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So my kid's report card comes home . . .

episodic

episodic

Lifer
2 A's (Math Science)
2 F's (English, Social Studies)

How can a kid flunk English when he speaks it?

Sigh


(5th grade btw). . .


His reply was - "but they were high F's"


Sigh again . . .

But then again I want to be proud of him for the A's - what a dilemna. . .
 
Sometimes I think they waste too much time teaching weird stuff to kids in school. I have brief recollections of participles, gerunds, etc. - and I write reasonably well, but have no clue what they mean.

Why don't they teach kids phonics, spelling, vocabulary, and writing - is that not what is important?
 
Your kid doesn't know how to BS. Errr wait, that skill doesn't come in handy in 5th grade. You don't start that until 9th.
 
Are you sure it's a good idea to start analyzing the flaws of the education system in order to excuse your kid's "F"ailures?
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Sometimes I think they waste too much time teaching weird stuff to kids in school. I have brief recollections of participles, gerunds, etc. - and I write reasonably well, but have no clue what they mean.

Why don't they teach kids phonics, spelling, vocabulary, and writing - is that not what is important?
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They don't really teach that either. Phonics, spelling, vocab and writing aren't teachable beyond the most elementary level. It can only come from practice, and quite frankly our culture lately abhors all of these things, so only a select few get that practice.
 
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Are you sure it's a good idea to start analyzing the flaws of the education system in order to excuse your kid's "F"ailures?
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Why not question it?

He articulates well, has a great vocabulary - blows away their 'Standardized Test Scores" in reading and spelling, etc. . . - so if he does all of that how does he get an F (yes he does his homework nightly). . .


Keep in mind there was straight A's in Math and Science (which both require reading and writing as well). . .


I'm just trying to understand it - not justify it. . .

I know he has to conform to some degree and get with the 'program'. . .
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Are you sure it's a good idea to start analyzing the flaws of the education system in order to excuse your kid's "F"ailures?
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Why not question it?

He articulates well, has a great vocabulary - blows away their 'Standardized Test Scores" in reading and spelling, etc. . . - so if he does all of that how does he get an F (yes he does his homework nightly). . .


Keep in mind there was straight A's in Math and Science (which both require reading and writing as well). . .
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Call. The. Teacher. There's somthing up and you need to get your head out of your butt and find out what it is. And don't go blaming the damn teacher until it's clear that it's their fault.

Jesus, why do I have to say these things? I work for a school and I'm pretty sure it's across-the-board policy for elementary schools to establish open lines of communication with parents.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Are you sure it's a good idea to start analyzing the flaws of the education system in order to excuse your kid's "F"ailures?
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Why not question it?

He articulates well, has a great vocabulary - blows away their 'Standardized Test Scores" in reading and spelling, etc. . . - so if he does all of that how does he get an F (yes he does his homework nightly). . .


Keep in mind there was straight A's in Math and Science (which both require reading and writing as well). . .
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Call. The. Teacher. There's somthing up and you need to get your head out of your butt and find out what it is. And don't go blaming the damn teacher until it's clear that it's their fault.

Jesus, why do I have to say these things? I work for a school and I'm pretty sure it's across-the-board policy for elementary schools to establish open lines of communication with parents.
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Lots of hostility?

Sorry - I'm not blaming anyone - just sharing an experince. . .

I'm not mad at anyone - just curious - mainly wanting other parent's reactions. I'll talk to his teacher? Blame her? No!

Blame him? YES!

Sheesh calm down - I was just having an aside about the curriculum today - not the teachers. I'm smart enough to realize there is a state mandated curriculum 😛
 
Don't worry too much about it. I wasn't too interested in school when I was in 5th grade either. If he's at all like me, they'll stay lowish through middle school and then shoot up in high school (I was a C/D student in Middle School and left High School with a 3.8 or so GPA)

Looks like he's at least somewhat interested in Math and Science, keep him focused on that. I wasn't making those kinds of grades in 5th grade...

-Kabob

P.S. Yeah, this is why I'm not a psychology major...I tend to ramble...
 
Originally posted by: kabob983
Don't worry too much about it. I wasn't too interested in school when I was in 5th grade either. If he's at all like me, they'll stay lowish through middle school and then shoot up in high school (I was a C/D student in Middle School and left High School with a 3.8 or so GPA)

Looks like he's at least somewhat interested in Math and Science, keep him focused on that. I wasn't making those kinds of grades in 5th grade...

-Kabob

P.S. Yeah, this is why I'm not a psychology major...I tend to ramble...
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Yea at least he is passing math and science - good jobs tend to be based on that.

😛
 
episodic...

Maybe your child has a hard time comprehending? Or what about decoding or encoding words? Regardless something is out of whack and I'd get my butt down to the school and I would have a discussion with his teacher.

good luck.
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Are you sure it's a good idea to start analyzing the flaws of the education system in order to excuse your kid's "F"ailures?
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Why not question it?

He articulates well, has a great vocabulary - blows away their 'Standardized Test Scores" in reading and spelling, etc. . . - so if he does all of that how does he get an F (yes he does his homework nightly). . .


Keep in mind there was straight A's in Math and Science (which both require reading and writing as well). . .
Click to expand...

Call. The. Teacher. There's somthing up and you need to get your head out of your butt and find out what it is. And don't go blaming the damn teacher until it's clear that it's their fault.

Jesus, why do I have to say these things? I work for a school and I'm pretty sure it's across-the-board policy for elementary schools to establish open lines of communication with parents.
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Lots of hostility?

Sorry - I'm not blaming anyone - just sharing an experince. . .

I'm not mad at anyone - just curious - mainly wanting other parent's reactions. I'll talk to his teacher? Blame her? No!

Blame him? YES!

Sheesh calm down - I was just having an aside about the curriculum today - not the teachers. I'm smart enough to realize there is a state mandated curriculum 😛
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Looks like the question about the F in english has been answered. 😛
 
Beat him senseless. It will bring those Math and Science grades down so they're more consistent, and at least you'll have an explanation.
 
good thing its not the other way around

IMO math/ science skills are more important to english skills (at an early age of course)

 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
good thing its not the other way around

IMO math/ science skills are more important to english skills (at an early age of course)
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I disagree with you, I would think that English skills would be the most important things to learn. I see a ton of Baby Your Baby commercials and the like where they advise to start reading to your kids at a very early age. Obviously they can't understand it, but the earlier you start the quicker they learn. And also, when you become an adult or a young adult, having good grammar and speaking skills far outweigh the fact you can do derivatives and integrals out in the real world. Put yourself in a job interviewers position, would you rather have someone that can do math or someone that can communicate without looking like a fool? Just my $.02!
 
Originally posted by: sward666
Beat him senseless. It will bring those Math and Science grades down so they're more consistent, and at least you'll have an explanation.
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FUN FUN!! Got a chuckle or two out of that one.

But seriously, you're right. Most of the high paying jobs nowadays require adeptness (if that's a word...yeah, I'm bad at English too...) in Math or Science. Keep him interested and you can reap the benefits from him long after you've retired. Just kidding! But yeah, the fact that he's doing well in those should be taken as a good sign.

-Kabob
 
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