So Pre-emptive pardons are a real thing?

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brandonbull

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I hope 2025 is the worst year of your life brother. Have a shitty week too.
In 2020, Adam Schiff complained that Trump was going to issues preemptive pardons. I wonder how Schiff feels about Joe Biden issuing preemptive pardons? I see how you feel because your glorious totalitarian party now supports them. My week is great after seeing people that "fight against nazis" get mad when confronted about their support of totalitarians and oligarchs.
 

brandonbull

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Give me a break. Precedent clearly means jack fucking shit for many people. You think precedent is going to stop Republicans from being shitheads?
Democrats support Joe Biden pardoning his entire family and political allies but Trump and the GOP are the bad guys? Must be nice to dwell were reality and facts are not a thing. Dreamy liberal totalitarian utopia.
 

WelshBloke

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In 2020, Adam Schiff complained that Trump was going to issues preemptive pardons. I wonder how Schiff feels about Joe Biden issuing preemptive pardons? I see how you feel because your glorious totalitarian party now supports them. My week is great after seeing people that "fight against nazis" get mad when confronted about their support of totalitarians and oligarchs.
Totalitarians? The totalitarians that peacefully handed over power to the Trump administration even though Trump couldn't bring himself to do that at Bidens inauguration and supported a riot to try to seize power?
 

brandonbull

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And what do you say about this morning, Mr Fuckstick McWankpaddle?

seriously, care to comment about Trump pardoning 190 roundly convicted violent insurrectionists en masse in about 1 minute? Anything to say about that, you fucking dickhead? Giving them their gun rights back, all while the promise to buy more and more guns.
404 on insurrectionists. The majority were just standing around while you had Kamala Harris and others setting up GoBailMe funds to get actual violent offenders out of jail. Maybe Nancy Pelosi and other democRats should have let Federal Troops authorized by Trump help with crowd control? Just another outraged child because the liberal totalitarian utopia is falling down.
 

brandonbull

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Totalitarians? The totalitarians that peacefully handed over power to the Trump administration even though Trump couldn't bring himself to do that at Bidens inauguration and supported a riot to try to seize power?
Stop with the debunked "Trump supported a riot" nonsense. Testimony and documents hide by the J6 Committee showed that Trump authorized troops for crowd control but the democRats denied their use.
 

brycejones

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Totalitarians? The totalitarians that peacefully handed over power to the Trump administration even though Trump couldn't bring himself to do that at Bidens inauguration and supported a riot to try to seize power?
brandon is frequently confused about words actually mean.

Not exactly a shining example for the University of South Florida.
 
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WelshBloke

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Stop with the debunked "Trump supported a riot" nonsense. Testimony and documents hide by the J6 Committee showed that Trump authorized troops for crowd control but the democRats denied their use.
So why did he just pardon all of them then?

Edit: also...

 

brycejones

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Stop with the debunked "Trump supported a riot" nonsense. Testimony and documents hide by the J6 Committee showed that Trump authorized troops for crowd control but the democRats denied their use.
Bull shit


Still bull shit


Notice this lie keeps coming up and has been repeatedly debunked. You are a victim of propaganda.
 

VRAMdemon

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brandon is frequently confused about words actually mean.

Not exactly a shining example for the University of South Florida.

Remember ... It's a cult. The misinformation is imbedded like an Alabama tick.


 

outriding

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Bull shit


Still bull shit


Notice this lie keeps coming up and has been repeatedly debunked. You are a victim of propaganda. Lead paint chips

FTFY
 

MrSquished

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In 2020, Adam Schiff complained that Trump was going to issues preemptive pardons. I wonder how Schiff feels about Joe Biden issuing preemptive pardons? I see how you feel because your glorious totalitarian party now supports them. My week is great after seeing people that "fight against nazis" get mad when confronted about their support of totalitarians and oligarchs.
Why would I even bother trying to tell you facts about morals and corruption and decency - you are a totally rotten creature. I let these other folks waste their time trying to be rational and decent to evil beings like yourelf. But I do want to be honest with you - so again, I hope 2025 is the worst year of your life, and to everyone like you. Now go back to your cave.
 

fskimospy

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404 on insurrectionists. The majority were just standing around while you had Kamala Harris and others setting up GoBailMe funds to get actual violent offenders out of jail. Maybe Nancy Pelosi and other democRats should have let Federal Troops authorized by Trump help with crowd control? Just another outraged child because the liberal totalitarian utopia is falling down.
So to be clear you think it is bad that Trump pardoned those that were violent, right?

