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So Mythbusters are now developing armor?

Soccerman06

Soccerman06

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I searched and nothing so whatever

MythBusters Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman (photo, right) have a reputation for blending the nutty professor's scientific method with the daredevil's lust for pyrotechnic hijinks. They've debunked many a schoolyard myth and urban legend on their popular television show, and done it all with Christmas-morning glee. In the name of science they've fired cheese out of canons, driven cars off cliffs and even lit a match head with a bullet fired from a .45 caliber pistol.

Wacky experiments aside, the dynamic duo's technical, up-close-and-personal work with TNT and C4 explosives has garnished the attention of the U.S. government, debunking the myth that playing with dynamite leads to a dead-end career.

Because of his explosive resume and MythBusters' idiosyncratic settings, Jamie Hyneman has recently been working with the Office of Naval Research to develop lightweight armor for U.S. military vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"We had a lot of experience in the show dealing with explosives, obviously in ways and situations that are outside the norm. This is very revealing, because when you see something outside the norm you get to see what the boundaries of the phenomenon are," Hyneman told The Register.

"I'd looked at those and formed a lot of questions in my head. When I saw the opportunity to do research on a topic, I got very active and applied a lot of what I'd learned on the show."

Hyneman's task was to devise an ultra-lightweight armor that wouldn't weigh-down vehicles, but was still strong enough to withstand shrapnel and blast damage from powerful improvised explosive devices (IED's) while protecting those inside the vehicle from the blast's pressure wave.

Hyneman has previously worked with the military when he designed a robotic human avatar for new army medics to practice on. The realistic avatar groans and spurts blood until a successful tourniquet is applied, which helps prepare new medics for the gore they might experience in the field. The avatar is being manufactured "by the dozen", Hyneman told The Register, and is being used for training in the Middle East.
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http://news.discovery.com/tech/mythbusters-developing-us-military-armor-110411.html

I dont quite understand how they are going to manage to develop something that companies that actually do this for a living already do and have done. Who was dumb enough in the Naval Research ranks to even suggest this? Just because they are near explosives, it does not qualify them as experts, hell they arent even allowed to set up anything more explosive than small amounts gunpowder without supervision.
 
Pretty sure the only reason the supervision is there is due to the legality of the explosives and their insurance company, not their knowledge.
 
techs said:
I have to admit that I have no fusking idea what your link is about.
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Well, they failed in recreating that battle where Archimedes supposedly used array of mirrors in parabolic formation to burn enemy ships. They used flat mirrors instead of mirrors that are concave. Archimedes loved spheres and parabolic stuff, I'm sure he wouldn't be using flat mirrors to focus sun rays.

You have to watch that episode to see where they failed.
 
SSSnail said:
Well, they failed in recreating that battle where Archimedes supposedly used array of mirrors in parabolic formation to burn enemy ships. They used flat mirrors instead of mirrors that are concave. Archimedes loved spheres and parabolic stuff, I'm sure he wouldn't be using flat mirrors to focus sun rays.

You have to watch that episode to see where they failed.
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All I could think of was the Archimedes screw and I was trying to figure out how your diagram applied.
 
I remember a show (not Mythbuster I don't think) where they got this spray on Rhino Liner and they sprayed the side of a building to help protect the building against car bomb. With relative success. As long as you are protecting the building only :biggrin:


edit:Smash Labs, not Mythbuster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W7uFiPVF5I
 
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They have failed on a ton of stuff.

They fucked up the "car fused between two trucks" things not once, but twice. They failed to have both trucks hit centered on the car both times. Only on the second time, they acted as if they accomplished it perfectly and there was nothing wrong.

I'm not saying that if it was done correctly that it would be true, just that they do so much that is just FAIL it's unbelievable.

It's a good show that has entertainment value (and Kari Byron), don't get me wrong, but the science part of it is a bunch of bullshit.
 
Ooo watch out for the interwebs science elites!! Go build a damn Archimedes death ray yourself then Snail. You can go to home depot and start today!
 
