So maybe F@H isn't for me

bluestrobe

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I've been reading the DC forum for awhile now and realize I can't even compare to the systems people have running F@H. I do this mainly as something to tinker with and run somewhat slower, outdated systems. F@H cores run very slow and long on my older systems. I'll list the cruncher systems to give people an idea:

600mhz Celeron/128mb ram (cruncher only)
700mhz Celeron/512mb ram (cruncher only)
333mhz P2/384mb ram (FTP server and cruncher)
2.66ghz P4/512mb ram (g/f's computer, mild gaming and internet)
AMD +3000/1gb ram (my computer, gaming and web)
AMD 1.1ghz/512 ram (family use, little to no web traffic)

I got a couple of PM's telling me to shelve anything older than 1ghz and to build/upgrade faster systems to help out the team. That is not possible. Is there some other crunching work that would be a better effort/workload than F@H. I know its a dumb question but I hate guessing and misguiding effort.
 

MDE

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Those systems are FINE. The only one I'd consider taking offline is the P2, otherwise they are perfectly adequate for F@H.
 

bluestrobe

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The P2 is my ftp server which has to be up and running anyways. I figured its idle time could be used for something.
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: bluestrobe
The P2 is my ftp server which has to be up and running anyways. I figured its idle time could be used for something.

Could you use one of the Celerons for the FTP server? That would be one less box blowing heat in the summer.
 

Freewolf

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We would be happy to have you and your boxes crunching FaD.
We need all the help we can get.
 

Unforgiven

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i find that DPAD makes a nice project for minimal system specs if you are interested. FaD could also be something that could be run in a shorter timeframe and could still help find a potential cure for a disease like F@H :beer:
 

GLeeM

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Giving a bump

There will be more ideas coming from good people :)
 

jpunzel

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All of these systems are great for F@H. If all six are running often, you'll get results comparable to the more elaborate machines. Don't hesitate at all to use them. Even the P2 system will pump out a WU every week or two. Every little bit helps!
 

ProviaFan

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Ignore the people who try to convince you that anything slower than the absolute latest and greatest is not worth running (they'll try to make you feel guilty for not running their other pet project by saying that a slower machine holds back Stanford's research). I run a 500MHz Celeron (which is about as low as I'd go personally), but pretty much all of your machines (including the P2 if you set it to use no-deadline WUs aka Timeless TINKERS) are fine for F@H. Of course, you're welcome to switch to something else if you feel that you'd rather help in another area of scientific research, but don't switch just because your machines are too slow - because they aren't. :D
 

Malak

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I would say most would be fine, although you just won't get many points from the p2. There is a limit to how useful old hardware is, no matter what project you run.
 

bluestrobe

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Thanks for the advice folks. The P2 will get retired within a month as I have a dual 933mhz P3 system ready to go minus the registered PC133 ram it requires. I have the P2 setup for the timeless cores at the moment.
 

GLeeM

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bluestrobe, welcome to the TeAm, if you have any other questions or need any help, just ask :)
 

Insidious

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I think the authors of those PMs are NOT speaking for the majority of the F@H team :|

If you want to move on to something different.. that's totally cool, but to believe that we don't appreciate what you are donating is far from the truth.

To the authors of those PMs I would have to say.... get over yourselves and please don't pretend you speak for me when you suggest anyone is not helping or welcome at TeAm F@H.

-Sid
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: Insidious
I think the authors of those PMs are NOT speaking for the majority of the F@H team :|

If you want to move on to something different.. that's totally cool, but to believe that we don't appreciate what you are donating is far from the truth.

To the authors of those PMs I would have to say.... get over yourselves and please don't pretend you speak for me when you suggest anyone is not helping or welcome at TeAm F@H.

-Sid
Yep, we need every bit we can get. I only mentioned dumping the P2 because it just may not be worth the electricity to run it, but if it crunches we'll take it. :)
 

Wolfsraider

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heck If I could figure out how to get my watch crunching...

<-------looks around

Oops never mind :p

Mike
 

bluestrobe

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Since we are on the subject, are there any advantages of running f@h on Linux rather than a windows box? Just curious.
 

GLeeM

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Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Since we are on the subject, are there any advantages of running f@h on Linux rather than a windows box? Just curious.

They have a brand new core, only for Linux right now, that will have Bonus WUs. At least double points, maybe more. It is a small download, but you need at least 475 MB ram.
 

trevinom

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Originally posted by: Unforgiven
i find that DPAD makes a nice project for minimal system specs if you are interested. FaD could also be something that could be run in a shorter timeframe and could still help find a potential cure for a disease like F@H :beer:

F@H is not a disease, just and addiction, and a good addiction at that.

 

bluestrobe

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Originally posted by: GLeeM
Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Since we are on the subject, are there any advantages of running f@h on Linux rather than a windows box? Just curious.

They have a brand new core, only for Linux right now, that will have Bonus WUs. At least double points, maybe more. It is a small download, but you need at least 475 MB ram.

My 700 MHz Celeron system could have 768mb of ram if I wanted to. The problem is I'm not that fluent so if the core requires a few bits of programming to run, then I'm outta luck. I can setup Linux just fine; I just have a hard time doing extensive command line stuff. Might be worth a try.



 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: bluestrobe
My 700 MHz Celeron system could have 768mb of ram if I wanted to. The problem is I'm not that fluent so if the core requires a few bits of programming to run, then I'm outta luck. I can setup Linux just fine; I just have a hard time doing extensive command line stuff. Might be worth a try.
There's an easy-install script for F@H on Linux, which makes it relatively easy to get F@H up and running without a lot of init script editing et. al. Let me know if you're interested and I'll dig up a link. :)