worth mentioning besides rocks and dirt?
4. Any cool substances or materials that aren't here on earth?
5. Anything unexpected/surprising?

1. Yes.

2. No, but they are not looking for that. Perhaps next misson. A good question is, how to identify life on Mars?

3. What do you expect?

4. No, And no chance of it either. Same universe, same periodic table, same minerals.

5. They made it safely to the surface?

:Q @ #4

How can you claim that just because we have a periodic table, that all the minerals in the universe are listed on it?

are you going to find something with > 100ish protons then it's radioactive, so is it going to have 30.5 protons? New Isotopes maybe (not likely) but not new elements not at all possible. It IS the same periodic table.

Last time I checked we hadn't found all the elements.

 

[matt426malm]

Originally posted by: FungusFeet

Originally posted by: matt426malm

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: RossGr

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
1. Any traces of water?
2. If yes, any traces of life? (even at microscopic level?)
3. Anything worth mentioning besides rocks and dirt?
4. Any cool substances or materials that aren't here on earth?
5. Anything unexpected/surprising?

1. Yes.

2. No, but they are not looking for that. Perhaps next misson. A good question is, how to identify life on Mars?

3. What do you expect?

4. No, And no chance of it either. Same universe, same periodic table, same minerals.

5. They made it safely to the surface?

:Q @ #4

How can you claim that just because we have a periodic table, that all the minerals in the universe are listed on it?

are you going to find something with > 100ish protons then it's radioactive, so is it going to have 30.5 protons? New Isotopes maybe (not likely) but not new elements not at all possible. It IS the same periodic table.

Last time I checked we hadn't found all the elements.

The elements up to 116 anything over that will be radioactive in all likelyhood some (the upper ones and a few lowers) were created artificially and are not stable so they would have decayed long ago if they were on Mars. Seeing has how Mars and Earth formed from roughly the same materials at the begining of our solar system how would it be all that different?

 

[Dark4ng3l]

How can you claim that just because we have a periodic table, that all the minerals in the universe are listed on it?

Anything we have not found(or created artificially) would be too unstable to exist verry long anyways. If you look at the bottom of the periodic table most of the elements/isotopes have verry short half-lives. Since mars has been arround for billions of years I doubt that you will be able to find new elements on it...... Not that highly unstable isotopes are usefull either. You cannot use them for chemical reactions because they spontaneousely lose protons.

 

[matt426malm]

I wonder what effects Mars's "static, unchanging" geologic activity has on the formation of minerals. If the hot spots don't move I wonder what effect that could have on formation of crystal ect. maybe they wouldn't be as spread out as on earth.

Read A Travler's Guide to Mars for an indepth look at Mars's geology, ice, rocks, geoactivity.

 

[TheAudit]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Bleep
There are NO traces of water on mars and none have been found. Only evidence that there may be.
Here is the proof.

Bleep

You know that article is 3 and a half years old right?

Mar Express maps water at southern Martian pole.

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: Dark4ng3l

How can you claim that just because we have a periodic table, that all the minerals in the universe are listed on it?

Anything we have not found(or created artificially) would be too unstable to exist verry long anyways. If you look at the bottom of the periodic table most of the elements/isotopes have verry short half-lives. Since mars has been arround for billions of years I doubt that you will be able to find new elements on it...... Not that highly unstable isotopes are usefull either. You cannot use them for chemical reactions because they spontaneousely lose protons.

Crap.....missed that question on the chemistry test I didnt think we had found them all!

 

[LuckyTaxi]

that it cost millions and millions of our tax payer's dollars to land on a planet only to find dirt.

 

[ChrisIsBored]

Two thumbs up for the idiots on this thread who claimed the Periodic Table would never change and it is what it is.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001848536_chemical01.html

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored
Two thumbs up for the idiots on this thread who claimed the Periodic Table would never change and it is what it is.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001848536_chemical01.html

Note the half lifes of these elements. It isn't that heavier elements can't be created but they aren't stable. Unless someone has a particle accelator on Mars working full time, you arent going to find these on Mars.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored
Two thumbs up for the idiots on this thread who claimed the Periodic Table would never change and it is what it is.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001848536_chemical01.html

Note the half lifes of these elements. It isn't that heavier elements can't be created but they aren't stable. Unless someone has a particle accelator on Mars working full time, you arent going to find these on Mars.

No, let the high schooler think what he wants to think. Anyone with a one-semester knowledge of general chemistry would know that anything that hasn't been found wouldn't be stable enough to have survived billions of years. This is obvious and intuitive.

Within a fraction of a second, the four atoms of Element 115 decayed radioactively to an element with 113 protons. That element never had been seen, either. The atoms of 113 lasted for as long as 1.2 seconds before decaying radioactively to known elements.

 

[rival]

well according to mr bush we're going to be living there within 72 hrs

 

[BuckNaked]

They should have let Toyota build the rovers...

 

[WinkOsmosis]

What's wrong with finding dirt? What do you think the Earth is made of?

 

[stormbv]

I'm pretty sure it's the next planet human beings are going to rape...hopefully we try to colonize the Sun after that.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: stormbv
I'm pretty sure it's the next planet human beings are going to rape...hopefully we try to colonize the Sun after that.

It really is just dirt. Better to rape mars than earth.

 

[oniq]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: stormbv
I'm pretty sure it's the next planet human beings are going to rape...hopefully we try to colonize the Sun after that.

It really is just dirt. Better to rape mars than earth.

How do you know its just dirt?

 

[matt426malm]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: stormbv
I'm pretty sure it's the next planet human beings are going to rape...hopefully we try to colonize the Sun after that.

It really is just dirt. Better to rape mars than earth.

oxidized eroded igneous rock, I agree, while I would like to see some parts of Mars preserved because some of the geologic formations are just gorgeous, and resources should be conserved I place Mars farther down the ladder than Earth. The moon could be raped for all I care, it is pretty much the definition of a giant rock.

 

[Palek]

You are all being deceived!!!

(For the paranoid: It's a zipped mpg)

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hmm, if the Moon had He3 on it, would not Mars as well?

If they can ever get a friggin fusion reactor to work, and it is retrievable on Mars, I would think a permanent colony could pretty much be set up right away. Doing so is just a matter of raw power. You could make anything once you had that.

 

[stormbv]

Space travel is lame, I'd rather be a psychonaut in my own little universe.