so the lakers give a 4 yr $58M contract to an unproven player coming off knee surgery

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JC86

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If Bynum develops into the 20/10 player that everyone thinks he can be, this deal is a steal. Bynum took less than the max and the Lakers took a calculated risk that he has recovered fully. Even if Bynum only averages 13/8 this season, there will be 29 other teams lining up to offer him a contract that will match or exceed what the Lakers just gave him. Let's face it, you can't teach size and Bynum has shown the skill to go along with it.
 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: JC86
If Bynum develops into the 20/10 player that everyone thinks he can be, this deal is a steal. Bynum took less than the max and the Lakers took a calculated risk that he has recovered fully. Even if Bynum only averages 13/8 this season, there will be 29 other teams lining up to offer him a contract that will match or exceed what the Lakers just gave him. Let's face it, you can't teach size and Bynum has shown the skill to go along with it.

yup exactly.
I fear for the other teams on what a healthy Laker team can do :Q *so pumped!!!*
 
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is Isaiah running the Lakers now? Did they grab Starbury? Are they bringing Bill Walton out of retirement? Digging up Chamberlain?

I love threads like this... the possibilities are endless when the OP provides NO information. :D

amazing when everyone else knows exactly who i'm referring to.

and if ya don't, www.espn.com will tell you everything you need to know.
 

trmiv

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It was an excellent deal from the Lakers standpoint. They are only locked into three years, so if his knee acts up again they don't have to take the 4th year, instantly saving that money. Also the average yearly salary of the deal is $14.35 million, when the max salary is $17 million. Had they waited until the offseason and Bynum proved that he was healthy and back to form they would have had to cough up the $17 million per. So over the life of the deal they saved themselves $10 million by inking him now, more like $20 million when you take the luxury tax into consideration. As a Laker fan I'm very happy with it.
 
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Originally posted by: trmiv
It was an excellent deal from the Lakers standpoint. They are only locked into three years, so if his knee acts up again they don't have to take the 4th year, instantly saving that money. Also the average yearly salary of the deal is $14.35 million, when the max salary is $17 million. Had they waited until the offseason and Bynum proved that he was healthy and back to form they would have had to cough up the $17 million per. So over the life of the deal they saved themselves $10 million by inking him now, more like $20 million when you take the luxury tax into consideration. As a Laker fan I'm very happy with it.

i'm generally not happy with the direction where pro sports is always headed, constantly trying to outdo each other with huge contracts.

cost to go to an MLB game is $50 for nosebleeds, where they used to be $20.
nBA? $100 is the minimum.
lets not even talk about concessions. $8 for a beer? wtf?

they are pricing themselves out of reach for the casual fan and i am :disgust:
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: trmiv
It was an excellent deal from the Lakers standpoint. They are only locked into three years, so if his knee acts up again they don't have to take the 4th year, instantly saving that money. Also the average yearly salary of the deal is $14.35 million, when the max salary is $17 million. Had they waited until the offseason and Bynum proved that he was healthy and back to form they would have had to cough up the $17 million per. So over the life of the deal they saved themselves $10 million by inking him now, more like $20 million when you take the luxury tax into consideration. As a Laker fan I'm very happy with it.

i'm generally not happy with the direction where pro sports is always headed, constantly trying to outdo each other with huge contracts.

cost to go to an MLB game is $50 for nosebleeds, where they used to be $20.
nBA? $100 is the minimum.
lets not even talk about concessions. $8 for a beer? wtf?

they are pricing themselves out of reach for the casual fan and i am :disgust:

wtf are you talking about?

i went to a Wizards game last year and paid $10 for a ticket.

i went to an orioles game last year and paid like $7.50 for a ticket.
 
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: trmiv
It was an excellent deal from the Lakers standpoint. They are only locked into three years, so if his knee acts up again they don't have to take the 4th year, instantly saving that money. Also the average yearly salary of the deal is $14.35 million, when the max salary is $17 million. Had they waited until the offseason and Bynum proved that he was healthy and back to form they would have had to cough up the $17 million per. So over the life of the deal they saved themselves $10 million by inking him now, more like $20 million when you take the luxury tax into consideration. As a Laker fan I'm very happy with it.

i'm generally not happy with the direction where pro sports is always headed, constantly trying to outdo each other with huge contracts.

cost to go to an MLB game is $50 for nosebleeds, where they used to be $20.
nBA? $100 is the minimum.
lets not even talk about concessions. $8 for a beer? wtf?

they are pricing themselves out of reach for the casual fan and i am :disgust:

wtf are you talking about?

i went to a Wizards game last year and paid $10 for a ticket.

i went to an orioles game last year and paid like $7.50 for a ticket.

well, you went to the shithole that is baltimore, to watch a shit team like the orioles play.

i'm talking about the yankees.
and the knicks :eek:
 
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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
sigh... more evidence of overpaying overrated players.