I mean violent felons who attack police should be in prison, right?

Watch you never answer. Lol.
 
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ivwshane

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In 2020, Adam Schiff complained that Trump was going to issues preemptive pardons. I wonder how Schiff feels about Joe Biden issuing preemptive pardons? I see how you feel because your glorious totalitarian party now supports them. My week is great after seeing people that "fight against nazis" get mad when confronted about their support of totalitarians and oligarchs.

Not that you care because you are all in on the Trump cult and will completely ignore this post but this was schiffs response to Biden’s pardons:

I continue to believe that the grant of pardons to a committee that undertook such important work to uphold the law was unnecessary, and because of the precedent it establishes, unwise,” Schiff said in a statement. “But I certainly understand why President Biden believed he needed to take this step in light of the persistent and baseless threats issued by Donald Trump and individuals who are now some of his law enforcement nominees.

 

trenchfoot

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In 2020, Adam Schiff complained that Trump was going to issues preemptive pardons. I wonder how Schiff feels about Joe Biden issuing preemptive pardons? I see how you feel because your glorious totalitarian party now supports them. My week is great after seeing people that "fight against nazis" get mad when confronted about their support of totalitarians and oligarchs.

You're comparing grenades with riot shields, comparing rioters with the folks who paid the price for resisting those rioters. Trump is pardoning convicted criminals while Biden is pardoning the folks that in one way or another convicted those criminals and convicts like them as Kamala Harris did as an AG.

Biden pardoned people that he believes Trump is going to get revenge on because those people made him look bad, those that tickled his oh so tender ego the wrong way, those that called him out for the moron he actually is (his former cabinet picks of all people), those that he said he will prosecute and/or investigate just to be spiteful as well as going after the loved ones of his enemies that he's targeted in his childish revenge campaign.

Big difference as to why Trump pardoned people that got convicted for crimes that he personally incited into perpetrating compared with the reasons that Biden pardoned the ones he did, of which was to protect them from Trump's childish efforts at "getting even and then some."
 

pmv

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"In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy." - Captain C.M. Gilbert

Exchange between Gilbert and Goring

They walk among us.

Sheesh, I feel apprehensive about disagreeing with someone with such experience (edited because I initally confused the name with the historian of the Holocaust Martin Gilbert, but the same sentiment applies)

But I don't really agree. I have always thought that 'empathy' was vastly over-rated as a quality. Some of the most vicious despots have employed 'empathy' as a weapon (Trump does it all the time, he clearly can empathise with those he wants as part of his gang, and makes use of that to better manipulate them). I gather psychologists have just figured this out, hence the creation of the concept of 'the dark empath'.

Furthermore it's long been obvious to me that empathy tends to be so selective as to be pretty much useless when it comes to preventing evil or as a basis for improving society. People tend to empathise almost exclusively with those who resemble themselves and find it nearly impossible to do so with those who have had very different experiences or exist in very different contexts. (I think this is what 'neurodivergence' types mean when they talk about the 'double empathy problem')


In short, it's perfectly possible to be capable of empathy and still be evil, and not being good at empathy doesn't make one evil. The two things are largely unrelated.
 
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zinfamous

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Stop with the debunked "Trump supported a riot" nonsense. Testimony and documents hide by the J6 Committee showed that Trump authorized troops for crowd control but the democRats denied their use.

your brain is fucking useless. It's only value at this point is to put it in a jar for other people to study how this happened to a human.
 
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