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So, my wife has had two deals fall apart because of

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
My wife is a Realtor and despite the downturn she has done rather well this year, all things considered. However, she had buyers for two homes in foreclosure, had them in escrow, but they fell out after a couple months because the banks don't seem to have any sense of urgency to sell these foreclosed properties.

Why are they dragging their feet on these deals? Every month the homes sit vacant the banks are losing money.

BTW-I've seen some of these homes and some of them are just horrible. What is wrong with people that they feel the need to just trash a house because they can't make the payments? One I walked through recently had cabinet doors broken off the hinges and/or kicked in panels. Holes in the walls, doors with holes in them, broken windows and those windows boarded up. These are homes that would have sold for close to $600,000 just two years ago and are still worth $350,000...well, maybe not the thrashed ones.
 
that is where the bailout money is going, so why should the banks care how much they lose of our money, Congress will just give the bankers more of our money


this is why the gubberment should stay out of it, there is no incentive to do well
 
I looked at some forclosure homes in Pheonix in 2002, long before this whole crisis and it was the same thing. People just completely destroyed an otherwise very nice home. I was looking at homes in the $200-$250k price range. Carpets were ripped out, holes in the walls. Missing light switches. Piles of trash in the pool. Ect.

 
My parents went through the same thing with their place last year. They were trying to do a short sale and the bank dragged their feet for FOUR months before doing it (and how often do you find buyers willing to wait that long).
 
It may also be that they don't have to account for the loss on each of these houses until they actually sell them, so they are deferring the sale to defer the loss.
 
Why do people trash their houses? Probably because they know they're going to lose it and just don't give a shit. Sure, normal people like you and I would keep up on the house to the best of our ability and at least keep it clean, but I'm guessing a lot of people have the "fuck it, I'm going to lose it anyhow" mentality.
 
My brother is going through the same thing just north of Seattle. Bank foreclosure, house wasn't trashed, but in the middle of a reno that still reqires a lot of Work, the Deal is almost finalized, but the Seller just stopped responding to the Buyers Agent over the minor final points.
 
Originally posted by: Xanis
Why do people trash their houses? Probably because they know they're going to lose it and just don't give a shit. Sure, normal people like you and I would keep up on the house to the best of our ability and at least keep it clean, but I'm guessing a lot of people have the "fuck it, I'm going to lose it anyhow" mentality.

What kind of people are we raising these days...🙁

That's such a pathetic loser mentality. I despise anyone who would do something like that. :|
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Xanis
Why do people trash their houses? Probably because they know they're going to lose it and just don't give a shit. Sure, normal people like you and I would keep up on the house to the best of our ability and at least keep it clean, but I'm guessing a lot of people have the "fuck it, I'm going to lose it anyhow" mentality.

What kind of people are we raising these days...🙁

That's such a pathetic loser mentality. I despise anyone who would do something like that. :|

I fear its going to get much worse when when the free handouts stop.....
 
Wow, I thought I was the only one that experienced this. I almost lost a deposit on a house I was supposed to be buying last Oct and it fell out of escrow. I hopefully will be closing next week, but it seems like so many times the bank takes like two weeks to say, "Oops, we forgot to get [fill in blank]". Then the realtor I have been working with is told that I am the one who hasn't turned in all the information.
 
Originally posted by: Tsaico
Wow, I thought I was the only one that experienced this. I almost lost a deposit on a house I was supposed to be buying last Oct and it fell out of escrow. I hopefully will be closing next week, but it seems like so many times the bank takes like two weeks to say, "Oops, we forgot to get [fill in blank]". Then the realtor I have been working with is told that I am the one who hasn't turned in all the information.

bah reading stuff like this is scaring me. We were supposed to close this past monday but the seller made a typo on the deed and we couldn't close till they fixed it. They fixed it on tuesday but then they said they have to get the power of attorney doc from the courthouse before we can close. It's Friday now and we still haven't gotten the document from the seller. The lawyer from the title company asked will we be able to close next wednesday and they responded that she doesn't think so.

We already gave notice to our apt complex that we'd be out by the end of Jan. Now we're getting worried :/ The lawyer said all that we need is that one doc and we're good to go.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
that is where the bailout money is going, so why should the banks care how much they lose of our money, Congress will just give the bankers more of our money


this is why the gubberment should stay out of it, there is no incentive to do well

Since 1913 the banks and the government have been one in the same entity. Any appearance of separation is simply a parlor trick to keep people from complaining about the Constitution, which finds these types of relationships abhorrent and specifically proscribes them.

Since 1913 the US economy has been an entirely fake contrivance of the Federal Reserve system, which sets all the interest rates, authorizes all the printing and distribution of money, and creates all the rules governing how money can be used.

Prior to that time, each and every dollar you owned was "backed by gold" and could be directly exchanged for such ON DEMAND. Someone had the bright idea (clever idea), to convince the public via crooked whore politicians (redundant I know), that there was not enough gold. ROFL.

Despite the fact that the economy looks complicated and seems like it requires enormous oversight and management, this is simply not the case. A free market is a simply thing: People create wealth by working, and the amount of wealth is set by the supply and demand for end product of that particular work. Nothing else is required. If you think otherwise, you have been indoctrinated with lies, pure and simple.

If you think it requires a revolution to un-embed us from this nightmare of financial enslavement WE HAVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO, you are wrong. People simply need to wake up one day and decided that the Federal Government in its present form is entirely illegal, and simply abolish most every aspect of it via law.

