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So lady found hanged with feet/hands bound and it's ruled a suicide?

Dang, she was a looker. And that's pretty retarded, weird too since the guy's kid died in the same house like 2 days before.

Clearly this is all completely normal.

Bremner said investigators told her that the child had been conducting a trick known as "planking," or lying horizontally in unusual locations, around the staircase when he fell. Planking is a fad popularized with photographs and videos online.
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Oh god if that's true I'm going to die laughing, fucking awesome.
 
Doesn't sound that unreasonable. Hang a noose near a ledge, tie hands together, jump through noose head-first. If people are going to make unfounded theories against the owner of the house I'll propose that she did this in hopes that he would be convicted of murder. Good thing that there are still cities that fight for men's rights and don't immediately assume all of them to be brutish women killers. I mean, really, who the hell would tie up and kill a naked woman in their own house in hopes that it looks like a suicide?
 
Couldn't she set up the noose. Then tie her feet. Then tie her hands, using her mouth too. Then step through to get her hands behind her back.

All she has to do then is hop up on the chair or whatever, put her head in the noose, and away she goes, and it looks like murder.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Doesn't sound that unreasonable. Hang a noose near a ledge, tie hands together, jump through noose head-first. If people are going to make unfounded theories against the owner of the house I'll propose that she did this in hopes that he would be convicted of murder. Good thing that there are still cities that fight for men's rights and don't immediately assume all of them to be brutish women killers. I mean, really, who the hell would tie up and kill a naked woman in their own house in hopes that it looks like a suicide?
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She must be a contortionist to be able to jump onto a noose with hands bound behind them along with their feet bound. Kinda like how people can kill themselves by jumping on knives 9 times...
 
LTC8K6 said:
Couldn't she set up the noose. Then tie her feet. Then tie her hands, using her mouth too. Then step through to get her hands behind her back.

All she has to do then is hop up on the chair or whatever, put her head in the noose, and away she goes, and it looks like murder.
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She might have done it so that there was no way of trying to struggle free once she hit the noose, but I don't want to pass judgement on whether it was murder or not I don't have all the evidence bared before me.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Doesn't sound that unreasonable. Hang a noose near a ledge, tie hands together, jump through noose head-first. If people are going to make unfounded theories against the owner of the house I'll propose that she did this in hopes that he would be convicted of murder. Good thing that there are still cities that fight for men's rights and don't immediately assume all of them to be brutish women killers. I mean, really, who the hell would tie up and kill a naked woman in their own house in hopes that it looks like a suicide?
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Someone that has the police in their pocket?
 
LTC8K6 said:
Couldn't she set up the noose. Then tie her feet. Then tie her hands, using her mouth too. Then step through to get her hands behind her back.

All she has to do then is hop up on the chair or whatever, put her head in the noose, and away she goes, and it looks like murder.
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Tie her hands behind her back?
 
Spouse and/or family member found body, then tied hands/feet so they can collect the insurance. Insurance doesn't pay out on suicide.
 
We had a similar case here 20 or so years ago. The wife of a local contractor was found with her hands tied behind her back and shot in the head with a rifle...The coroner ruled it suicide.
 
BoomerD said:
We had a similar case here 20 or so years ago. The wife of a local contractor was found with her hands tied behind her back and shot in the head with a rifle...The coroner ruled it suicide.
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She could have propped the rifle up before hand and pulled the trigger with her big toe.
 
Vic Vega said:
Spouse and/or family member found body, then tied hands/feet so they can collect the insurance. Insurance doesn't pay out on suicide.
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I was under the impression that suicide clauses usually have a time limit for not paying out (can't be within two years of signing or something like that).
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Doesn't sound that unreasonable. Hang a noose near a ledge, tie hands together, jump through noose head-first. If people are going to make unfounded theories against the owner of the house I'll propose that she did this in hopes that he would be convicted of murder. Good thing that there are still cities that fight for men's rights and don't immediately assume all of them to be brutish women killers. I mean, really, who the hell would tie up and kill a naked woman in their own house in hopes that it looks like a suicide?
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I hope you are being sarcastic.

Her hands was tied behind her back, her feet was bound, she was naked, and had a noose around her neck. A suicide note was found near the body, but it doesn't make sense.

Weird that in one statement that no suicide note were found and the next there were on.

The family want to see the investigation record of finger prints that the cops claimed that they have.

