So Pre-emptive pardons are a real thing?

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Drach

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This is setting a bad precedent. Imagine chump pardoning/shielding his entire family from their illegal dealings.
Presidential pardons need to be revised.
 
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MrSquished

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Drach said:
This is setting a bad precedent. Imagine chump pardoning/shielding his entire family from their illegal dealings.
Presidential pardons need to be revised.
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Imagine comparing Trump to any democrat in regards to pardons or respecting our systems. Absolutely ridiculous and delusional.
 
Brainonska511

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Drach said:
This is setting a bad precedent. Imagine chump pardoning/shielding his entire family from their illegal dealings.
Presidential pardons need to be revised.
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Give me a break. Precedent clearly means jack fucking shit for many people. You think precedent is going to stop Republicans from being shitheads?
 
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MrSquished

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I'm a huge Biden critic but let's be real, he absolutely did the right and moral thing here with these pardons. I mean it's plainly obvious.
 
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outriding

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brandonbull said:
Quasi-fascist? What's quasi about Trump's fascism?

Zero examples of Trump's fascism besides your hurt feelz. Biden was at the helm for one of the most corrupt Presidential terms and then issues blanket pardons for family and political allies to prevent criminal persecutions.
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Saying you dont understand fascism without saying it

Going after your enemies is a component of fascism

 
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FelixDeCat

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cytg111 said:
Its hardly a precedent.
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I intend to set new precedents with pardon power, more than the corrupt Biden administration did with its odd "preemptive" pardons. They will be beautiful pardons, such wonderful pardons.

I will make pardons great again.
 
nickqt

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Another thread where people get trolled by a throw away one liner by a known dogfucker. Yawn.
 
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Lanyap

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eelw said:
Hmm he didn’t pardon Jill or the grandkids. Quick Repugnicans, go after them!!!
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Speaking of which, does anyone notice how angry MAGAs are towards Jill Biden? Whenever I read an article with Jill in it the MAGAs go nuts with angry comments. I don’t get it.
 
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pmv

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SteveGrabowski said:
Quasi-fascist? What's quasi about Trump's fascism?
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If you want a serious answer, he's clearly not the whole deal yet. He obviously has fascist instincts, and the forces that bought him to power seem disturbingly similar to those that produced actual historical fascism, but the US system is still a very long way from a fully fascist one. In any case even if he's a foreshadowing he may not be fascism's final form (history features plenty of inept quasi-fascist leaders, who in many cases ended up meeting their end at the hands of the more competent ones who supplanted them).
 
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pmv said:
If you want a serious answer, he's clearly not the whole deal yet. He obviously has fascist instincts, and the forces that bought him to power seem disturbingly similar to those that produced actual historical fascism, but the US system is still a very long way from a fully fascist one. In any case even if he's a foreshadowing he may not be fascism's final form (history features plenty of inept quasi-fascist leaders, who in many cases ended up meeting their end at the hands of the more competent ones who supplanted them).
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1500 pardons for rioters begs to differ at least if we revise the term to authoritarian at a minimum. He just gave all of the insurrectionists a get out of jail free card.

I guess are you saying he’s an embryonic fascist? The only thing limiting him is the various institutions that are supposed to check executive power. And they’re being degraded by the day and have been for years.
 
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MrSquished said:
Man some people are really fucking dumb. Let's respect norms, after look what's happened. So stupid. I'm not asking for Democrats to break legal norms like subverting the Constitution, but this is just pathetic to validate this farce of handling over power to a corrupt fascist.

I'm sorry I think anybody who thinks that Biden doing shit like this is what has to be done, is a fucking moron that doesn't have a clue about what kind of situation we are in. You simply lack a basic understanding of some very basic reality.

If you think respecting norms like Biden is here, saying welcome home to Trump after their limo ride together, is the right thing to do, I'm sorry I think you're a fucking idiot.

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The only one who doesn't have basic understanding of reality and is a fucking idiot here is you, and those that think like you. Curious, how many thieves and criminals, do you have as kids, who are shitty people, and when did you become a thief and criminal yourself? Because if you where a father that remotely resembled what you believe should take place here at the goverment level, you gave up being a father, a leader, and a proper roll model for them and became a thief, criminal and a shitty person in general because that's how you believe things should be done. The shit you have been posting the last few months shows you have alreaday turned into a shitty person.. How is that working out for you? Is it making things better?
 
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jdubs03 said:
1500 pardons for rioters begs to differ at least if we revise the term to authoritarian at a minimum. He just gave all of the insurrectionists a get out of jail free card.

I guess are you saying he’s an embryonic fascist? The only thing limiting him is the various institutions that are supposed to check executive power. And they’re being degraded by the day and have been for years.
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It's more than a get out of jail free card: it's a signal that they should do it again should Trump call on them.
 
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NWRMidnight said:
The only one who doesn't have basic understanding of reality and is a fucking idiot here is you, and those that think like you. Curious, how many thieves and criminals, do you have as kids, who are shitty people, and when did you become a thief and criminal yourself? Because if you where a father that remotely resembled what you believe should take place here at the goverment level, you gave up being a father, a leader, and a proper roll model for them and became a thief, criminal and a shitty person in general because that's how you believe things should be done. The shit you have been posting the last few months shows you have alreaday turned into a shitty person.. How is that working out for you? Is it making things better?
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Your mind is fucking melted. Imagine your fucking stupid pathetic little rant because I think it's improper that Joe Biden attended an inauguration of fucking Nazis and you're associating me with criminal actions?

You're as dumb as fucking red squirrel. And that's saying, something cuz that mother fucker is dumb.

Now go properly fuck off you dolt.
 
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