So tomorrow it begins for real

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: AliasX
I doubt he will really know what to do... I mean, he doesn't actually have any experience with any of this. I "hope" he makes it... not.

that's what advisers and Joe the Biden are for.

 

[palehorse]

wow.. some of you guys really need to stop watching movies.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: palehorse
wow.. some of you guys really need to stop watching movies.

as i was reading this, i was thinking the same thing...lol

 

[dahunan]

Will they brief him on Cheny and Osamas greatest hits productions

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: chess9
The President has a need to know everything the government is doing, so I can't imagine anything within the Executive Branch being lawfully withheld from him.

How did Bush know about all those WMD without having access to the FULL National Intelligence Estimate, including all the appendices, notes, and attachments? (Don't let the irony weigh you down.)

Without full access for our President, our country might be in danger. Someone must lead.

-Robert

No he doesn't need to know everything. That is what he has a staff for. They break down the information into parts that he can understand and make informed decisions about. I mean really do you want Obama making choices about things like how we research nuclear waste disposal or would it be better for his science advisor to just let him know how the progress is going and spare him the details which he isn't going to understand anyway ?

Basically the president gets cliff notes of things. It isn't that they are really being withheld, its just that it isn't relevant to him making a decision.

Just because we might have a weapon in development doesn't mean the president needs to know all the specifics, just that there is one.

There is a difference between the 'need to know' and 'knowing'. Most of the 'knowing' can't be done by the President. But, you couldn't deny him access to information about nuclear waste disposal because he doesn't have a need to know or it's too much information. This isn't just a minor point, particularly when that science advisor has decided the waste should be disposed in, say, downtown Chicago.

The smallest detail can bring down a government official....

-Robert

 

[SecPro]

Originally posted by: Zorba

Originally posted by: SecPro

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: SecPro

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Interesting. It's strange to me that to get to top secret intelligence you need a whack of background checks and all that, but if enough people say you're president, you can get EVERYTHING without any of that? Granted, it's part of the other side to see what your history is, but officially he would now have the top security clearance in the country, literally above anybody, and without any background check, right?

Also, is it true that the president can literally demand any information on anything? Are there cases where he'd be outside a need-to-know and unable to get information unless he truly had a good reason?

What's really funny is that if he wasn't going to be the President and actually had to apply to get a clearance he most probably wouldn't get one.

I hear this alot on these forums but never bothered to ask why people would say that? Why would you say that?

His drug abuse in college, his relationships with Ayers, Rezko and Wright would all be red flags.

His father not being a US citizen would also hurt, although since it isn't a very strong relationship it might not matter.

Question #18 US Standard Form 86 Forms Direct Link to SF86 PDF

Ayers, Rezko and Wright would never come up on the form. Question #29 is the "Association Record" question and Obama could answer NO to all parts.

The investigation isn't limited to what's on the form. As they started talking with people about him personally, looking at his past jobs, the boards he has sat on, etc., then talking with the people who's names came up in those interviews . . . . Initial investigations are very thorough, most threads get pulled on pretty hard.

 

[Zorba]

Originally posted by: SecPro

Originally posted by: Zorba
His father not being a US citizen would also hurt, although since it isn't a very strong relationship it might not matter.

Question #18 US Standard Form 86 Forms Direct Link to SF86 PDF

Ayers, Rezko and Wright would never come up on the form. Question #29 is the "Association Record" question and Obama could answer NO to all parts.

The investigation isn't limited to what's on the form. As they started talking with people about him personally, looking at his past jobs, the boards he has sat on, etc., then talking with the people who's names came up in those interviews . . . . Initial investigations are very thorough, most threads get pulled on pretty hard.

Well it is true they look beyond the form, the basics of what they are looking for are on there.

 

[Dufusyte]

The lie is different at every level. That means, the story they tell you is different, depending on your rank, situation and function.

The president [elect] will be told the lie suitable for presidents.

As for what is really going on, no one actually has a handle on all of it, because it is very compartmentalized, and generally riddled with deception. The dark world is a very dark world. Not a good place, actually.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
I guess we watch Obama age 10 years by late January

hhaha