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So what can I do with Win2k server? (newbie)

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I have a 4 computer, peer-to-peer network where I share drives, and DSL internet connection via router.

Now that I have this OS installed on one of my systems, what can I do with it? What can I serve?

I know you're going to say "pr0n," but I want to keep this limited to internal stuff, because I don't know much about security and I don't want to get hacked.

So is there anything interesting I can do? I'm the only person that uses the computers, unfrotunately.
 
I'm sure you paid for it not knowing what you were going to do with it...

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My roommate & I have a legal copy of 2K advanced server running as our gateway to the internet. It's also a web server, Lotus Sametime server, a mail server, etc.

Viper GTS
 


<< I'm sure you paid for it not knowing what you were going to do with it... >>

ROFL. How did I know someone would ask that? 😛
 


<< you can watch it get hacked.

how about first learn how to secure win2k server. >>


Win2k is secure right out of the box.
Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉
 


<< how about first learn how to secure win2k server. >>

Alright, I'll start reading some of the very thick books I have about it.
 


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<< you can watch it get hacked.

how about first learn how to secure win2k server. >>


Win2k is secure right out of the box.
Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉 >>


hahaha
 


<< Win2k is secure right out of the box. Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉 >>



What's a service pack?
 


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<< how about first learn how to secure win2k server. >>

Alright, I'll start reading some of the very thick books I have about it. >>


Thickness is overrated. Securing W2K can be summed up as follows:
Disable/Delete unnecessary accounts
Disable remote registry access.
Rename the Administrator Account.
Disable/Uninstall unnecessary components and services.
Install patches.
Install patches.
Install hotfixes.
Install service packs.
Install roll-ups.
Install patches.
Install hotfix patch roll-up.
Install patches.

You get the picture 🙂
 


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<< how about first learn how to secure win2k server. >>

Alright, I'll start reading some of the very thick books I have about it. >>


Thickness is overrated. Securing W2K can be summed up as follows:
Disable/Delete unnecessary accounts
Disable remote registry access.
Rename the Administrator Account.
Disable/Uninstall unnecessary components and services.
Install patches.
Install patches.
Install hotfixes.
Install service packs.
Install roll-ups.
Install patches.
Install hotfix patch roll-up.
Install patches.

You get the picture 🙂 >>


You forgot one more statement: Repeat the procedure of downloading/installing new patches that come up every hour. 😉 Or disable services because there are vulnerabilities without patches. 🙂
 


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<< how about first learn how to secure win2k server. >>

Alright, I'll start reading some of the very thick books I have about it. >>



That's a good idea.. The "server" aspect of Win2K Server is a bit lost on a 4-host home network, but if you wish you can set up fun stuff like Terminal Services, vpn, Appletalk..
 


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<< Win2k is secure right out of the box. Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉 >>



What's a service pack? >>


It's free software Microsoft ships for your convenience.
 
Learn about server security?

Here's a good place to start. The National Security Agency (NSA) has developed security configuration guidance for Windows 2000, with the cooperation of the other government agencies and industry partners who provided their expertise and extensive technical review. The configuration guides for Microsoft Windows 2000 are being posted on the NSA web site and are presented in three parts: ".INF" files, configuration guides, and supporting documents.

National Security Agency Security Recommendation Guides

Personally I can't make heads or tails of what they're talking about. 😱
 


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<< Win2k is secure right out of the box. Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉 >>

What's a service pack? >>

It's free software Microsoft ships for your convenience. >>

I was being ironical.
 


<< I'm sure you paid for it not knowing what you were going to do with it... >>


You should not make those assumptions Viper, they only make you look condescending. I have Win-2000 Pro, Win-2000 Server, and Win-2000 Advanced Server. I got all three (full versions) at the same time from Microsoft for about $100.00 about a year and a half ago. They are all legit and MS knows I have them.
 


