some people track their cars morons, not just a waste of money for some. others would consider buying comp stuff a waste.
OREOSpeedwagon
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The other day I saw an orange station wagon with a full plastic body kit and a spoiler on top of it. I think it was damn near the funniest thing I'd ever seen.
Man, I was just about to make a post about this, friday and saturday there have been packs of street racers just crusing around the city. Naturally my buddy, myself and his 03' wrx were out picking fights 
They found out what was up really fast, but most of the kids up here do very little in the performance feild aside from cat backs and intakes
I have pics of friday night while we raced some kid in an evo, but none of them turned out (stupid pos Canon A40 :|)
They found out what was up really fast, but most of the kids up here do very little in the performance feild aside from cat backs and intakes I have pics of friday night while we raced some kid in an evo, but none of them turned out
(stupid pos Canon A40 :|)Bah!Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah.. Vee8 schmee8.
When I get my Z, I plan on eating ricers for lunch all day long.. and maybe some good ole Detroit potmetal, too. At least after I can sink some money into things that matter.
Only if you put a V8 in it.
I'd rather have a balanced, blueprinted, bored and stroked L28 with some nice internals and an 8,000RPM redline than a V8. I like engineering and finesse over brute force displacement.
Although, I suppose you could make a V8 rev to 8,000RPM if you really wanted to... $$$$$$$..
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah!Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah.. Vee8 schmee8.
When I get my Z, I plan on eating ricers for lunch all day long.. and maybe some good ole Detroit potmetal, too. At least after I can sink some money into things that matter.
Only if you put a V8 in it.
I'd rather have a balanced, blueprinted, bored and stroked L28 with some nice internals and an 8,000RPM redline than a V8. I like engineering and finesse over brute force displacement.
Although, I suppose you could make a V8 rev to 8,000RPM if you really wanted to... $$$$$$$..
Putting a V8 only makes a difference of about 125lbs if you were to use an LT1. The extra weight can easily be offset with suspension adjustment.
Besides, the V8s fit soooooooooooooooooooooo nice in there. You just have to watch the tranny clearance
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah!Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah.. Vee8 schmee8.
When I get my Z, I plan on eating ricers for lunch all day long.. and maybe some good ole Detroit potmetal, too. At least after I can sink some money into things that matter.
Only if you put a V8 in it.
I'd rather have a balanced, blueprinted, bored and stroked L28 with some nice internals and an 8,000RPM redline than a V8. I like engineering and finesse over brute force displacement.
Although, I suppose you could make a V8 rev to 8,000RPM if you really wanted to... $$$$$$$..
If you want a fast Z the V8 is the way to go. There is only so much you can do with an L28 before it starts to insane amounts of money for minimal gain. If your going to spend a bunch of money it would be better spent on a LT1/Lsi conversion. As said already the SB chevy doesn't add that much weight and can actually improve handling. Good site for info. The forums are down right now but it is worth checking back even if you just want to build up an L28.
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah!Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah.. Vee8 schmee8.
When I get my Z, I plan on eating ricers for lunch all day long.. and maybe some good ole Detroit potmetal, too. At least after I can sink some money into things that matter.
Only if you put a V8 in it.
I'd rather have a balanced, blueprinted, bored and stroked L28 with some nice internals and an 8,000RPM redline than a V8. I like engineering and finesse over brute force displacement.
Although, I suppose you could make a V8 rev to 8,000RPM if you really wanted to... $$$$$$$..
As for making a V8 rev to 8,000rpm, it can be done for somewhere around $3500 with a 351W in a Ford Bronco. My cousin has the bronco and built the engine for $3500 which included parts and labor, which he did much of the work on himself. We don't really know how fast it will spin up to, really need a better tach, but it hits the 6,000 rpm line like nothing and the engine just keeps spinning up, and does this rather quickly too. It also eats Ford 9inch rear ends, I think he is on his 4th right now, one brand new one and several used ones, the one he has right now is basically a locker.
Yes, it will eat ricers, nothing like the look on a guys face after he gets beat by an early 80's bronco.
Kadarin
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Originally posted by: TonyG
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah!Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah.. Vee8 schmee8.
When I get my Z, I plan on eating ricers for lunch all day long.. and maybe some good ole Detroit potmetal, too. At least after I can sink some money into things that matter.
Only if you put a V8 in it.
I'd rather have a balanced, blueprinted, bored and stroked L28 with some nice internals and an 8,000RPM redline than a V8. I like engineering and finesse over brute force displacement.
Although, I suppose you could make a V8 rev to 8,000RPM if you really wanted to... $$$$$$$..
