so there's an asian guy in the NBA that's not 8 ft tall?

[Miramonti]

As many predicted Melo and Stat put the brakes on Linsanity. They need to go back to the starting lineup they have during the winning streak. The team defense is worse when these two are on the floor.

That sums it up pretty well. The lanes are clogged, no spacing, and players aren't moving as well without the ball. Except for Novak, everyone is imploding to typical knicks basketball. Even Lin has lost an edge in his confidence to give the team what it needs throughout the game.

Baron with A'mare & Melo

Lin with 2nd unit + Tyson

wonder how long it will take D'antoni to figure out this is the best mix

Lin + A'mare + Melo does not and will not work imo

Yeah, no rest for Tyson. 😛 I'd love to go back to old school Linball too...it didn't matter who was cold, they still got it done.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

It's nuts but Melo really does seem to be a team killer. Not sure what it is.

He should of looked across the floor at Dirk and see how it's done.

 

[HendrixFan]

Look at the schedule fellas. The Knicks run was during a stretch of mainly poor teams and home games. Their struggles have come with a run against better competition and road games.

In the 4 games they lost of the last 5 played, all four were road games against teams with wining records. During their 8 of 9 streak they had all of two wins against teams with winning records, with six of the games coming at home.

Also, during this stretch of 5 games check the +/- stats for BDiddy against Lin. It reveals something you should be able to readily pick up watching the games.

 

[QueBert]

Look at the schedule fellas. The Knicks run was during a stretch of mainly poor teams and home games. Their struggles have come with a run against better competition and road games.

In the 4 games they lost of the last 5 played, all four were road games against teams with wining records. During their 8 of 9 streak they had all of two wins against teams with winning records, with six of the games coming at home.

Also, during this stretch of 5 games check the +/- stats for BDiddy against Lin. It reveals something you should be able to readily pick up watching the games.

this, I mean beating below average teams at home isn't exactly an OMGWTFBBQSAUCE! feat. But it adds to the hooplah about how Lin saved the team from certain doom. I find it laughable that people are saying they're losing now because Melo's back. The dude's an all star player, he might not be playing @ 100% right now. But he's a better player than Lin, and that shouldn't even be debatable. Lin's a really good player who helped them beat whatever teams at home, now they're losing to better teams on the road. Not sure how anyone can think if Melo hadn't came back they'd still be on a streak lol. The best was after 4 effing Lin games all the talk of "oh wow, when Melo comes back I wonder how he's going to fit into the team?"

 

[HendrixFan]

Look at standings and see the home versus away records across the league. Only the very elite teams have reasonably good records on the road, and even the poor teams manage winning records at home.

I think Lin can adjust to playing with elite caliber players, and if he can't then he will have written himself off any starting lineup. As a PG if you can't take advantage of having guys like Melo and STAT, then you aren't legit.

 

[Udgnim]

Also, during this stretch of 5 games check the +/- stats for BDiddy against Lin. It reveals something you should be able to readily pick up watching the games.

Knicks second unit plays better than the first

 

[HendrixFan]

Knicks second unit plays better than the first

Check the +/- for the rest of the bench during that stretch. It isn't a perfect stat, but it is pretty good. Bear in mind that all five starters are rarely sitting at the same time (though Tibs is doing that with the Bulls for some reason tonight).

 

[Udgnim]

Check the +/- for the rest of the bench during that stretch. It isn't a perfect stat, but it is pretty good. Bear in mind that all five starters are rarely sitting at the same time (though Tibs is doing that with the Bulls for some reason tonight).

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22011&split=9&team=Knicks

surprised that Chandler has a negative +/-

Novak is #1 for the Knicks over less than half the minutes of most starters

Melo and A'mare have negative +/-

Mike Bibby sucks

D'antoni needs to ride Novak to the promised land

 

[Udgnim]

linsanity is officially dead

Lin has a great game but Knicks still lose because their defense is trash with Melo + A'mare on the floor and Chandler hurt

 

[Svnla]

Knicks vs. Bulls on ESPN right now. Knicks is ahead by 4 (33-29) 2nd quarter.

 

[Eug]

Lin had a decent game*, but it was not enough to lift the Knicks to a win. Now they're tied for that last playoff spot.

*15 points (on 11 shots), 8 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers

Anthony took 21 shots, for 21 points. He didn't look so great out there today.

 

[slayer202]

Melo isn't a winner*. End of story

*college doesn't count



and has no one posted the Gerald Green dunk from a couple nights ago? Sickest dunk in a longggg time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nOzo4pHTZ-M

check out the Houston bench

 

[Ns1]

Melo isn't a winner*. End of story

*college doesn't count



and has no one posted the Gerald Green dunk from a couple nights ago? Sickest dunk in a longggg time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nOzo4pHTZ-M

check out the Houston bench

lol @ comments

Heres some steps for you to learn to do this dunk

Step 1:

Step 2: Repeat step 1

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[mshan]

"For the past 10 games, the Knicks have been demonstrably worse when Anthony plays. With Anthony on the court, the Knicks are scoring at a rate of 97.7 points per 100 possessions. When he is on the bench, that rating soars to 109.8.

The contrast is just as sharp on defense: the Knicks give up 107.1 points per 100 possessions with Anthony on the court, 95.1 with Anthony on the bench. His personal differential, a minus-9.4 rating, is the worst on the team in that 10-game stretch.

Nor is Anthony fulfilling his presumed role as a clutch performer. He misfired repeatedly down the stretch in Chicago, adding to a string of fourth-quarter failures this season. He intentionally fouled Kyle Korver and sent him to the line on a key possession in the final minute, with the Knicks down by 4, after the players had been instructed to simply play defense."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/sports/basketball/anthonys-return-has-hurt-the-knicks.html

Could only hope (know it's not going to happen) that some team is willing to take on Melo's contract so we can dump him right now.