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<< Win2k is secure right out of the box. Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉 >>



What's a service pack? >>


It's free software Microsoft ships for your convenience. >>



Hahaha you said "convenience" in reference to a MS Service Pack! LMAO
 


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<< Win2k is secure right out of the box. Especially server. Especially when you got IIS running and don't install any service packs 😉 >>



What's a service pack? >>


It's free software Microsoft ships for your convenience. >>



Hahaha you said "convenience" in reference to a MS Service Pack! LMAO
 
<< Hahaha you said "convenience" in reference to a MS Service Pack! LMAO >>

Even funnier is that he said free software in reference to MS
 
Windows 2000 server has many features built into it which make running a server pretty easy. Wether that be a www server or an ftp server or a firewall/router for a home network or even a 300pc office network. Read your books for details. As for all this nonsense about it being really easy to hack that is just well its funny. The people you are hearing this from are most likely hard core Linux/BSD/NIX fans (and thats fine) but they don't really think before they type. MS is the most hated corp. in the world probably and there are people out there which spend their every waking minute finding holes any anything MS puts out. Given that fact one should realize that of course alot of holes are going to be found. Now take these same people and switch their bias and surely they would find just as many holes in any other os out there. 2000 server is good. Install it, patch it, and start serving.

Just incase anyone thinks I am an MS "fan" or that I work for them (hahahaha), that is simply not the case. I dislike them quite a bit actually but you have to give credit where credit is due and MS deserves quit a bit. So my stand point on "illegal" copies of MS OS's: Sure it is wrong for someone to have an illegal copy of 2000 server but is it not also wrong to charge $500 for it or whatever the cost is now. Thereby keeping just about everyone from having access to it. So as long as you are not using it in a business then who cares, I don't. As for the morality of it, HA! All these people talking crap about the people that are using pirated software MOST likely have pirated software on one of their systems and have no room to talk, and no firm ground to stand on when arguing their points. So have fun, and don't copy and redistribute for personal gain (meaning don't make any copies and sell them on the street, that would be verry wrong).

 
Number of processors (server:4, adv:8), amount of memory (server:4GB, adv:8GB), Clustering (server:none, adv:two-node failover, 32 node network load balancing).

Edit: Theres also Datacenter edition, which is only sold OEM with hardware. It supports 32 processors, 64GB of memory and cascading failover clustering among 4 nodes, and 32 node network load balancing. Finally there is now Advanced Server Limited Edition--check out this faq: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/64bit/aslefaq.asp
 
Now that is some shizy. I had now idea data center could do all that! Jesus! 32 processors! 64 gig of mem! My god! I WANT IT! Not but that is crazy 😀
 


<< I'm sure you paid for it not knowing what you were going to do with it...
You should not make those assumptions Viper, they only make you look condescending. I have Win-2000 Pro, Win-2000 Server, and Win-2000 Advanced Server. I got all three (full versions) at the same time from Microsoft for about $100.00 about a year and a half ago. They are all legit and MS knows I have them. >>


It's called sarcasm, I'm his roomate and I run the server. I work with a non-profit and it was (if I remember correctly) $100-120.

If you want to analize his statement it's kind of like someone saying they got a new expensive car that they know nothing about, and than joking about how a salesman could have ripped them off...


<< Now that I have this OS installed on one of my systems, what can I do with it? What can I serve? >>


I know you only have 4 machines, but if you really wanted you could setup a domain server and have the machines logging into a domain. We set up ours this way simply because it makes sharing networked resources easier (That and XP Pro runs much better on a domain, it gives you the ctrl+alt+del logins/locks, doesnt have as much annoying stuff).

The other big differance that nobody has mentioned is that if you were using Win 2K Pro it will only allow for 10 connections at any one point in time. If you were pulling multiple files off a fileshare from all 4 machines you could get close to going over that (because windows will open the next connection before it completely closes the 1st.).

It's stable too (although so is 2K, especially if you are using it to *just* run services, like a server usually does). Although MS had that 99.999% uptime marketing a while back I've never had mine up for more than about 45 days or so because MS keeps comming up with updates that make me restart (and if they dont I get virus updates that do).

Enjoy,
-Spy
 
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