So the Chinese are the most materialist culture....

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ponyo

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They just opened a Chanel outlet near Chicago. Haven't been there, but I'd assume they sell bags.

And, as I stated, I did an eBay search and his $6,500 bag was around $2,300 buy it now. Assuming that is in season and real (which is dubious at best, when dealing with eBay), in a year or two, it won't be worth nearly that.

That's 100% fake. If that Chanel bag is really $6,500 bag, there's no way that $2,300 bag is real. In a year or two, it will never drop down to $2,300. I guarantee it.
 

steppinthrax

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I bought a coach bag for my wife 8 years ago. I originally bought it from the Coach Store..... Later I found the same back online (with a wallet) for roughly the same price. I bought it online. When I got the bag. It looked a little weird.... It was roughly the same, but it looked a little different. I took it into coach and the ladies looked at it and pretty much told it it was a fake and pointed out all the little things wrong with it!!!! However, one of them told me that it's actually pretty good considering and some people would just keep it. I got my money back from the online retailer.
 

steppinthrax

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That's 100% fake. If that Chanel bag is really $6,500 bag, there's no way that $2,300 bag is real. In a year or two, it will never drop down to $2,300. I guarantee it.

Can you explain to me why a handbag is worth $6,500 or even $2,300....
 

smackababy

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I heard a lot of people will settle for fakes if they are good fakes. Some of they are so well made that you can't tell the diff....

A lot of people do settle for fakes or replicas. And, it is a plague, IMO. The availability, low price, and increasing quality of fakes is hurting the shoe market, for sure. I can't imagine it is helping the handbag market much either. With limited releases of sneakers, fakes plague eBay. And a lot of them are either hard to tell in the pictures, or pictures of legit shoes but fakes are sent. EBay is pretty good about refunding you if you claim they are fakes (which leads people to buy fakes, then buy real shoes, and then return the fakes and get their money back...), but it is still garbage. People are buying the $80 fakes and selling them for the $300-400 real shoes command and some buying them don't know the difference.

Can you explain to me why a handbag is worth $6,500 or even $2,300....

Designed by a designer of note, quality materials used, limited run and styling, luxury brand.
 

Dari

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That's 100% fake. If that Chanel bag is really $6,500 bag, there's no way that $2,300 bag is real. In a year or two, it will never drop down to $2,300. I guarantee it.

This is true. New year, new design. The older design is never made again. I found out when I tried to buy my wife a skirt I bought for my ex. It was no longer available and never would be. Upsetting.
 

smackababy

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That's 100% fake. If that Chanel bag is really $6,500 bag, there's no way that $2,300 bag is real. In a year or two, it will never drop down to $2,300. I guarantee it.

I find that incredibly hard to believe. The only reason I couldn't buy a two year old Chanel bag for 1/4 of the price is because 99% of people who bought it at $6,500 simply leave it in their closet once it gets out of season. There is no market for out of season items among people who can afford that kind of stuff.
 

steppinthrax

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Another thing is if a fake is sooo good, how can you legitimately tell the real from the fake......

I.E. there are synthetic diamonds now that are soooooo much like the real thing that most pawn shops can't tell the difff...
 

smackababy

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Another thing is if a fake is sooo good, how can you legitimately tell the real from the fake......

I.E. there are synthetic diamonds now that are soooooo much like the real thing that most pawn shops can't tell the difff...

A lot of times, it is in very small details and knowing where to look. Occasionally, there will be small flaws you'd have to know to be able to tell. I don't think I've seen a fake that is unrecognizable as a fake for Jordans yet, but I suppose it could happen in handbags.
 

steppinthrax

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A lot of times, it is in very small details and knowing where to look. Occasionally, there will be small flaws you'd have to know to be able to tell. I don't think I've seen a fake that is unrecognizable as a fake for Jordans yet, but I suppose it could happen in handbags.

I know in the handbag I bought for my wife (coach). The "double CCs" pattern didn't line up in the stitching, that was the dead giveaway.
 

smackababy

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I know in the handbag I bought for my wife (coach). The "double CCs" pattern didn't line up in the stitching, that was the dead giveaway.

There are some dead giveaways, but a lot of those are getting better. Take for example the Jordan 11 knock offs we've been having coming out of China. The original fakes had bad workmanship (visible glue, typos, etc) and the carbon fiber plate was literally plastic painted to look like it. The current fakes though, have real carbon fiber and only have very small inconsistencies from the real ones. You wouldn't know if you saw it on someone's feet. You'd have to inspect it to be sure. However, despite all these advancements, China still hasn't figured out to how to properly ship their products. The boxes are always beat to hell.
 

Miramonti

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Sounds like a very deceptive poll. People want what they don't have, and most chinese simply have less. We on the other hand, pour all our money into materialism and generally obtain lots of sh!t, and we know that people with lots of sh!t are still retarded, so of course we don't 'value' it that much (but still plenty, to buy all the cr@p we do.)
 

gevorg

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Cultural differences and personal bias will affect on how people answer this question, which will not necessarily match their true attitude towards materialistic possession. I bet quite a lot materialistic people answered "No" just to feel better about themselves. Hence, this survey results are nearly worthless.

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Fritzo

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They spend all their money on high end junk. That's why they have to eat rice.*

*I'm really really sorry, I apologize unreservedly. You take it back.
I do, I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact, and was in no way fair comment, and was motivated purely by malice, and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you, or your family, and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future.
 

Crono

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There are probably a lot of Chinese people on the bubble of entering the middle class, and that's where how much stuff you own may be a metric of success. Not that different from how the U.S. was booming in the 50s and post WWII overall.

America is still very materialistic, it's just not something we perceive to be the case as much.
 

steppinthrax

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Cultural differences and personal bias will affect on how people answer this question, which will not necessarily match their true attitude towards materialistic possession. I bet quite a lot materialistic people answered "No" just to feel better about themselves. Hence, this survey results are nearly worthless.

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I believe this to be pretty true (as I've mentioned in my previous post in the thread). Survey's will always have skew...
 

mmntech

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The US has fallen behind, again. :(

Lol. I do think we here in North America do tend to measure success based on respect and power more than tangible goods. Not that there aren't plenty of folks trying to keep up with the Joneses. Which is why credit card debt is through the roof.
 

Craig234

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Can you explain to me why a handbag is worth $6,500 or even $2,300....

People who can spend a lot sometimes like to spend a lot on things because it makes them feel something they want. People who sell luxury good understand that, and understand that a higher price is *preferable* to a lot of buyers who wouldn't want the same item for a much lower price. It's some sort of expression of wealth.