 

[QueBert]

Melo's an all star player, he's having a bad streak. But he's still an all star player and people seem to be forgetting that. He'll rebound back without question. Knicks hopefully aren't dumb enough to try and trade him.

 

[mshan]

That article says Melo is intentionally breaking plays again and that he is demanding 20 shots per game.

Sounds like he is absolute poison in the locker room, too.

 

[HendrixFan]

That article says Melo is intentionally breaking plays again and that he is demanding 20 shots per game.

Sounds like he is absolute poison in the locker room, too.

There is no reason he shouldn't be getting 20 shots per game. He is one of the three best scorers in the league and is virtually unguardable.

 

[Sephire]

It will be interesting what the stats are when Lin was the "Man" then when Carmelo comes back.

 

[Phokus]

There is no reason he shouldn't be getting 20 shots per game. He is one of the three best scorers in the league and is virtually unguardable.

Not now, he isn't.

I think, at this point, the Knick's slide can be totally attributed to Melo destroying the locker room and D'antoni checking out mentally... some pretty shocking stuff:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/s...has-hurt-the-knicks.html?src=tp&smid=fb-share

The causes are varied, and Anthony is not solely to blame. But multiple people with ties to the team cite a growing divide between Anthony and his teammates that is threatening to derail the season.

Anthony is breaking plays and demanding the ball in isolation, then snapping at teammates when they fail to get it to him. It happened late Monday, when Anthony called for the ball in the post, then smacked his hands in anger after Landry Fields went elsewhere. More often, Anthony saves the criticism for more private moments, on the bench or in the locker room.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...new-york-knicks-locker-room-according-sources

When Anthony first returned -- and it still appears to be the case -- Lin would bring the ball up court and try to run D'Antoni's system. When Anthony would abandon the offense, Lin would not pass him the ball, which irritated Anthony, sources said. So when Lin tried to talk to Anthony on the court, Anthony would turn his back to the point guard and tune him out. The two never had heated exchanges, though, and the players tried to come to a compromise, agreeing to run D'Antoni's system while also mixing in post-ups for Anthony.

On top of that, Baron Davis, who just returned from a back injury, is unhappy with his limited role as Lin's backup. Davis, averaging just 17 minutes a game, has already spoken to D'Antoni about giving him more playing time, according to the sources. While Lin wants to run D'Antoni's system, Davis is more in line with running the offense through Anthony and Stoudemire, the sources said.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knic...h_antoni_YjNqpRkBHjhTuavBXv5IhJ#ixzz1p4I7p4ze

Carmelo Anthony’s discontent with the Knicks organization became so severe after Monday night’s loss to the Bulls, he told a confidant he preferred to be traded before tomorrow’s trade deadline, The Post has learned.

According to a person familiar with his thinking, Anthony’s disillusionment stems most from a belief Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni and interim GM Glen Grunwald do not trust him. He is surprised that after all the Knicks gave up to trade for him, he has not been asked for more input on personnel decisions, as Deron Williams has with the Nets.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/14169/stats-nyk-scoring-defending-better-wout-melo

Since Anthony returned on Feb. 20, the Knicks are averaging 109.8 points per 100 possessions with Anthony off the floor and just 97.6 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor.

Even worse, they are allowing 107.1 points per 100 possessions with Anthony on the floor and just 95.1 points per 100 with him off the floor.

They're also shooting 5.6 percent better with Anthony off the floor. With Anthony on the floor, opponents are shooting 4.5 percent higher. Yikes.

Damning numbers, to be sure. One thing to remember: the Knicks' second unit has played well at times since Anthony's return, so that's one factor in the statistical splits.

 

[Red Storm]

I'm not surprised at all. Carmelo Anthony is a phenomenal scoring machine, but he's downright terrible at defense and he does not make his team mates better. On top of that, you have Amare who is possibly the worst defensive PF in the league (that gets minutes). And then to cap it off they're being coached by D'antoni, who still hasn't learned that defense wins championships (the "7 seconds or less" Phoenix Suns are perfect proof of this).

 

[slayer202]

Source: Anthony Tells Friend He Wants Trade

Mar 14, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

Carmelo Anthony has told a confidant that he prefers a trade from the Knicks before the deadline, according to a source.
Anthony reportedly believes Mike D'Antoni and Glen Grunwald do not trust him. He is surprised that his opinion hasn't been sought more on personnel moves.
“The organization makes believe his opinions don’t matter,’’ the source said.

A source said Anthony and D’Antoni spoke in an attempt to reconcile their differences and made progress. Anthony will not make a formal trade request.

Anthony's agent Leon Rose refutes the report to Frank Isola of the New York Daily News.
"Total nonsense," Rose tells Daily News. "It's laughable."

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219716/Source_Anthony_Tells_Friend_He_Wants_Trade#ixzz1p6GHlZlS
​

 

[Red Storm]

I dunno if I believe he actually said that, but I will say this. You aren't going to win a championship if Carmelo is your best player.

 

[BudAshes]

I'm not surprised at all. Carmelo Anthony is a phenomenal scoring machine, but he's downright terrible at defense and he does not make his team mates better. On top of that, you have Amare who is possibly the worst defensive PF in the league (that gets minutes). And then to cap it off they're being coached by D'antoni, who still hasn't learned that defense wins championships (the "7 seconds or less" Phoenix Suns are perfect proof of this).

The suns might have won a couple if they hadn't gotten robbed by amare's injury one year and a crazy duncan 3 the next. I think they could have easily won with just a break or 2.

 

[slayer202]

D'Antoni is gone

 

[Phokus]

D'Antoni is gone

Wow.