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So, looks like the ps3 is completely hacked.

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Are there any national security issues with the PS3 being able to run unsigned code? Wasn't it at some point a prohibited to export PS3 consoles to certain countries because they were classified as more personal computers?
 
RedCOMET said:
Are there any national security issues with the PS3 being able to run unsigned code? Wasn't it at some point a prohibited to export PS3 consoles to certain countries because they were classified as more personal computers?
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No more so than there are in exporting any other kind of computer.
 
BD2003 said:
No more so than there are in exporting any other kind of computer.
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True. I just know PS3 are still low cost and are still relatively powerful.

Perhaps its only a matter of time before Sony pulls out the "But think of National Security" card. I could see it happening in order to enhance their legal position.
 
and do what exactly? keys are out, damage is done. no putting the genie back in the bottle, especially as the the rest of the world wouldn't give a crap about anything the US decides to try and do about it.

if anything, it might make more companies think about running ps3 clusters and further deteriorate the number of games sold:consoles
 
RedCOMET said:
Are there any national security issues with the PS3 being able to run unsigned code? Wasn't it at some point a prohibited to export PS3 consoles to certain countries because they were classified as more personal computers?
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I think when PS3 was first released it wasn't allowed to be sold in China because the US gov didn't want the Chinese getting that tech.

Also I remember a branch of the US gov bought a bunch of PS3s for some special purpose. So that could become a weak point for them if they have their PS3s connected to some kind of network.
 
Sadaiyappan said:
I think when PS3 was first released it wasn't allowed to be sold in China because the US gov didn't want the Chinese getting that tech.

Also I remember a branch of the US gov bought a bunch of PS3s for some special purpose. So that could become a weak point for them if they have their PS3s connected to some kind of network.
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Wat?

The airforce has a cluster of PS3's, but how in the world is it a weak point if they are connected to the network?
 
crazySOB297 said:
The airforce has a cluster of PS3's, but how in the world is it a weak point if they are connected to the network?
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Just wondering, those PS3s still have the other OS functionality when the Air Force started using them, or where they modified in some other fashion in order for the AF to use them?

Have they ever been updated? or did the Air force just leave some unpatched PS3 up and running...
 
RedCOMET said:
Just wondering, those PS3s still have the other OS functionality when the Air Force started using them, or where they modified in some other fashion in order for the AF to use them?

Have they ever been updated? or did the Air force just leave some unpatched PS3 up and running...
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I doubt that after they boot linux the first time they ever see the XMB again to be updated. Sony may have also helped them out with custom firmware as well.
 
Pr0d1gy said:
Actually the precedent was already set by GeoHot's previous legal battle with Apple, which lead to the US making it a law that it was LEGAL to jailbreak/hack your iPhone.

Also, while I'm sure someone will find a way to pirate and ruin it, GeoHot specifically stated in his interview on G4 that he specifically made this hack to not run pirated software. Sony's claims are baseless and, once more, their is already a legal precedent put forth that shows that unlocking functionality on your hardware is legal and acceptable.

This should be a slam dunk case.
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Oh, I should have specified. I didn't mean excusable from a legal standpoint, but just an ethical standpoint. He is ruining many gamer's enjoyment of their machine.

It is quite sad.
 
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Dumac said:
Oh, I should have specified. I didn't mean excusable from a legal standpoint, but just an ethical standpoint. He is ruining many gamer's enjoyment of their machine.

It is quite sad.
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Not he personally, but the many thousands that will use it to run trainers and other anti-social multiplayer code on PSN now. Yeah I get that, but that isn't his fault. Each person makes a choice to cheat or not to cheat.

On a more personal note though, I am disappointed that this happened right before KZ3 and Socom 4 are set to release. That's really going to suck.
 
Ironic how both failoverflow and geohot both stated "Piracy was never our intention"

Breaking News: Your intention to unlock a pointless feature will lead to piracy.

My guess now is, about 5% of the people who will hack their PS3 will do it for linux.

95% will do it to play games illegally.

My true question is to the supporters of this situation...

Why the hell does anyone need linux on a PS3? Be completely honest and give me a valuable reason!

You got computers out there from 2006 that can run linux perfectly and you can find them on ebay for $200. You can even buy corporate refubs from TD for like $120 that are just as good.
 
RavenSEAL said:
Ironic how both failoverflow and geohot both stated "Piracy was never our intention"

Breaking News: Your intention to unlock a pointless feature will lead to piracy.

My guess now is, about 5% of the people who will hack their PS3 will do it for linux.

95% will do it to play games illegally.

My true question is to the supporters of this situation...

Why the hell does anyone need linux on a PS3? Be completely honest and give me a valuable reason!

You got computers out there from 2006 that can run linux perfectly and you can find them on ebay for $200. You can even buy corporate refubs from TD for like $120 that are just as good.
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Why does the reason matter? You should be able to mod whatever the hell you want to with your possessions.

To put it in a different light: Why are you overclocking your CPU? You can just buy a faster one.

It is a silly question.
 
GoSharks said:
Why does the reason matter? You should be able to mod whatever the hell you want to with your possessions.

To put it in a different light: Why are you overclocking your CPU? You can just buy a faster one.

It is a silly question.
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But overclocking my CPU doesn't lead to piracy nor cheating. Try again.
 
If it makes you feel any better, there aren't enough decent games on PS3 to warrant the non-effort involved to pirate. That better? 😛
 
GoSharks said:
It does lead to lowered revenue, which makes it awfully similar to piracy.
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Completely opposite as a matter of fact...

Don't you notice how overclockability actually sells units? There is a reason manufacturers sell chips with and without unlocked multipliers...
 
RavenSEAL said:
Completely opposite as a matter of fact...

Don't you notice how overclockability actually sells units? There is a reason manufacturers sell chips with and without unlocked multipliers...
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They have to sell the unlocked multiplier units for a higher cost to make up for the lost revenue from selling the chips which were binned higher. They do that because they used to lose revenue from everyone buying lower end chips and overclocking them.
 
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Dumac said:
Oh, I should have specified. I didn't mean excusable from a legal standpoint, but just an ethical standpoint. He is ruining many gamer's enjoyment of their machine.

It is quite sad.
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That's a pretty bold statement. As much as the hack interests me, truth be told, I'll probably be too lazy to even install it. And I don't find my enjoyment ruined, through granted I don't play online.
Still, I'd imagine those who bemoan or support this development are in the minority. I bet the majority doesn't care one way or another.

RavenSEAL said:
My true question is to the supporters of this situation...

Why the hell does anyone need linux on a PS3? Be completely honest and give me a valuable reason!
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Assuming we're ignoring groups like the air force who uses them in clusters...
I don't "need" linux on a ps3. I'd install linux because I'm a geek, and because I can. What would be more beneficial is being able to play more media files (as I understand the ps3 doesn't play nice with mkv) and to install games to hard drive (in the interests of load times, not piracy).
 
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