So much for the LAN Party...

Apotherix

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My friends and I have 3 computers, an 8-port switch, Windows XP Pro all. I installed every service, protocol, and client that Xp had available, and I can access everyone's files just fine, I can see them and everything, but when we get into a game, I cannot see the games they created, and they can't see mine, from counterstrike to battlefield 1942: desert combat .3

I assigned everybody IP addresses in the following manner: 10.0.0.1, 10.0.0.2, 10.0.0.3, etc, and I set the subnet masks on everbody's to 255.0.0.0

What do I need to do? We all got new machines and we are itching to unleash our power on each other. I feel like I'm missing some simple thing that I shoukd be doing.

Help please!!!
 

Electric Amish

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Sorry, I was wrong...

The reason you can access all the files is due to Windows XP autmatically running the NetBeui protocol.

I would recommend using 192.168.5.x with a subnet of 255.255.255.0

amish
 

Confused

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I believe those are bad IP addresses. You can't have Zeros (0).

The reason you can access all the files is due to Windows XP autmatically running the NetBeui protocol.

Use 192.168.5.x with a subnet of 255.255.255.0

amish

You can have those IP addresses, I am running them at home right now.

One thing you may wish to check is that you are setting up the games as a LAN game, not an internet game.


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thorin

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Can you ping them? Can they ping you? And your subnet should be 255.255.255.0 (Why search 16 million + addresses when you only need to search 255?)

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Apotherix

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Okay, I'll try that subnet, and what about the IP address?

Is 192.168.x.253 a good one? Or 192.168.5.x? I'm getting conflicting solutions.

And what about the gateway and DNS server and stuff? What do I put in there?
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Apotherix
Okay, I'll try that subnet, and what about the IP address?

Is 192.168.x.253 a good one? Or 192.168.5.x? I'm getting conflicting solutions.

And what about the gateway and DNS server and stuff? What do I put in there?

Gateway and DNS aren't really needed unless you are sharing an internet connection or have a network setup with a domain.

amish
 

Apotherix

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Apotherix
Okay, I'll try that subnet, and what about the IP address?

Is 192.168.x.253 a good one? Or 192.168.5.x? I'm getting conflicting solutions.

And what about the gateway and DNS server and stuff? What do I put in there?

Gateway and DNS aren't really needed unless you are sharing an internet connection or have a network setup with a domain.

amish

So can I just leave them blank?
 

AndyHui

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NetBEUI? This is not supported by Windows XP.
 
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1) The 10.0.0.x range is fine.
2) Subnet should be 255.255.255.0
3) If you can't see each other's games, just specify IP.

- M4H
 

AndyHui

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Originally posted by: Apotherix
Is it even relevant to the question? What is Netbui anyway?
This was in regards to Amish's post.

Try M4H's suggestions.
 
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Originally posted by: AndyHui
Originally posted by: Apotherix
Is it even relevant to the question? What is Netbui anyway?
This was in regards to Amish's post.

Try M4H's suggestions.

:D

Might I add:

4) Check your cables

Both to see if they work, and if they're plugged in. ;)
Edit - Also, make sure no one's feeding off the switch's uplink port. A machine in the wrong place can give your network a lotta hurt. :p

- M4H
 

Apotherix

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
1) The 10.0.0.x range is fine.
2) Subnet should be 255.255.255.0
3) If you can't see each other's games, just specify IP.

- M4H

How exactly do you specify the IP address for a game?
And do most games use the TCP/IP protocol or IPX?
 
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Originally posted by: Apotherix
How exactly do you specify the IP address for a game?

There's always an option in every decent game to specify. It varies. Most FPS games have a console option to manually connect, or a button to "Specify Server."

And do most games use the TCP/IP protocol or IPX?
TCP/IP, UDP protocol for most.

- M4H

 

Apotherix

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Me and my friend tryed to test the network on games like Delta Force: Black Hawk Down and Desert Combat, but they still aren't showing up. I set all the subnet masks to 255.255.255.0, and I set the IP addresses to 192.168.x.253, and put just 1 and 2 in for the x. So what am I doing wrong? Now I can't even get file sharing to work. I just tried to use the auto IP address thing a couple of times, and noe dice either.
 

Apotherix

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I also tried setting the gateway and DNS server to match the IP address of the host, but that didn't affect anthing either.
 

thorin

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Did you ensure that MS Firewall is turned off (as previously suggested)? CAN YOU PING OTHER SYSTEMS ON THE NETWORK?

Thorin
 

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NetBEUI is supported in winxp, you just have to install it off the cd. Let me just throw in my 2cents if I can. You only need file and printer sharing, TCP/IP, and IPX/SPX installed for lan gaming. When setting up the network make sure everyone is in the same workgroup, subnet should be 255.255.255.0 and your first ip addresses should work, along with 192.168.1.x will work as well and is default ip addresses that windows uses. Here is the netbeui install for those that need it...
Insert the Windows XP CD-ROM into the CD-ROM drive.
Navigate to the Valueadd\MSFT\Net\NetBEUI folder.
Copy Nbf.sys to the %SYSTEMROOT%\System32\Drivers directory.
Copy Netnbf.inf to the %SYSTEMROOT%\Inf hidden directory.
Click [Start] [Control Panel] and double-click [Network Connections] .
Right-click the adapter where NetBEUI is to be added then click Properties .
On [General] tab, click Install .
Click [Protocol] then click [Add] .
Select NetBEUI Protocol from the list and then click OK .
Restart computer if prompted.
NetBEUI should be installed and functional

Just my 2 cents let me know if it helps at all.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR
start->run->"cmd"<enter>
"ping (domain name or ip address) <enter>"

Yeah, like if you want to ping another computer with the IP address of 192.168.0.90, type this in the Command console:
ping 192.168.0.90
If it gets a reply, then TCP/IP is working. If it times out, something about the basic TCP/IP setup is messed up.
What's the hub/switch being used? I assume that all the lights are on for connected cables?