So our priest denied our daughter's baptism...

[Malak]

lol Baptist don't baptize babies.

That's because baptism isn't for babies.

 

[Cogman]

You're acting like its the end of the world. They won't baptize her...so what? How about you just raise your kid up to be a good person and not worry about the politics.

The fact that you want your child to lean on the church for guidance tells me you haven't considered the fact that your child doesn't need the church to be a model citizen.

There is more than one way to live life. I hope you have some REAL problems.

Depending how strong your catholic belief is, not baptizing a child is about as bad as sending it to hell if the worst happens.

 

[Malak]

Depending how strong your catholic belief is, not baptizing a child is about as bad as sending it to hell if the worst happens.

Thankfully God decides who goes to hell, not Catholics.

 

[IronWing]

That's because baptism isn't for babies.

Says you. Others disagree.

 

[irishScott]

No, that's the scientologists.

Fixed.

 

[irishScott]

Thankfully God decides who goes to hell, not Catholics.

This. Unfortunately Conservative Catholics are among the arrogant morons of the world who think they know not only what God wants, but what is going through his head at any given time.

 

[Malak]

Says you. Others disagree.

Baptism is a choice the babies can't make. It isn't open for interpretation.

 

[IronWing]

Baptism is a choice the babies can't make. It isn't open for interpretation.

You're just going to have to have a sock puppet wrestling match with the Catholics on this one. Saying it isn't open for interpretation is a bit nonsensical when two thousand years of theological/intellectual masturbation says it is.

 

[Delta6Echo]

Depending how strong your catholic belief is, not baptizing a child is about as bad as sending it to hell if the worst happens.

Dante's Inferno was written between 1308-1314. Living in fear is not living at all.

D6E

 

[Malak]

You're just going to have to have a sock puppet wrestling match with the Catholics on this one. Saying it isn't open for interpretation is a bit nonsensical when two thousand years of theological/intellectual masturbation says it is.

<insert camera, leotard, and mic> You tell the pope I'm ready for him anytime! Bring it fancy pants! Pointy hats are for sissies!

 

[alkemyst]

Says you. Others disagree.

much like being born a citizen.

 

[rhino56]

If you go to any church you will find a neglected area, the trash bins, the back door with peeling paint, the cupboards under the sink with the bucket to catch the drip or could be anything. These are areas in our own lives that exist mainly where people don't see them.
Like a cluttered closet in your home, we all have them, including the priest. It makes us so non perfect.
These things are a reflection of who we are, what we are and how we view ourselves. It is an area that God is always calling us to see, that we may know our human imperfections and find humility. Humility brings with it a loss of worldly ego and a loss of control, in this imperfect state it is only those who truly love us that we see. For many it is finding Gods perfect love for us despite all our imperfections. Knowing we are still loved despite these things goes beyond our comprehension. How could you love someone who murdered your child? Only God can. Is any man carrying this perfect love that he may decide who is worthy to be baptized Into the kingdom of God? Do you really want someone like that baptizing your daughter? He has no more right to gods love and authority then you do.

First response was correct, baptize her yourself with an outward showing of love and forgiveness everyday.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I agree with this, and hopefully the priest will give us the opportunity to do so. In hindsight, I wish I knew the requirements when she was born 2 months ago, because we would have brought her to church every week screaming, wailing and pooping so we wouldn't have a problem now. My wife went twice since she was born (while I watched her), but I guess that doesn't really count. Unfortunately the priest was on vacation since June, so he wouldn't have seen her anyhow, and he didn't respond until yesterday. We should have just brought her anyway. Oh well, you live and you learn.

You just dont get it do you???

This has nothing to do with your daughter!!
This has to do with you and your wife NOT attending Mass regularly!!
Also $500 is nothing over the course of a year!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Ok last week you were an Israeli/Polish Jew
This week your Catholic?

Earl I am a cantor in the the Catholic church........I get paid to cantor.
My wife`s parents happen to be Catholic and Jewish.

There is a side of my family when I was growing up that wanted nothing to do with being Jewish......
It`s a long story suffice it to say I get along with the Priest`s and the Rabbi`s
where I Live.

I am in very good standing with my Synagogue and the Parish where I cantor!

In fact I do quite well as a cantor and a musician!

 

[Nik]

I'm kind of annoyed. The wife and I are Roman Catholic, and the reasoning was that we don't visit every week. I'll admit, we are pretty lax, we go on major religious holidays, probably about 6 times a year.
/rant

I'm a Buddhist. I don't read the philosophy or attend meetings or really do anything, but I still like to call myself a Buddhist so that makes me a Buddhist.

Maybe next week I'll convert to Baha'i. I haven't tried calling-myself-but-not-being one of those yet.

 

[Nik]

Depending how strong your catholic belief is, not baptizing a child is about as bad as sending it to hell if the worst happens.

Yes, because children who do not have the mental capacity to understand any concept except food, sleep, and tit are responsible for their sins and are going to hell because they didn't accept Christ as the savior of their soul.

 

[alkemyst]

If you are going to roll your eyes at that I hope you can at least bring some proof of Christ as a sidenote.

 

[Nik]

If you are going to roll your eyes at that I hope you can at least bring some proof of Christ as a sidenote.

wtf are you talking about

 

[Perknose]

Earl I am a cantor in the the Catholic church........I get paid to cantor.

I'm guessing you're not Roman Catholic, so which Orthodox Catholic Church, JY?

 

[alkemyst]

wtf are you talking about

i think your pilot light is out.

 

[Nik]

i think your pilot light is out.

Good lord. I don't even know why you post.

 

[Wyndru]

Today we spoke to the priest and explained our situation, I explained how I have been with the parish since I was a baby, was confirmed there, married there, etc. I also explained that during our 20's we moved a lot, and were not even in the area for a while so we weren't really going to church a lot except the major holidays. I also explained that we were interested in attending more frequently and would like to raise our daughter into the same parish.

He still shot us down. Wow. I spoke with a close friend who is in the choir there, and she said there are major problems with the church since the merger, and they aren't even paying their bills anymore. She is quitting because she isn't getting paid any longer for masses. I wonder if they are just shutting down the place. Kind of strange being it is always packed.

Oh well, off to another parish.

 

[Wyndru]

I'm a Buddhist. I don't read the philosophy or attend meetings or really do anything, but I still like to call myself a Buddhist so that makes me a Buddhist.

Maybe next week I'll convert to Baha'i. I haven't tried calling-myself-but-not-being one of those yet.

You sort of missed all of the posts where I said that I went through the sacraments in this church, and plan on going more frequently.

 

[Slapstick]

You should do as I did, give up on the Catholic church. Any organization that allows the systematic abuse of children world wide is not place to bring a child nor one I would want to belong too. Personally I'd be afraid to bring my child to a Catholic church.

 

[Cogman]

Yes, because children who do not have the mental capacity to understand any concept except food, sleep, and tit are responsible for their sins and are going to hell because they didn't accept Christ as the savior of their soul.

You guys are so funny.

I'm NOT catholic and I don't believe what they do (I don't believe that infants need to be baptized). What I am saying is that depending on how strict the catholic person is, a priest refusing to baptize a child can be pretty dang serious to them.

I'm NOT trying to argue the correctness/incorrectness of the catholic doctrine. That is pointless here. The OP is catholic, I'm trying to relate to his situation. If the OP was a Jain and his religious leader force him to eat while performing the Santhara, I would have tried to relate with how hurt the OP would have felt being denied eternal progression. That is not saying that I am a Jain follower.