So Powell makes a claim

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phillyTIM

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Thanks, Conjur! Apparently I was a bit too early in the breaking-news department, to be able to find an article earlier. :)

Looks like the Bush Chain of Lies continues in full-force right after re-election, huh?

Pityful.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Powell States Preference for Diplomacy
http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne..._on_go_ca_st_pe/powell
WASHINGTON - In a candid interview with his time in office running out, Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) is acknowledging differences with others in the Bush administration and suggesting that the disputes centered on his preference for diplomacy over force to resolve problems.

But Powell steadfastly resisted being designated a dove by a Chilean television interviewer. "I never liked these titles," he said.

But the secretary then went on to describe his long-held inclination, through several administrations, "of analyzing situations carefully to see if military force is appropriate."

"If it is appropriate, we should force," Powell said in the interview he gave to Chile's TVN on Thursday in Santiago during an economic conference of Pacific nations.

"But if we can avoid the use of military force with diplomacy, through a political action, that is what we should try to do, and that is what President Bush (news - web sites) tried to do," Powell said.

"I have supported him in that effort," Powell said.


The retired four-star general noted he had been involved in many combat operations in his lifetime.

Announcement of Powell's resignation Monday and Bush's naming of his hard-line national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), as the next secretary of state, revived recollections of Powell's moderate leanings in contrast to such hawks as Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) and Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Powell, in the interview, did not describe any of the disputes. Nor did he say specifically with whom he disagreed. "We have differences," he said. But Powell then ticked off areas where senior advisers were in accord, such as the expansion of the NATO (news - web sites) alliance.

"Within any administration, and I have been in many administrations, there have always been disagreements from time to time," Powell said. But he declined to link disagreements with other Bush advisers to his departure from the Cabinet.

"I thought that four years serving as secretary of state was long enough time for me," Powell said. "And the president and I have been discussing it for some time, that it would probably be appropriate and better for us to make a change at the four-year point."

"That's all of what it is to it," Powell said. "If the disagreements were so severe as some people claim, there wouldn't have been four years."
Wow. He is still whoring for Bush even at this late hour of his career.

Sad. So very sad.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: conjur
OH NOES!! Teh WMDs!!



?There's an old saying in Tennessee...There's a saying in Texas, maybe it's in Tennessee. Fool me once, Shame on...(3 second pause)...Shame on you....(pause)...Fool me...(pause)...You can't get fooled again."

60 million voters proved that wrong.

60 million voters proved stupidity is epidemic in America.
And the meek shall inherit the earth.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: conjur
OH NOES!! Teh WMDs!!



?There's an old saying in Tennessee...There's a saying in Texas, maybe it's in Tennessee. Fool me once, Shame on...(3 second pause)...Shame on you....(pause)...Fool me...(pause)...You can't get fooled again."

60 million voters proved that wrong.

60 million voters proved stupidity is epidemic in America.
And the meek shall inherit the earth.

The "meek", not the "stupid". ;)
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Jan 20, 2001
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Looks like the flies are already collecting on Powell's most recent "dump" . . .

Source of Powell's Iran intelligence under scrutiny
Some U.S. officials were angered by a report in Friday's edition of The Washington Post which quotes two sources who said Powell used information that was classified, and from a single unvetted source.

The Post article said the information Powell shared with reporters came from a "walk-in" source who approached U.S. intelligence and may or may not be reliable.

While declining to say whether the Post account was accurate, one U.S. official said "public discussion of the details of the human source of intelligence is irresponsible and a remarkably bad idea."

The official called it "disturbing" that other officials would discuss sources and methods in any detail with a journalist.
Per the usual MO . . . instead of working on the intelligence . . . Bush officials spend their time trying to find the "whistleblowers."



 

Yzzim

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Feb 13, 2000
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VIENNA, Austria (AP) - Iran is spending the last few days before it must stop all work related to uranium enrichment converting tons of ore into a dual-use gas that could then be processed to make nuclear weapons, diplomats said Friday.

Iran recently started producing uranium hexafluoride at its gas processing facilities in Isfahan, the diplomats told The Associated Press. When introduced into centrifuges and spun, the substance can be enriched to low levels for use as fuel to generate electricity or to levels high enough to make weapons-grade uranium that forms the core of nuclear warheads.

A diplomat familiar with the International Atomic Energy Agency - the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency - said the Iranians apparently were in the process of converting 22 tons of uranium into gas before Monday's deadline. Iran was doing this either as a precursor to producing uranium hexafluoride or actually producing it.

Iran is not believed to have enriched substantive amounts of uranium hexafluoride.

Iran has insisted it wants to produce uranium hexafluoride for enrichment to generate electricity. The United States - which once labeled Iran part of an "axis of evil" with North Korea and prewar Iraq - believes Iran is trying to make atomic bombs.

On Friday, Iran dismissed as "baseless" Secretary of State Colin Powell's claims that he had seen intelligence indicating that Iran "had been actively working on delivery systems" for a nuclear weapon.

Iran last week agreed to suspend uranium enrichment and all related activities in a deal worked out with Britain, France, Germany and the European Union. The deal, which takes effect Monday, prohibits Iran from all uranium gas processing activities.

