So my daughter took a $15,452.00 chopper ride.

[Analog]

wow, I hope things work out!

 

[WT]

heh, reading the thread title, I thought, hmmm, musta been one sweet Harley that Orange County built for her !!!!

Good to hear she's doing better though.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: js1973

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
If you were uninsured the bill would be even more. It's little-known that hospitals charge uninsured people increased rates than insured persons.

Really? I would have thought the opposite would be true.

Nope, inusrance carriers will only pay so much per procedure so they basically set the rates and doctors and hospitals make up for it by charging uninsured people quite a bit more. Healthcare has become nothing but a huge scam. Tell me how a helicopter ride and a week in the hospital SHOULD cost $65K? It shouldn't and that is why the current system is completely messed up.

Cost of pilot on hand at all times?
Cost of helicopter?
Cost af maintaining helicopter?
All that vs. the number of people that actually need the Helicopter?
Cost of maintaining a clean enviroment?
Cost of state of the art equipment?
Cost of doctors?
Cost of nurses?
Cost of nurses aids?
Cost of insurance?
Cost of hospital maintenance?
Cost of building?
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Needing to make everything profitable after all that so people will want to save lives?

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Wow... I guess I take medical bills for granted here in Canada... we never see a bill for anything... (well, I haven't)

Glad your daughter is fine though.

:roll: You see a bill every paycheck.

 

[simms]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Wow... I guess I take medical bills for granted here in Canada... we never see a bill for anything... (well, I haven't)

Glad your daughter is fine though.

:roll: You see a bill every paycheck.

No, not really.. All I have deducted is CPP (Pension) and EI (Employment Insurance).

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: xaeniac

Originally posted by: js1973

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
If you were uninsured the bill would be even more. It's little-known that hospitals charge uninsured people increased rates than insured persons.

Really? I would have thought the opposite would be true.

That's bull.... Uninsured costs less if you go to the doctor than insured. My friend has a high deductible and went to a chiropractor. It was 150-200 a visit for a visit if you were insured. 50 flat if u do not have insurance. He decided to go @ the uninsured rate.

For that cost, I'd go with the uninsured rate also.

However, I think the chiropractor is a much smaller operation than a hospital. I also have the feeling that they try to milk the insurance companies.

I know that for the 10 weeks that I went to the chiropractor (after my car accident), it cost $9,000. 3 visits a week X 10 weeks = 30 total visits. That's $300 a visit for them to put that electro-thing machine on me for 8 minutes and then crack my back.

I don't think the service I received from the chiropractor was worth the $9,000.

If I had known it cost that much, I probably wouldn't have gone in the first place.

 

[js1973]

One interesting sidenote:

While in the PICU, a nurse would beat on my daughter's chest and back with this rubbery cup shaped thing. Doing this would break up the congestion(?) in her chest so she could cough it up more easily.

Well, one nurse was doing this when another said "Maybe it would help her if we gave her <some medical term I can't remember>? I'll go get a vibrator." She ran off and returned a few minutes later with a rather phallic looking device that hummed like an industrial power tool. I said "That's funny. They make the medical vibrators look just like the, er, commercial models. I would think they'd at least put an Aesculpaian staff symbol on the side" To which she replied "Oh, this comes out of a box with a picture of a hoochie mama (her term, not mine) on the side." A period of awkward silence followed this exchange.

 

[AdamSnow]

Originally posted by: simms

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Wow... I guess I take medical bills for granted here in Canada... we never see a bill for anything... (well, I haven't)

Glad your daughter is fine though.

:roll: You see a bill every paycheck.

No, not really.. All I have deducted is CPP (Pension) and EI (Employment Insurance).

Same here... heh

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: js1973
One interesting sidenote:

While in the PICU, a nurse would beat on my daughter's chest and back with this rubbery cup shaped thing. Doing this would break up the congestion(?) in her chest so she could cough it up more easily.

Well, one nurse was doing this when another said "Maybe it would help her if we gave her <some medical term I can't remember>? I'll go get a vibrator." She ran off and returned a few minutes later with a rather phallic looking device that hummed like an industrial power tool. I said "That's funny. They make the medical vibrators look just like the, er, commercial models. I would think they'd at least put an Aesculpaian staff symbol on the side" To which she replied "Oh, this comes out of a box with a picture of a hoochie mama (her term, not mine) on the side." A period of awkward silence followed this exchange.

ROFL.

Edit: I guess that makes vibrators medical equipment.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: js1973
One interesting sidenote:

While in the PICU, a nurse would beat on my daughter's chest and back with this rubbery cup shaped thing. Doing this would break up the congestion(?) in her chest so she could cough it up more easily.

Well, one nurse was doing this when another said "Maybe it would help her if we gave her <some medical term I can't remember>? I'll go get a vibrator." She ran off and returned a few minutes later with a rather phallic looking device that hummed like an industrial power tool. I said "That's funny. They make the medical vibrators look just like the, er, commercial models. I would think they'd at least put an Aesculpaian staff symbol on the side" To which she replied "Oh, this comes out of a box with a picture of a hoochie mama (her term, not mine) on the side." A period of awkward silence followed this exchange.