John Lennon asked everyone to imagine a world without God. I ask you to imagine a world without the any of the 100s of federal government agencies which suck away our and mismanage our money and tell us how to live. Free to do as you're told is not free.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
BTW-I've seen some of these homes and some of them are just horrible. What is wrong with people that they feel the need to just trash a house because they can't make the payments? One I walked through recently had cabinet doors broken off the hinges and/or kicked in panels. Holes in the walls, doors with holes in them, broken windows and those windows boarded up. These are homes that would have sold for close to $600,000 just two years ago and are still worth $350,000...well, maybe not the thrashed ones.

Wow... and I bet those people think they're so much better than trailer trash.
 
It's a rough time for realtors....

I think she needs nightly foot massages from her husband to help with the stress. 😀
 
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
If you think it requires a revolution to un-embed us from this nightmare of financial enslavement WE HAVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO, you are wrong. People simply need to wake up one day and decided that the Federal Government in its present form is entirely illegal, and simply abolish most every aspect of it via law.

People don't make laws, politicians do.
 
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Since 1913 the banks and the government have been one in the same entity. Any appearance of separation is simply a parlor trick to keep people from complaining about the Constitution, which finds these types of relationships abhorrent and specifically proscribes them.

There is nothing in the Constitution that proscribes them. Please point to the specific area. If you're talking about the ability of only Congress to print/coin money, then that is a bald faced lie and has been refuted many times and turned down by the Supreme Court repeatedly.

Since 1913 the US economy has been an entirely fake contrivance of the Federal Reserve system, which sets all the interest rates, authorizes all the printing and distribution of money, and creates all the rules governing how money can be used.

How is it a contrivance? Wealth is created, we are the world's wealthiest country, everybody knows it. We live fucking well compared to most other countries, it is impossible to deny this.

The open market sets interest rates. The Fed sets interest rates it charges banks in the system. If the Fed controlled interest rates, then why are credit card ABS bonds still pricing at 7% for a AAA 5-year? Why are mortgages still relatively high compared to treasuries? Why are risk spreads of almost all bonds at 20 year highs? I thought the Fed controlled it all?

Sorry, but the MARKET controlls interest rates, overall. SUpply, demand. The Fed can alter some of it, providing liquidity (or denying it) but it cannot change the market value of interest rates beyond the Fed Funds rates.

Prior to that time, each and every dollar you owned was "backed by gold" and could be directly exchanged for such ON DEMAND. Someone had the bright idea (clever idea), to convince the public via crooked whore politicians (redundant I know), that there was not enough gold. ROFL.

Wow, backed by gold. So we put our currency in the hands of those who could redeem our debt for gold. Too bad that almost ruined us in 1907. Nobody used gold before, exchanging it was stupid. When it comes down to it, gold is a floating commodity valued by the open market. Our currency is a floating commodity valued in the open market right now. net-net, not one fricking thing has changed.

Gold is a silly peg, it makes no sense, since it is deflationary in nature, way too vulnerable to attack, impossible to adapt economically, and puts us at risk to manipulation from foreign governments (they could trash the currency by flooding the market with gold, or witholding it).

There isn't enough gold to contain the world's wealth. It's impossible to do.

Despite the fact that the economy looks complicated and seems like it requires enormous oversight and management, this is simply not the case. A free market is a simply thing: People create wealth by working, and the amount of wealth is set by the supply and demand for end product of that particular work. Nothing else is required. If you think otherwise, you have been indoctrinated with lies, pure and simple.

Wow, simple life model for a simple mind. The "free market" is a sham. Even Adam Smith, among other people far smarter than me or you, recognized that there should NEVER be a free market. Why?

It's inherently abusive to those without capital, for those with capital. As more capital is accumulated at the top it becomes even more abusive. WHy? Because the people with capital can abuse the system, get away with it, and escape from the system before the market can react. There are thousands of cases like this throughout history. The government is needed to prevent those cases to the best of their abilities.

We had a "free market" system in the 1800s and it screwed people over. There's a reason why they were called Robber Barrons.

If you think it requires a revolution to un-embed us from this nightmare of financial enslavement WE HAVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO, you are wrong. People simply need to wake up one day and decided that the Federal Government in its present form is entirely illegal, and simply abolish most every aspect of it via law.

John Lennon asked everyone to imagine a world without God. I ask you to imagine a world without the any of the 100s of federal government agencies which suck away our and mismanage our money and tell us how to live. Free to do as you're told is not free.


Again, prove why the Federal Government is illegal.

Imagine a world where people who posted bullshit FUDD didn't exist. Perhaps we'd actually be more rational in our economic decisions.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
My wife is a Realtor and despite the downturn she has done rather well this year, all things considered. However, she had buyers for two homes in foreclosure, had them in escrow, but they fell out after a couple months because the banks don't seem to have any sense of urgency to sell these foreclosed properties.

Why are they dragging their feet on these deals? Every month the homes sit vacant the banks are losing money.

BTW-I've seen some of these homes and some of them are just horrible. What is wrong with people that they feel the need to just trash a house because they can't make the payments? One I walked through recently had cabinet doors broken off the hinges and/or kicked in panels. Holes in the walls, doors with holes in them, broken windows and those windows boarded up. These are homes that would have sold for close to $600,000 just two years ago and are still worth $350,000...well, maybe not the thrashed ones.

Overall, banks are doing much more due diligence.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
It's a rough time for realtors....

I think she needs nightly foot massages from her husband to help with the stress. 😀

Or at least from someone...
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
I looked at some forclosure homes in Pheonix in 2002, long before this whole crisis and it was the same thing. People just completely destroyed an otherwise very nice home. I was looking at homes in the $200-$250k price range. Carpets were ripped out, holes in the walls. Missing light switches. Piles of trash in the pool. Ect.

i went to school with a guy whos dad remodeled foreclosed homes for insurance companies. he made bank cleaning them up for resale.
 
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