But the diplomats, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Tehran was exploiting the window until Monday to produce uranium hexafluoride at its Isfahan plant in central Iran.

Asked about quantities, one diplomat said "it's not little," but he declined to elaborate.


Iran has huge reserves of raw uranium and has announced plans to extract more than 40 tons a year.

That amount, converted to uranium hexafluoride and repeatedly spun in centrifuges, theoretically could yield more than 200 pounds of weapons-grade highly enriched uranium, enough for about five crude nuclear weapons.

Iranian officials say the Isfahan plant can convert more than 300 tons of uranium ore a year.

Iran is not prohibited from making uranium hexafluoride until the deal takes force. But its decision to carry out uranium processing right up to the freeze deadline was expected to disappoint the Europeans - and give the United States ammunition in its push to have the U.N. Security Council examine Tehran's nuclear activities.

Washington says Iran wants to enrich uranium to make weapons. Tehran says it is interested only in low-grade enriched uranium for nuclear power.

Iran announced suspension of enrichment last week, and the agency said it would police that commitment starting next week, ahead of the Nov. 25 IAEA board meeting.

Although the deal commits Iran to suspension only while a comprehensive aid agreement with the EU is finalized, the pledge reduced Washington's hopes of having the IAEA board refer Iran to the Security Council when the board meets Thursday.

By opting to freeze - and not scrap - the program, Tehran has not dropped plans to run 50,000 centrifuges to enrich uranium for what it says will be the fuel requirements of a nuclear reactor to be finished next year.

It currently possesses less than 1,000 centrifuges. But even with 1,500 centrifuges, experts say, Iran would be able to make enough weapons-grade uranium for about a bomb a year.

Iran, meanwhile, dismissed Powell's remarks about its nuclear program as "baseless," adding that he should review his intelligence sources.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi was reacting to Powell's comments on claims by the Iranian dissident group, the National Council for Resistance in Iran, which alleged that Tehran was secretly running a program intended to produce nuclear weapons by next year.

Powell said Wednesday he had seen intelligence that partially confirmed the claim, including some indicating that Iran "had been actively working on delivery systems" for a nuclear weapon.

"There is no place for weapons of mass destruction in Iran's defense doctrine," Asefi said, according to the official Islamic Republic News Agency.

Asefi suggested that U.S. officials "reconsider their intelligence sources."

On Thursday, Asefi dismissed the claims of the Iranian dissident group, which the United States and the European Union consider to be a terrorist organization.

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conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/...powell.iran/index.html
The issue surfaced when The National Council of Resistance of Iran -- which is on the U.S. State Department's list of terrorist organizations --revealed satellite photographs this week it said showed a hidden nuclear plant in Iran, allegations the Iranians denied.

"This allegation is timed to coincide with the next meeting of the board of governors of the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency]," Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Hussein Moussavian, said. "And every time just before the meeting there are these kind of allegations either from the United States or terrorist groups. And every time these allegations have proven to be false."
Wait a minute...we're taking the word of a group that is on the State Dept's list of terrorist organizations as solid proof that Iran was or is adapting missiles with nuclear warheads?? :confused:


Isn't that how Bush et al got into trouble in the first place? By using a group known to be dubious?
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Perfectly logical. Might be true

But I can't believe him. This administration has shown itself incompetent or a bunch of liars or both.

They cried wolf too many times, which is a shame. I wish I could trust their judgement.

Come on you 49% losers, face you're in the minority and obviously wrong.

If Powell says Iran is building WMD then it has to be true just like in Iraq.

Get with the program.

Where are the troops going to come from to invade Iran???

Iran is building nukes and missles for the delivery of them, anyone with some form of intelligence can figure this out

you would too if you had crazy american imperialists squeezing you from both sides. Iran is the size of Alaska, and 70 million people. It's a big fish

 

GreatBarracuda

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Originally posted by: BBond
60 million voters proved stupidity is epidemic in America.

That's the inherent nature of democracy. An intelligent, informed man's vote counts just as much as an uninformed, ignorant simpleton's. Not a good system of government by any means.

 

Ronstang

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Jul 8, 2000
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I say we just let the Iranians be. If they aren't working on WMDs then all is well and if they are then they are going to be aimed at "blue states" anyway so it doesn't concern me.
 

Gaard

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from the NYT...

"Stop us if you've heard this one before. The Bush administration creates a false sense of urgency about a nuclear menace from a Middle Eastern country. Hard-liners talk about that country's connections to terrorists. They portray European diplomatic efforts to defuse tensions as a feckless attempt to appease a rogue nation whose word can never be trusted anyway. Secretary of State Colin Powell makes ominous-sounding warnings about new intelligence, which turns out to be dubious."

:laugh:
 

1EZduzit

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Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: conjur
OH NOES!! Teh WMDs!!



?There's an old saying in Tennessee...There's a saying in Texas, maybe it's in Tennessee. Fool me once, Shame on...(3 second pause)...Shame on you....(pause)...Fool me...(pause)...You can't get fooled again."

60 million voters proved that wrong.

LMAO