LOL! 😀 At least you kept your sense of humor through the ordeal.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: js1973
The day before easter my 1½ year old daughter was overcome by athsma and a virus that somehow developed into pneumonia and we rushed her to emergency. She was working hard to breathe and the doctor at the ER immediately called UofM to have a helicopter come pick her up. The fire department came out to the emergency clinic to block off a portion of the parking lot to serve as a landing pad (which was cool but I was too busy worrying to appreciate the coordination). Anyway, they take her to Mott's children's hospital where she spends 6 days in the pediatric intensive care unit ($3300 dollars a day) and 2 days in a regular room. She got dischared with 6 different prescriptions and is doing excellent as of today.

The grand total on the bill we received Saturday is $65,842.16. I have no idea how much of this insurance will cover/how much we will pay, but that dollar amount kind of freaks me out. I don't need this kind of drama in my life. I think I may have accelerated my hair loss with this episode. 🙁

OMG! That is scary as hell! I'm glad she's doing better though.

🙁

 

[Doboji]

It's worth every penny though isn't it?

 

[Kev]

:Q

 

[js1973]

Originally posted by: Doboji
It's worth every penny though isn't it?

Of course. We wouldn't have done anything different if we could go back. We had no choice.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Doboji
It's worth every penny though isn't it?

And herein lies the problem.

You can't put a dollar figure on your daughter, so they can charge you an arm and a leg.

 

[eakers]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Wow... I guess I take medical bills for granted here in Canada... we never see a bill for anything... (well, I haven't)

Glad your daughter is fine though.

:roll: You see a bill every paycheck.

Its funny how anti socialised healthcare americans are and how anti private healthcare canadians are.

In any case, I'm glad I live in a country where I know that no matter what my employment status is I'll be able to get healthcare and not be burdened with thousands of dollars of debt.

edit: sorry for that, I'm glad to hear your daughter is okay!

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: js1973
One interesting sidenote:

While in the PICU, a nurse would beat on my daughter's chest and back with this rubbery cup shaped thing. Doing this would break up the congestion(?) in her chest so she could cough it up more easily.

Well, one nurse was doing this when another said "Maybe it would help her if we gave her <some medical term I can't remember>? I'll go get a vibrator." She ran off and returned a few minutes later with a rather phallic looking device that hummed like an industrial power tool. I said "That's funny. They make the medical vibrators look just like the, er, commercial models. I would think they'd at least put an Aesculpaian staff symbol on the side" To which she replied "Oh, this comes out of a box with a picture of a hoochie mama (her term, not mine) on the side." A period of awkward silence followed this exchange.

Vibrators were initially used as medical devices BY DOCTORS to cure female "hysteria."

There's a book written on the topic.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease

Originally posted by: js1973
One interesting sidenote:

While in the PICU, a nurse would beat on my daughter's chest and back with this rubbery cup shaped thing. Doing this would break up the congestion(?) in her chest so she could cough it up more easily.

Well, one nurse was doing this when another said "Maybe it would help her if we gave her <some medical term I can't remember>? I'll go get a vibrator." She ran off and returned a few minutes later with a rather phallic looking device that hummed like an industrial power tool. I said "That's funny. They make the medical vibrators look just like the, er, commercial models. I would think they'd at least put an Aesculpaian staff symbol on the side" To which she replied "Oh, this comes out of a box with a picture of a hoochie mama (her term, not mine) on the side." A period of awkward silence followed this exchange.

Vibrators were initially used as medical devices BY DOCTORS to cure female "hysteria."

There's a book written on the topic.

LMFAO!

I can just imagine how that went ..

 

[js1973]

Originally posted by: eakers

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Wow... I guess I take medical bills for granted here in Canada... we never see a bill for anything... (well, I haven't)

Glad your daughter is fine though.

:roll: You see a bill every paycheck.

Its funny how anti socialised healthcare americans are and how anti private healthcare canadians are.

In any case, I'm glad I live in a country where I know that no matter what my employment status is I'll be able to get healthcare and not be burdened with thousands of dollars of debt.

edit: sorry for that, I'm glad to hear your daughter is okay!

It would be nice to not have medical bills as a worry. I think most Americans are afraid of what a socialised system might mean to the quality of health care they are used to.

 

[FlyLice]

life/health > money

 

[Leper Messiah]

where in michigan? I probably saw that thing fly by...

 

[js1973]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
where in michigan? I probably saw that thing fly by...

Canton at the Oakwood health care center on Canton Center and Warren.

 

[eakers]

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease

Originally posted by: js1973
One interesting sidenote:

While in the PICU, a nurse would beat on my daughter's chest and back with this rubbery cup shaped thing. Doing this would break up the congestion(?) in her chest so she could cough it up more easily.

Well, one nurse was doing this when another said "Maybe it would help her if we gave her <some medical term I can't remember>? I'll go get a vibrator." She ran off and returned a few minutes later with a rather phallic looking device that hummed like an industrial power tool. I said "That's funny. They make the medical vibrators look just like the, er, commercial models. I would think they'd at least put an Aesculpaian staff symbol on the side" To which she replied "Oh, this comes out of a box with a picture of a hoochie mama (her term, not mine) on the side." A period of awkward silence followed this exchange.

Vibrators were initially used as medical devices BY DOCTORS to cure female "hysteria."

There's a book written on the topic.

"I'm feeling a bit hysterical, I need the afternoon off work for some medical treatment"

sounds good to me!

 

[destined]

god forbid, you daughter died, you would be saying how much you would pay to have her back just for a moment. so just be grateful for what you do have. money will come and go but your daughter is the most important thing in the world.

good luck with the bill :x

 

[Joemonkey]

isn't medical bills one of the leading causes of bankruptcy?