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so NYC, and now Chicago have decriminilzed pot possession, this is big.

zanejohnson

zanejohnson

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i didnt see it playing out like this, i imagined it would be entire states legalizing MMJ...

but nope, NYC, and now Chicago has decriminalized the possession of small amounts <15g

looks like it's gonna go major cities first, and then MMJ, or maybe? no MMJ?
 
It will not matter if the Feds do not turn a blind eye.

Illegal on the Fed level trumps legal on the city level
 
Legalization should not try to piggy back off medical marijuana, it should just be legal on it's own merits. Trying to piggy back it off mmj means that those opposing it will have leverage since so many "abuse" the medical system to get it.
 
EagleKeeper said:
It will not matter if the Feds do not turn a blind eye.

Illegal on the Fed level trumps legal on the city level
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it's more about desensitizing the public to it... once the public is cool with it, it will pass on every level... or at last be treated like prostitution...
 
GoPackGo said:
Like how? Getting your picture thrown on a website after you are arrested?
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like it almost is now, even in texas when you get caught, misdemeanor C... except the cop is just gonna look the other way if you have a joint, no misdemeanor C...

just like joe ceo gets pulled over, and there's a asian woman in a shiny dress in the car with him..
 
eaglekepper said:
It will not matter if the Feds do not turn a blind eye.

Illegal on the Fed level trumps legal on the city level.
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I can't agree. Simple possession of marijuana is rarely if ever prosecuted at the federal level because they do not have the resources for it, and they're in no position to police it. The vast majority of arrests for personal use possession are by local police. True, the feds can still affect the supply with high level busts, but local de-criminalization pretty much means that ordinary people can possess and use it without worry of legal sanction.
 
zanejohnson said:
i didnt see it playing out like this, i imagined it would be entire states legalizing MMJ...

but nope, NYC, and now Chicago has decriminalized the possession of small amounts <15g

looks like it's gonna go major cities first, and then MMJ, or maybe? no MMJ?
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The entire STATE of California and Main have decriminalized Marijuana, California under 1oz or 28 grams is not a crime, and main under 2.5 oz or 71 grams is not a crime.
 
DCal430 said:
The entire STATE of California and Main have decriminalized Marijuana, California under 1oz or 28 grams is not a crime, and main under 2.5 oz or 71 grams is not a crime.
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yep cali led the way, AZ is the closest MJ state to me right now.. but now i see the major cities decriminalizing... this is good news for all the pot smokers, bad for big pharma..
 
Y'all are behind the times; Oregon decriminalized pot back in the early 70s. Which might explain why so many people here use the stuff... Goddamn potheads.
 
Don't get too excited. Colorado voters have essentially decriminalized pot for medicinal use (😉), but the legislature and law enforcement look at the situation differently. The lawmakers know a cash cow when they see it so they are pushing through fees to get on the gravy train. The police answer to a higher authority than the unscrubbed masses who must be smoking something.

Decriminalization is open to interpretation by the courts and whoever wants to alter the overlapping laws.
 
EagleKeeper said:
It will not matter if the Feds do not turn a blind eye.

Illegal on the Fed level trumps legal on the city level
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A lot of the drug war by the feds is carried out by the state and local police. If the NYPD stops busting people for small posession of pot. The feds are most likely going to be left helpless on enforcing thier will on the city. Unless of course the feds start threatening to withold funds. Which is how they browbeat states and local to do their dirty work.
 
Zedtom said:
Decriminalization is open to interpretation by the courts and whoever wants to alter the overlapping laws.
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Decriminalization is also often only for amounts of under an ounce or so, which is not exactly a gigantic amount of marijuana. And the cops can still confiscate it if they catch you with it, decriminalized or not.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
Decriminalization is also often only for amounts of under an ounce or so, which is not exactly a gigantic amount of marijuana. And the cops can still confiscate it if they catch you with it, decriminalized or not.
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this is all anyone wants, potheads just dont want to sit in jail for 90 silly days over a half ounce of pot....
 
No reason for pot to be illegal. I don't smoke it and I wouldn't smoke it if it were 100% legal and completely without recourse, but I still don't understand why its illegal.

It doesn't impair you any more than alcohol does. Just make enhancements on crimes, like there are with alcohol.

It's stupid that we waste so much tax-payer money on housing these non-violent drug offenders in prison. That money could much better be spent on rehab programs for harder drugs (many of which are legal...oxy, for instance) and other medical services. Combine the savings in prison populations with a sin tax on legal marijuana, and that's a huge lump of cash.

Toeing the party line is pretty stupid for both sides in this case.
 
Keep in mind, even if it is made legal, doesn't mean you are going to be able to smoke it and not get fired. So basically, anyone who is a contributing member of society could give a shit. I am all for legalizing but only to free up the resources used to combat it for other, more important things. I am not for legalizing just to make it easier to get high.
 
Genx87 said:
A lot of the drug war by the feds is carried out by the state and local police. If the NYPD stops busting people for small posession of pot. The feds are most likely going to be left helpless on enforcing thier will on the city. Unless of course the feds start threatening to withold funds. Which is how they browbeat states and local to do their dirty work.
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don't states like cali and NY pay more to the feds than they get back? if the fed went down that route, what's to stop NY and cali threatening to withhold payments to the fed?
 
Decriminalization is the worst of both worlds. The illegality still breeds a black market that results in violent crime and the use of resources to police and prosecute trafficking without any of the additional tax revenue, quality regulation, or other benefits of legalization. We need to pick one.
 
Moonbeam said:
Jealous they have their priorities straight?
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Not jealous. If I want a liter of cola, I should be able to have one. Can't ban everything just because some people can't be responsible.

Don't really care about pot one way or the other, to be honest. It's stupid that we spend so much money and manpower trying to prevent it's distribution, though, since clearly it doesn't prevent it at all. I don't smoke it, for the record.
 
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