Before he was injured last year, he showed that he could score/rebound/block and defend with the best of them. This year, he added a mid-range game. I think most will agree that the boy can easily go for 20 points/10 boards a night.
 
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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
sigh... more evidence of overpaying overrated players.

Before he was injured last year, he showed that he could score/rebound/block and defend with the best of them. This year, he added a mid-range game. I think most will agree that the boy can easily go for 20 points/10 boards a night.

yeah, he did that for like what, 2 months?
that's what i mean by unproven. now add a knee injury and it's not guaranteed anymore.
he could be the next kwame or darko.
 

neegotiator

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
sigh... more evidence of overpaying overrated players.

Before he was injured last year, he showed that he could score/rebound/block and defend with the best of them. This year, he added a mid-range game. I think most will agree that the boy can easily go for 20 points/10 boards a night.

yeah, he did that for like what, 2 months?
that's what i mean by unproven. now add a knee injury and it's not guaranteed anymore.
he could be the next kwame or darko.

nowhere near kwame or darko in terms of fail, but I don't think he's worth $58M over 4 years. luckily the last year at $16M is a team option. I see him more as a $8-10M/yr guy. but at same time, no other big centers who can board/block and have decent offensive game like him are available now, and frankly after Lakers got bullied in finals last yr they really do need bynum.
 

trmiv

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
sigh... more evidence of overpaying overrated players.

Before he was injured last year, he showed that he could score/rebound/block and defend with the best of them. This year, he added a mid-range game. I think most will agree that the boy can easily go for 20 points/10 boards a night.

yeah, he did that for like what, 2 months?
that's what i mean by unproven. now add a knee injury and it's not guaranteed anymore.
he could be the next kwame or darko.

That's the risk they take, which they limited by only locking into a three year deal and having a team option 4th. They could have waited until the offseason for him to be a restricted free agent. Provided that he stays healthy this season and picks up where he left off last season and continues to improve, he would get signed to a max offer sheet from someone which the Lakers would be forced to match. That would be a 5 or 6 year deal at $17 million per. Legit seven footers who can score, swat and board are a rarity in the NBA now. So if he does work out they get him on a 4 year deal at a lesser salary, win for them. If his knee acts up again, they limit their exposure by only being committed to three years. Deciding on things like this are all about risk assessment, and they obviously felt this was a risk they were willing to make. The Lakers don't make many mistakes when it comes to personnel (with Luke Walton being their one GLARING mistake).
 
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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
sigh... more evidence of overpaying overrated players.

Before he was injured last year, he showed that he could score/rebound/block and defend with the best of them. This year, he added a mid-range game. I think most will agree that the boy can easily go for 20 points/10 boards a night.

yeah, he did that for like what, 2 months?
that's what i mean by unproven. now add a knee injury and it's not guaranteed anymore.
he could be the next kwame or darko.

He looks like he has recovered well. The reason why I don't think he is unproven per se is because he has shown what he could do, even if it was shown is small doses. Greg Oden on the other hand...
 

neegotiator

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
rockets are as deep and talented as the lakers

Thank you for some comic relief!

much as I love my rockets, I can't say we're as deep as lakers, but we can definitely give them a run for their money. hoping that battier can come back in time for 11/9 matchup, if we can have battier stick on kobe majority of time giving artest more energy to focus on scoring off bench, I like our chances.
 

Perknose

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I like how everyone in this thread completely discounts the Celtics.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: Perknose
I like how everyone in this thread completely discounts the Celtics.
celts will repeat, it'll be a good year in bostontown.
 

KingGheedora

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Originally posted by: hungfarover
As a blazer fan, I can say at this point I'd rather have Bynum than Odom. I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Odom will be out of the NBA within 3 years.

Good big men are hard to find. IMO this is a pretty good signing.

Do you mean Oden or Odom?