So used SSD's are typically a bad idea, right?

desura

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Because the more an SSD is used, the more it degrades and loses capacity?
 

SSBrain

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Not a bad idea if you know how much used it's been. This information can be checked with SMART monitoring tools.

In 2009 I got a used Intel X25-E 64 GB. It had around 4.5 terabytes written, ie essentially nothing for this kind of drive (which was rated for 1 petabytes of writes). Best deal ever.
 

Charles Kozierok

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I think it's like any other component.. whether it's a good or bad idea depends on how it has been used, and for how long.

Buying used is always a crapshoot unless it's from someone you know you can trust.

Good SSDs degrade fairly slowly. I've been using an 80 GB Intel SSD as my boot drive for three years, and its media wearout indicator is at 93%. I don't use my C drive a great deal, though.
 

tweakboy

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You can never trust used SSD or any hardware. As charles said you dont know what they did to it........

maybe his rig is always in a hot room who knows. PC parts never buy used. end of story. thx gl
 

ensign_lee

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Not really. I've been using mine for 2.5 years now and SMART says I have used a whopping 8% of its useful life.

Crucial C300
 

corkyg

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Is not it built into the SSD?
 

Elixer

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any recommendations on programs? I'm looking at Crystal Disk Info on my 128 Crucial, and see no E9

Screenshot ?
It tells you on the upper right corner host writes/reads as well (if available)
 

2is

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Unless the SSD was used as a database drive which can be written to a whole lot, I don't think there's much of an issue.
 

F1shF4t

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any recommendations on programs? I'm looking at Crystal Disk Info on my 128 Crucial, and see no E9

For crucial look at attribute AD. That should give you the erase count (How many write cycles used)
 

SSBrain

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On the Crucial M4 the MWI is accurate. Here for example:

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B6 (Hex) would be 182 in decimal format.
As the NAND flash memory on the Crucial M4 is rated for 3000 write cycles, 182/3000 is almost is nothing. Yet, very few people write that much on an SSD.

On this drive 182 write cycles mean that 22 Terabytes in total have been written on the NAND flash memory (128 GiB * 182 = 22528 GiB = 22 TiB).
 

KillerBee

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Only had Chrystal Disk Mark installed before
so good to see this Chrystal Disk Info program

but after installing Chrystal Disk Info - downloaded from here http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en
suddenly got this addon attempt to Firefox: WhiteSmoke

Luckily then received notice from Firefox:
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WhiteSmoke (malware) has been blocked for your protection.

Why was it blocked?
This add-on is silently side-installed by other software, and doesn't do much more than changing the users' settings, without reverting them on removal.

Who is affected?
All Firefox users who have this add-on installed.

What does this mean?

The problematic add-on or plugin will be automatically disabled and no longer usable.
=================================================================

I think it was trying to make itself the default search engine
 
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KillerBee

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Only had Chrystal Disk Mark installed before
so good to see this Chrystal Disk Info program

but after installing Chrystal Disk Info - downloaded from here http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en
suddenly got this addon attempt to Firefox: WhiteSmoke

Luckily then received notice from Firefox:
===============================================================
WhiteSmoke (malware) has been blocked for your protection.

Why was it blocked?
This add-on is silently side-installed by other software, and doesn't do much more than changing the users' settings, without reverting them on removal.

Who is affected?
All Firefox users who have this add-on installed.

What does this mean?

The problematic add-on or plugin will be automatically disabled and no longer usable.
=================================================================

I think it was trying to make itself the default search engine

wow - it actually was able to add itself to the Firefox search engine list
despite being blocked :\
 

Makaveli

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Just saying that I never see SMART status in listings for used SSD drives.

Then its up to you as an informed customer to ask the seller for this information before any money exchanges hands.

This is the first piece of info I would want if buying a used SSD.