So the WiiU's cpu is a 1.25 Ghz tri-core PowerPC 750...

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Zodiark1593

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frozentundra123456 said:
What's wrong with fun for kids and family? Not everyone is a hard core PC gamer.

The problem I see is that they hit the kids/family/casual party game market with the original Wii at a lower price than their competitors. I am not sure they can be successful with that strategy again at a higher price point. But you have to admit, the original Wii was a big success for several years despite being technically far inferior to the other consoles.
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Aww hell, what's wrong with both loving hardcore games, and the more lighthearted games. ;)

Anyway, the cpu seems to be an ok step up. Just hope it doesn't turn out like the ARM11 cores in the 3DS, and keel over when mild particle effects are used.
 
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in the teardown pictures it only has this tiny aluminum heatsink and i'm not sure if it even used a fan. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6465/nintendo-wii-u-teardown
in fact the gpu is massive compared to the cpu.
overall i'm not that impressed with the new generation wii. considering nintendo's history, it'll probably just be a -little- more powerful than old gen xbox360 or ps3.
 
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Acanthus said:
I will buy one the day a new mario kart game comes out.

I'm 30.
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+1 Can't wait to see the new Mario Kart game for this console, gonna be sick.

Granted it wouldn't sway me to buy the new console, but can't wait to play it on someone else's.

I personally look forward to the next Xbox generation console.
 
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A5 said:
Ha. The Tegra 3 at 1080p will look terrible - despite Nvidia's marketing, it can't put out 360/PS3 quality at HD resolutions.
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360 and PS3 can't put out quality at HD resolutions either, it didn't stop them from being highly successful.
 
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Chiropteran said:
360 and PS3 can't put out quality at HD resolutions either, it didn't stop them from being highly successful.
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tegra 3 GPU is to slow, even compared to what Apple is using... the Xbox 360 GPU is 5-10 years ahead.
 
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xx0xx said:
No more Nintendo for me. They lost me after the N64.
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Oh hey, 1996!

Chiropteran said:
360 and PS3 can't put out quality at HD resolutions either, it didn't stop them from being highly successful.
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They were also next-gen for their time. Well...current-gen for their time...You know what I mean. When the next MS/Sony consoles are released, the Wii-U will still be able to put out at least what the PS3/360 could, but it likely won't match the new, "next-gen" consoles. And in that regard, they will likely benefit in the same way the PS3 and 360 did.
 
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Acanthus said:
I will buy one the day a new mario kart game comes out.

I'm 30.
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Just today I bought Mario Kart for the Wii (not the WiiU) for my kids for xmas. They love playing the version that came out for the Game Cube.

Great thing about kids is they have low expectations for entertainment stuff.

I imagine the WiiU will sell well to young families who don't already own a Wii.
 
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SlowSpyder said:
Off topic alert: If you have a Wii or Gamecube, you are doing yourself a huge disservice if you haven't yet played Eternal Darkness. :)
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Depends on what type of gamer you are. I've played it through exactly once and did not quite understand the hype. I've no interested in solving "puzzles" and such in games. If I play it's for distraction and FPS Multiplier rule there. If I want an intellectual challenge, read a good (scientific) book, work on your Open Source Project(s) and so forth.
 
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ChronoReverse said:
As mentioned already, if this is a triple core 750 at 1.25GHz, that's actually pretty beefy. More than I had anticipated with all the acclaims of "inadequate CPU power" going around. Gaming is integer driven with lots of decisions isn't it? An out of order design with stronger integer than FP seems to be a wise design.
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The clock speed is just too low, performance is still going to be in the same ballpark as Atom/Brazos cores. I'm guessing IPC is around Pentium M level at best. That said, the 360 cpu has IPC about on par with Atom, it's just at a high clock speed.
 
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Pretty much lols by Mac owners who collect vintage Macs are likely saying G3! Performance wise this 750 isn't bad but much weaker than the G5 core and would say that it might match a older Powermac G4 to maybe a very low end G5 machine but that is all. Nintendo is being cheap and there has already been plenty of complaints from developers about this issue.
 
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It is interesting that they went with a core with such terrible SIMD performance. The 360 core has pretty beefy vector units, and the PS3 obviously has its SPUs. Are Nintendo expecting developers to use GPGPU more for their highly parallel floating-point algorithms?
 
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NTMBK said:
It is interesting that they went with a core with such terrible SIMD performance. The 360 core has pretty beefy vector units, and the PS3 obviously has its SPUs. Are Nintendo expecting developers to use GPGPU more for their highly parallel floating-point algorithms?
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That may explain their choice of going with AMD's GCN for the gpu. I hope they do so that developers make use of it for other platforms. Plus GPGPU just kills the performance on Nvidia Kepler.
 
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nforce4max said:
Pretty much lols by Mac owners who collect vintage Macs are likely saying G3! Performance wise this 750 isn't bad but much weaker than the G5 core and would say that it might match a older Powermac G4 to maybe a very low end G5 machine but that is all. Nintendo is being cheap and there has already been plenty of complaints from developers about this issue.
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I don't think your comprehension of what you just said is any greater than mine is.
 
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Idontcare said:
Just today I bought Mario Kart for the Wii (not the WiiU) for my kids for xmas. They love playing the version that came out for the Game Cube.

Great thing about kids is they have low expectations for entertainment stuff.

I imagine the WiiU will sell well to young families who don't already own a Wii.
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Yes, games are supposed to be fun, not look great. The great thing about the Wii is that it focused on having fun, particularly simple, easy to pick up and down multiplayer games.

The graphics of the Wii are pretty terrible (compared to modern games), but it is still a blast. I am skeptical about the new Wii tablet controller thing, but if they still focus on making casual games groups of people can easily play it will be successful, because families will buy it, and young(er) adults will buy it for parties, etc. Just like the Wii.
 
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nforce4max said:
That may explain their choice of going with AMD's GCN for the gpu. I hope they do so that developers make use of it for other platforms. Plus GPGPU just kills the performance on Nvidia Kepler.
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GCN? I thought it was VLIW5, maybe even something based on the HD4000 series
 
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Nintendo ... seriously dude? A PowerPC 750?

Christ ... does anyone know the clock-for-clock difference between an IBM PowerPC 750 core and a Power5/5+ core?
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Here are some Povray benchmarks I've done using the benchmark scene file (Povray 3.6)

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Core i5 2400S (2.5 GHz):      235.18 pps ; 94.07 pps/GHz
Celeron 220 (1.2 GHz):         81.15 pps ; 67.62 pps/GHz
Athlon II x4 (2.8 GHz):       179.82 pps ; 64.22 pps/GHz
PowerPC 750 (700 MHz):         20.47 pps ; 29.25 pps/GHz
Pentium !!! (450 MHz):          2.43 pps ; 27.62 pps/GHz
Exynos 4210 (1.2 GHz):         29.90 pps ; 24.91 pps/GHz (-mfloat-abi=hard)
Pentium 4m (1.5 GHz):          36.24 pps ; 24.16 pps/GHz
Exynos 4210 (1.2 GHz):         21.99 pps ; 18.32 pps/GHz (-mfloat-abi=softfp)
Atom N270 (1.6 GHz):           28.96 pps ; 18.10 pps/GHz
OMAP 3621 (1.2 GHz):            6.76 pps ; 5.63 pps/GHz
MSM 7227(0.6 GHz):              0.70 pps ; 1.17 pps/GHz
 
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I'm assuming that was a 750CXe, in which case the benchmark really isn't indicative of what to expect from the Nintendo tri-core as the architecture has lived a lifetime since the 750CXe was hot sauce.
 
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