As for making a V8 rev to 8,000rpm, it can be done for somewhere around $3500 with a 351W in a Ford Bronco. My cousin has the bronco and built the engine for $3500 which included parts and labor, which he did much of the work on himself. We don't really know how fast it will spin up to, really need a better tach, but it hits the 6,000 rpm line like nothing and the engine just keeps spinning up, and does this rather quickly too. It also eats Ford 9inch rear ends, I think he is on his 4th right now, one brand new one and several used ones, the one he has right now is basically a locker.
Yes, it will eat ricers, nothing like the look on a guys face after he gets beat by an early 80's bronco.
Hmm... If you're going to go through the (significant) trouble of balancing, blueprinting (I doubt a lot of people really know what that even means), boring, and stroking a motor, it won't make much difference in labor costs whether you start with some import 6cyl or a small block chevy. A destroked 400ci SBC can easily be made to do some pretty insane things.
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: TonyG
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah!Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Bah.. Vee8 schmee8.
When I get my Z, I plan on eating ricers for lunch all day long.. and maybe some good ole Detroit potmetal, too. At least after I can sink some money into things that matter.
Only if you put a V8 in it.
I'd rather have a balanced, blueprinted, bored and stroked L28 with some nice internals and an 8,000RPM redline than a V8. I like engineering and finesse over brute force displacement.
Although, I suppose you could make a V8 rev to 8,000RPM if you really wanted to... $$$$$$$..
As for making a V8 rev to 8,000rpm, it can be done for somewhere around $3500 with a 351W in a Ford Bronco. My cousin has the bronco and built the engine for $3500 which included parts and labor, which he did much of the work on himself. We don't really know how fast it will spin up to, really need a better tach, but it hits the 6,000 rpm line like nothing and the engine just keeps spinning up, and does this rather quickly too. It also eats Ford 9inch rear ends, I think he is on his 4th right now, one brand new one and several used ones, the one he has right now is basically a locker.
Yes, it will eat ricers, nothing like the look on a guys face after he gets beat by an early 80's bronco.
Hmm... If you're going to go through the (significant) trouble of balancing, blueprinting (I doubt a lot of people really know what that even means), boring, and stroking a motor, it won't make much difference in labor costs whether you start with some import 6cyl or a small block chevy. A destroked 400ci SBC can easily be made to do some pretty insane things.
The L28 is a funny thing. Its a great engine. Even without the cost of balancing (machining to equalize bob weights and counterweghting the crankshaft to reduce harmonic losses and friction) and Blueprinting (making sure the engine parts are within spec) the cost of the head (P90) work to make it a performance engine usually exceeds $2000 and you haven't even bored it out and put high grade pistons and rings in among a bunch of other things. After you complete all that you have an engine on par with an LT1 with a couple bolt ons. The L28 simply hits a wall and to get more power you have to go to a different engine not to mention when you get into the L28 having that much power it is hardly streetable.
people don't buy japanese cars because they are fast. they buy them because they they are efficient, they are conservative (physically and mechanically), and are well built. The way people personalize these packages is impressive to me. But certainly, they aren't gonna keep up to a GT.
Reminds me of a time when a dude on a harley made a comment about my honda. I simply replied, do you want to race?
Reminds me of a time when a dude on a harley made a comment about my honda. I simply replied, do you want to race?
If they buy them because they're physically conservative, why do they put the most outlandish looking mods on them? I call bs. They buy them because it's the trendy thing for kids to do. I guarantee you people whose reasons for buying Japanese cars are workmanship, conservativeness, and fuel efficiency are NOT the type to put a 6-foot wing on the trunk and a Folgers can on the muffler.
uhuh, ok. and what about the idiots that waste their time and money on their computers. oooooooooo look at ME i have a water cooled, overclocked processor that loads word 3.5 seconds faster than your dell!!!!!
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Zenmervolt
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I love that about the Mark VIII. People just don't expect a Lincoln to have almost 300 hp. Someday I'd love to find a way (and find the money) to put an Eaton M90 under the hood to give the girl a bit more oomph but it's not as though it's always easy to keep the rear tyres hooked up now.
ZV
ZV
HAHAH! I will cook rice and eat detroit when I upgrade from my current slk230 to a slk32 AMG!!!!
Slacker
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We can get you all the rice you want, and we can probably figure out a way for you to eat Detroit, but there is no way in hell we're giving up an slk32 AMG.
To the hostages I say duck and cover, to the hijackers I say kiss your ass goodbye, we're coming in shooting!:|
To the hostages I say duck and cover, to the hijackers I say kiss your ass goodbye, we're coming in shooting!:|
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