So.. tell me about man-made/lab grown/synthetic diamonds.

[JulesMaximus]

Does she care? You are lying to her if you don't tell her and this can only lead to resentment, more deception, hatred, and eventually, death.

Don't forget identity theft.

 

[brianmanahan]

You sir are creeping me out. That you've grabbed my pic from another thread, personally spent time shopping these strangers' image.

dont worry, i have pictures of everyone on atot on my hard drive

and backed up on the cloud

and printed out and hung on my walls

 

[PlasmaBomb]

I was talking about drebo bro, and I don't think you really know as much as you think you do about rocks.

I have been pretty active in this since 1990ish. I know a lot about them.

Ah well looks like you are going to be less active now...

Anyone know what got him banned this time?

 

[jagec]

How can you tell it's chopped?

By the pixels?

 

[AnitaPeterson]

It's not love if you don't spend thousands on a rock that is mined by slave labor and was sold to finance violence.

Brilliant!

(pun intended)

 

[Mursilis]

Anyone know what got him banned this time?

No one's got the story on Alkie getting the boot again?

 

[Ns1]

No one's got the story on Alkie getting the boot again?

oh snap, i'm curious.

 

[ichy]

Anyone know what got him banned this time?

Maybe the fact that every single post of his was a troll post?

 

[jagec]

Maybe the fact that every single post of his was a troll post?

The mods liked it. It was like having our very own John Fitzgerald Page on the forums.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33981357&postcount=22

 

[JEDI]

I buy fake gems off of ebay to give to my 3 year old. I put them in clear plastic boxes for her to look at. On the other hand there are some really neat rutilated quartz stones that I think are pretty cool.

But if you're really set on diamonds, I'll relate my story. I refused to buy a diamond for my wife and was looking at synthetics but my wife found a great compromise. We took the diamonds from jewelry of our previously failed relationships (an engagement ring and earrings) and set the stones in a custom setting. Frugal, sure, but that's us and the story behind her diamond ring.

where did you buy the quartz? and how much?

 

[Ns1]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33981357&postcount=22

the straw that broke the camels back eh

 

[Fern]

I haven't read this whole thread, but I was in the market for a diamond/engagement ring about 18 months ago. At first, I thought that a lot of money could be saved by getting a lab-created diamond. But, the more I looked into it, what I found out was (and this is all from memory:
1 - The "real" lab-created diamonds are not less expensive than a natural diamond
-snip-

When I researched it that's exactly what I found.

And the cheap stuff isn't a man-made diamond at all. They're not as hard as a diamond (man-made or natural) and will lose their shine, or whatever you call it, because dirt etc will seep into the surface. So, those weren't an option for me either.

Fern

 

[MrColin]

To me, synthetic diamonds are superior. With "real" diamonds the price tag includes an artificially large profit margin from illegal monopolistic activity, slavery, and all manner of douchebagginess. With laboratory created diamonds you are getting stones that are not only more pure and perfect in the physical sense, but its very unlikely that any modern diamond lab can be more evil than the DeBeers corporation. Your money will go to support engineers and technicians instead of slave drivers and pirates.
I once called off an engagement on this issue.

 

[Phynaz]

Buy your diamonds used.

 

[keird]

where did you buy the quartz? and how much?

I bought some black tourmaline rutilated quartz at bazzars in Afghanistan but Ebay has plenty under $10.

Also, look for green.

 

[jagec]

And the cheap stuff isn't a man-made diamond at all. They're not as hard as a diamond (man-made or natural) and will lose their shine, or whatever you call it, because dirt etc will seep into the surface. So, those weren't an option for me either.

Fern

What are you doing to a cubic zirconia that makes it "lose its shine" and have "dirt seep into the surface"?

 

[Wreckem]

1 - false
2 - false
3 - really? It took me literally 2 minutes of searching to find a store nearby that was a reseller of chatham lab grown diamonds.

White/clear/colorless lab grown diamonds arent that much cheaper than the real thing, and often have shitty certs(by shitty I mean inferior to GIA/AGS certs which often means the stats on the cert arent reliable) and are of poor quality in terms of cut/polish/symmetry.

 

[Wreckem]

Buy your diamonds used.

This.

Or at the best least do not buy retail and buy from a reputable online store. The retail markup on diamonds is insane.

 

[Wreckem]

Perhaps you are right; it seems different labs have different specialties:
Gemesis - yellow
Apollo - white
D.NEA - blue, white, yellow
Diamond Culture: pink, Lime, Yellow
Created-diamonds.com - all colors

As you can see from the list above you can pretty much get any color you want if you're willing to shop around.



For the purposes of this discussion, I was referring to only artificially grown diamonds, not substitutes.

I suppose you're right about the price though; the price of diamonds has fell in the past few years, so the price of a dug up diamond versus a manufactured diamond is fairly close when you're dealing with 1 carat. Also the manufactured diamonds tend to top out at 1 ct. for white diamonds (I was able to find a 1.3 ct. white diamond, VS2, color: L, for $4487 at Gemesis), but you can get bigger if you go with a yellow diamond (e.g. you can get a 3 ct. yellow over at Gemesis).

That diamond you posted is an inferior diamond and thats why its ~$4500.

 

[Fausto]

To me, synthetic diamonds are superior. With "real" diamonds the price tag includes an artificially large profit margin from illegal monopolistic activity, slavery, and all manner of douchebagginess. With laboratory created diamonds you are getting stones that are not only more pure and perfect in the physical sense, but its very unlikely that any modern diamond lab can be more evil than the DeBeers corporation. Your money will go to support engineers and technicians instead of slave drivers and pirates.
I once called off an engagement on this issue.

The fuck you did.

 

[DCal430]

Colour Diamonds are actually more valuable than colourless ones. So don't think that color is some how a negative thing.