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IronWing

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In fact, she noted that the George W. Bush administration permitted ICANN to adopt .xxx into the root, despite arguments from the religious right that doing so would lead to the proliferation of Internet pornography.
What! Where?


My state just joined the lawsuit even though the AG admitted it was likely too late. I suppose more tax dollars down yet another grandstanding rathole. <== That's one messed up metaphor, that is.
 

Meghan54

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I was so hoping this was a post from John Connor saying he was going to stop using the internet. Social media suicide as south park puts it.

How disappointing.

Hope springs eternal, as they say. Unfortunately, the cuck John Connor will continue to hide behind his mommy's skirts after flicking booger after booger on this board.
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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You know you're a hysterical, fact-free, ignorant whackadoo when Mr. Noodlemummy has to correct you on your facts, Mr. Connor.
 

DrDoug

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breitbart and obozo in post = LOLdidn'tread!

I noticed that Frank Gaffney (AKA: Skeletor's brother) is quoted as if he's an expert on anything more than pants shitting...lol!

Intelligence fail.
 

sandorski

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The U.S. government has only had nominal control over ICANN for nearly two decades. Formally terminating the "oversight" of Commerce Department isn't changing anything and wouldn't make a difference anyway. This fear is akin to saying "OMG the Russians may get control of the Dewey Decimal System and then we won't be able to read books anymore!"

Have you seen the Russian alphabet? We'd never be able to find a book again!!!!
 

Atreus21

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As much as you guys like tearing into the OP, I think the concern over countries which take a baleful view of free speech gaining some real power over the dns root zone is a valid one.
 
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ivwshane

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As much as you guys like tearing into the OP, I think the concern over countries which take a baleful view of free speech gaining some real power over the dns root zone is a valid one.

Who's gaining real power over DNS or more specifically ICANN?
 

Atreus21

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Read the excerpt from the link I provided on page 1.

Under the existing structure, the government of each country that attends an ICANN meeting is allowed input in decisions but doesn’t have a vote. But the structure that would prevail if the IANA function was transferred to PTI would “allow all attending countries to have a vote, which would allow them to have more weight in the process,” Tews tells National Review. By allowing the IANA contract to expire and relinquishing its oversight authority, the federal government would thus give Russia and China direct influence over what is included in the root zone, a standardized file currently hosted by the U.S. that serves as the first step in the process of finding any particular website.
 

werepossum

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As much as you guys like tearing into the OP, I think the concern over countries which take a baleful view of free speech gaining some real power over the dns root zone is a valid one.
Certainly it's a valid concern, but there's also plenty of momentum in this country for censoring and/or controlling the Internet, from either the far left (e.g. no pornography, no criticism of Islam, no negative things said about political correctness's sacred cows) or the far right (e.g. no pornography, no promoting abortion, no cursing or alcohol adverts on Sunday.) Controlling free speech via Internet domains is not an exclusively foreign concept.
 

nickqt

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Unlike you, I have a life outside of this forum.
This is the kind of post that really shows just how absolutely delusional and idiotic you are, never mind the mind-numbingly terrible comprehension of the misleading Breitbart drivel.

You claim to have a life outside the forum.

Yet, you have 17,918 posts in less than 4 years.

The person you're claiming doesn't have a life outside the forums, has 5,866 posts in 11 years.

Here's a protip, chump:

Before regurgitating the garbage that Breitbart and other right wing propagandists shit into your skull, do a little bit of research to get a better grasp of the topic you're being misled about.

It's hilarious that you go and make fun of yourself in public like a good useful idiot, but it's killing this country.

You. You're killing this country.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Stop being a chump. For America.
 

agent00f

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This is about ICANN. It was supposed to be transitioned in 2000. Then they started up talks again to make plans for it to *really* move to a global oversight in 2014. This is *not* a new thing. And not something that very few people can actually even begin to understand other than "We good, other countries bad!".

That's hardly going to stop brietbart from blaming obama or whatever for it to the lowest common denominator.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Mr. Connor, I suggest you seek treatment at the nearest burn ward immediately. ...hot damn.
 

flexy

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I really didn't read too much on what is about to happen, I think it was ICANN putting "control" into UN hands (??), correct me if I am wrong. Here is the kicker: I trust the the UN FAR, FAR, FAAAAAAAR more than your American corporate criminals when it comes to true freedom and liberty here and as well as in other regards. Net Neutrality etc. comes to mind. All you guys do is waving flags and shout freedom and liberty, but what happens is often exactly the opposite, in the US.
 

brycejones

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The first war was a response to a direct and deliberate attack and needed to be fought. The second war was bullshit. But with the way Democrats spend money, does a war really cover up the fiscal irresponsibility? Besides, Congress was all Dem controlled during Bush's Admin. and then you have Barney Frank to thank for not regulating the GSE's which Mc Cain wanted. The bill to do so was shoot down by you guessed it, Democrats. Meanwhile the bubble burst. That was the catalysis. But there's another problem. Over regulation, high asinine corporate taxes of 35% and corporate inversion. All this needs to change or we WILL fail as a nation. A nation that makes nothing and has no jobs. Just look at Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, you name it. All Dem controlled and all a waist land. Trickle up my ass!

That's just not true. We still manufacture plenty, we just do it with fewer people. We have gotten more efficient. Unemployment is now at normal levels.

You know, I'm getting awfully tired of arguing with idiots. You do know that we import damn near everything? In fact, Long Beach has an excess of shipping containers because of all the China imports. They sell them to people making offices and what not out of shipping containers.

Anyway, I'm outta here. P&N is full of idiots.

The above is from another thread Connor ran out on....quoted to give some context.

You can only argue with an idiot for so long, dude.

Same stunt in this thread. You're such a thin skinned, incompetent hack. Now run off to your safe place.
 

Atreus21

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Certainly it's a valid concern, but there's also plenty of momentum in this country for censoring and/or controlling the Internet, from either the far left (e.g. no pornography, no criticism of Islam, no negative things said about political correctness's sacred cows) or the far right (e.g. no pornography, no promoting abortion, no cursing or alcohol adverts on Sunday.) Controlling free speech via Internet domains is not an exclusively foreign concept.

Free speech is more protected here than anywhere else in the world. I think the Internet has been allowed to flourish in part because of this.
 

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All the stakeholders are either private orgs or private companies based in Virginia (Verisign, etc.). To say China or Russia can edit the root zone file and restrict Internet freedoms for anyone but themselves is just jumping the credibility shark. Basically, if you agree with Ted Cruz on almost anything, you're likely a partisan turd. So don't be a partisan turd.
 

Atreus21

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All the stakeholders are either private orgs or private companies based in Virginia (Verisign, etc.). To say China or Russia can edit the root zone file and restrict Internet freedoms for anyone but themselves is just jumping the credibility shark. Basically, if you agree with Ted Cruz on almost anything, you're likely a partisan turd. So don't be a partisan turd.

I don't know much about how ICANN works, but if the below is true:

Under the existing structure, the government of each country that attends an ICANN meeting is allowed input in decisions but doesn’t have a vote. But the structure that would prevail if the IANA function was transferred to PTI would “allow all attending countries to have a vote, which would allow them to have more weight in the process,” Tews tells National Review. By allowing the IANA contract to expire and relinquishing its oversight authority, the federal government would thus give Russia and China direct influence over what is included in the root zone, a standardized file currently hosted by the U.S. that serves as the first step in the process of finding any particular website.

...then that is alarming. Are you telling me that companies and private organizations have more say in this than governments will when this happens?