Numenorean said:
They have failed on a ton of stuff.

They fucked up the "car fused between two trucks" things not once, but twice. They failed to have both trucks hit centered on the car both times. Only on the second time, they acted as if they accomplished it perfectly and there was nothing wrong.

I'm not saying that if it was done correctly that it would be true, just that they do so much that is just FAIL it's unbelievable.

It's a good show that has entertainment value (and Kari Byron), don't get me wrong, but the science part of it is a bunch of bullshit.
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Actually, on the second show, they followed up with high explosive to figure out what it would take to fuse metals, and it was proven that you just can't do it with two big rigs.
 
Nintendesert said:
Ooo watch out for the interwebs science elites!! Go build a damn Archimedes death ray yourself then Snail. You can go to home depot and start today!
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Seriously? Are you too daft to understand the different properties of how the sun ray would reflect off flat mirrors vs that of concave mirrors?

Thanks for proving that you're an idiot, before you were just another nonchalant poster.
 
SSSnail said:
Actually, on the second show, they followed up with high explosive to figure out what it would take to fuse metals, and it was proven that you just can't do it with two big rigs.
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What part of "I'm not saying that if it was done correctly that it would be true" didn't you understand?
 
I thought that when they said "fused between two trucks" they meant that it would just get mangled up and would get stuck to the trucks, not that the actual metals would heat up enough to get fused together.
 
coldmeat said:
I thought that when they said "fused between two trucks" they meant that it would just get mangled up and would get stuck to the trucks, not that the actual metals would heat up enough to get fused together.
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I think that's the intent of the myth - that the force was enough to hide the car between them so much that they didn't tell until pulling the trucks apart.

Problem was, they never hit dead on. It was always off, which shoved the car in a different direction and just uber failed when the two trucks collided.

I am not saying it's an easy thing to setup and get right, but to do it and act like you accomplished it perfectly when you obviously didn't is just stupid.
 
They got it close enough on the second try for all intents and purposes. They then used rocket, then explosives - no fusing. Even if they set it up perfectly, it will NEVER fuse. The experiment was set up to say that "yeah yeah, we did it so you guys can see shits smashed together, but in reality it will never happen".
 
SSSnail said:
They got it close enough on the second try for all intents and purposes. They then used rocket, then explosives - no fusing. Even if they set it up perfectly, it will NEVER fuse. The experiment was set up to say that "yeah yeah, we did it so you guys can see shits smashed together, but in reality it will never happen".
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They didn't even come CLOSE AT ALL in the second one. They tried to hide it but they sucked at that too.
 
The trouble with professionals is they know all the answers and can still get it wrong.
Military armor is designed to fend off military weapons.
If it won't stop military weapons why bother. So military sense goes.
Which probably means they can help.
 
Nintendesert said:
Ooo watch out for the interwebs science elites!! Go build a damn Archimedes death ray yourself then Snail. You can go to home depot and start today!
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Truly. The internet is about telling people they're wrong, not actually proving they're wrong. LOL, you only have to do that irl.
 
coldmeat said:
I thought that when they said "fused between two trucks" they meant that it would just get mangled up and would get stuck to the trucks, not that the actual metals would heat up enough to get fused together.
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That was my take as well. That happens on a regular basis when it comes to shit slamming together and getting stuck.


The trouble with professionals is they know all the answers and can still get it wrong.
Military armor is designed to fend off military weapons.
If it won't stop military weapons why bother. So military sense goes.
Which probably means they can help.
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That's a really good point. The article says IED. IMPROVISED explosives. That means the military builds something and jamie tries to blow it up. Jamie doesn't make military bombs, but he knows how to make IEDs and other home made shit that the military might encounter in Afghanistan or Iraq.
 
My take on it is that there is simply too much dead space behind the front of the trucks for them BOTH to ever hit dead on exact as would be needed. Not too mention all the other factors that would have to play out exactly the same for both trucks for it too happen. Was a fail from the beginning IMO, but I like the show regardless. They do enough explosions on high speed camera for me to watch it every other week or so.
 
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