Built my current A64 system about a year ago which has a A64 3000+, 1gb DDR, 160gb HD, Asus A8V deluxe and an EVGA 6800gt. I don't keep up with hardware except when building new systems. Did I hear there are going to be no more AGP cards made? If so that sucks. Are memory speeds continually increasing in speed or will my 1gb ram be ok for a couple years?
So there are no more AGP cards being made?
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But will the ram speeds be good in a couple years. For example will I be able to take my two 512 sticks out in 2 years and use them in a new m/b or will they be too old. I have corsair valuram I believe now but can't remember the PC of it.
Eureka
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Um, 1GB is still fine for now, but 2GB is starting to become more and more required.
AGP is dying out... there are still a few AGP being made, and we might see this generation of cards (ATi's x1x00 and nVidia's 7x00) in AGP, but I don't think we're going to get any more than that.
Norm
AGP is dying out... there are still a few AGP being made, and we might see this generation of cards (ATi's x1x00 and nVidia's 7x00) in AGP, but I don't think we're going to get any more than that.
Norm
Keysplayr
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Two years is like 4 lifetimes in the computer world. Intel has already made the move, or at least started to make the move, to DDR2 DIMMS, and I'm sure AMD is coming out with their own DDR2 boards as well. But 2 years from now? Sheesh, they could have DDR4 or something completely different by then.
FYI, there are a multitude of motherboards right now that you can use with your current RAM and have a PCI-e slot. Or Two! Any 939 AMD based mobo will use it.
Since you are already using one of the fastest AGP cards already, the only thing I think you can upgrade to would be like an X850XTPE or like that. But not worth the performance increase to change. You just may have to get yourself a new mobo, which can be had pretty cheaply these days, so you can upgrade your graphics board to a PCI-e card.
FYI, there are a multitude of motherboards right now that you can use with your current RAM and have a PCI-e slot. Or Two! Any 939 AMD based mobo will use it.
Since you are already using one of the fastest AGP cards already, the only thing I think you can upgrade to would be like an X850XTPE or like that. But not worth the performance increase to change. You just may have to get yourself a new mobo, which can be had pretty cheaply these days, so you can upgrade your graphics board to a PCI-e card.
Except that isn't what was said. You need to learn to speak PR- a very clever language it is. Given what was stated(where you likely understood it to mean no 7800GSs) I was lead to believe that the 7800GS will be launching in the not too distant future in AGP.
Can you provide a link to a game other than Battlefield2 that benefits from more than 1GB RAM?
I'm asking, as I'm unaware of any.
i sure hope this turns out to be true:
http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=2058
I asked for links, because I want to see proof.
For example:
FEAR
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/fear_cpu_performance/page6.asp
Firing Squad says 1 vs 2GB of RAM is irrelevant in FEAR. Can you provide links that show 2GB as preferable for those games?
It runs smoother on 2gb for FEAR it becomes less choppy at some parts but even with one gig its only an occasionaly stutter. 2 gigs is probably uneeded it prolly only exceeds a gig by a little but thats what makes it jump from time to time. And im not aware of any other game in bfg's list though besides fear.
Zenoth
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Only Battlefield 2 benefits from 2 GB ... and that's not because the game has a very complex engine, but mainly because it's simply a system resources hog due to the way it was coded.
I mean, compare BF 2's engine to say ... Source engine. Play BF 2 and Half-Life 2 for one hour, and tell me which one lets you come back to the Desktop without your HDD working like hell.
That game (BF 2) stutters even on my system. It's always happening at just when the map loading is completed, and I enter the game.
It stutters like no tommorow for at least two or three minutes, and it eventually stops to let super-smooth gameplay, and frame rate never drops too low. No lag either.
And when I come back to the Desktop after playing it for say ... 30 minutes, I immediately open the Task Manager, and look at BF 2's .exe and see how much RAM it takes. Usually it takes about 860 MB, and lowers itself to eventually terminate itself (the process). While the .exe is preparing to terminate, the HDD works to a point where my Desktop reacts to everything extremely slowly.
Even F.E.A.R. is much smoother than that, and never slaugther my Desktop "performance" like that when I quit it. Same goes with H-L ² or Doom 3 or UT 2004. Or any other games I own.
I mean, compare BF 2's engine to say ... Source engine. Play BF 2 and Half-Life 2 for one hour, and tell me which one lets you come back to the Desktop without your HDD working like hell.
That game (BF 2) stutters even on my system. It's always happening at just when the map loading is completed, and I enter the game.
It stutters like no tommorow for at least two or three minutes, and it eventually stops to let super-smooth gameplay, and frame rate never drops too low. No lag either.
And when I come back to the Desktop after playing it for say ... 30 minutes, I immediately open the Task Manager, and look at BF 2's .exe and see how much RAM it takes. Usually it takes about 860 MB, and lowers itself to eventually terminate itself (the process). While the .exe is preparing to terminate, the HDD works to a point where my Desktop reacts to everything extremely slowly.
Even F.E.A.R. is much smoother than that, and never slaugther my Desktop "performance" like that when I quit it. Same goes with H-L ² or Doom 3 or UT 2004. Or any other games I own.
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edplayer
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i really think its absurd that neither nvidia or ATI wants to cash in on the huge agp market right now. If either made an AGP product of their top end it would be completely unrivaled for this large segment of users.
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