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Family Of Jonah Shacknai’s Girlfriend, Rebecca Zahau, Doesn’t Want Case Closed


The attorney also claimed to RadarOnline.com that the police have a cryptic note they claim is a suicide note, but the family does not believe it is Rebecca’s handwriting and she alleges that the police did not analyze other samples of her handwriting.
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Jonah Shacknai’s Girlfriend Rebecca Zahau Did NOT Kill Herself, She Was Murdered, Says Sister


“Things they said did not match and they said they had a text message on her phone that showed that she was very unhappy, but they didn’t even say if it was from her or from someone else, or if someone could have put it there.”
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Jonah Shacknai’s Girlfriend Left No Suicide Note Before Bizarre Hanging Incident

Cops are trying to determine if Rebecca's death was a suicide, or murder though. "No suicide note has been found. If Rebecca did indeed kill herself, she didn't leave a note," our source says.

The fact there isn't a note isn't necessarily out of the norm for people that kill themselves however. "Half of the time there is a suicide note. Its not uncommon to not have a note," a law enforcement source tells us.
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obviously need more details.

if her hands were loosely bound, with lots of extra material, and it had her saliva on the end...someone could obviously wager that she tied off the knot with her mouth.

if the shit's tied in a fucking boy scout knot with no extra rope, that would obviously have different implications.

geez, it's like you guys have never murdered anyone...
 
Rebecca Zahau suicide likely tied to boy's injuries, officials say

Her hands and feet had been loosely tied, and a noose was around her neck and tied to a second-story balcony, officials said.

Although how she killed herself may seem unusual, it is not unprecedented and there is no evidence that there was foul play, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore said at a Friday morning news conference.

Her fingerprints and DNA were the only ones found on the rope as well as the knife she used to cut it into pieces and place sections around her feet, hands and around her neck, Gore and other authorities said.
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This news clip indicated it was a suicide, but no mention of suicide note.

Below is San Diego Country Sherriff Bill Gore track record.

Sheriff Bill Gore Sworn In - San Diego Sheriff's Department

Bill Gore Is Poor Choice For San Diego Sheriff

Gore is a member of the “good old boys’ network” of San Diego political corruption. His personal friend, former Sheriff Bill Kolendar, jammed through Gore’s role as interim sheriff with full support of the San Diego County Board of Supervisors when Kolendar retired in 2009.

Bill Gore And Ruby Ridge Government Murders

More concerning, Gore’s record as an FBI employee is fraught with problems. He was the agent in charge for the Ruby Ridge FBI assault on Randy Weaver’s family that resulted in multiple fatalities, including the death by shooting of a mother holding a baby and a child shot in the back as he fled law enforcement gunfire. The government settled out of court with a $3.1 million award to Randy Weaver for the wrongful deaths of his wife and son.

Bill Gore And 9/11 Terrorists in San Diego

Gore was also involved in the failure of the FBI to apprehend 9/11 terrorists training in San Diego to use airplanes as manned flying bombs. An FBI informant working with the FBI San Diego office, of which Gore was in charge, was in contact with two of the terrorists. Yet the FBI missed the opportunity to catch them before they killed thousands. Gore claims there was no evidence of Al Qaeda activity in San Diego and that’s why his branch didn’t find any such evidence.

Bill Gore Deploys Military Crowd Control Weapons At Political Rallies

Even if you buy into Gore’s version of the San Diego 9/11 connection and dismiss the Ruby Ridge fatalities as being somebody else’s fault, look at Gore’s track record as interim sheriff. Gore has made it clear he values control and power, including the ability to inflict harm upon citizens at political events, more than he values his nominal role in protecting citizens.

Sheriff’s Court Services Role in Abusing Litigants

Even if you’re not a criminal, if you find yourself in San Diego family law courtroom you have reason to be afraid of Sheriff’s Department employees acting as the muscle for abusive judges such as Lisa Schall, Christine Goldsmith, and Lorna Alksne. The department provides bailiffs and court security. Yet judges like these are willing to misuse law enforcement to persecute people who anger them.

Schall Reprimanded for Abuse of Power

Schall is the family law judge who has been responsible for alleged misconduct in the divorce case of Cole Stuart and Lynn Stuart. While Cole Stuart professes to be shocked by her conduct in the courtroom, it isn’t anything new for her. Schall was reprimanded by the Commission on Judicial Performance for ordering a bailiff (a sheriff’s department deputy) to take a litigant into custody and jail her because she became upset in the courtroom during her family law case.

Bullying Citizens Upset With Family Law Courts

Judge Lorna Alksne, supervisor of family law judges in San Diego, is suspected of having acted in concert with Schall and/or Goldsmith, City Attorney Jan Goldsmith, the San Diego County Bar Association, and possibly others to set up Attorney Cole Stuart for arrest during a California Coalition for Families and Children (CCFC) protest against her corrupt courts.

Gore’s Connections To Bonnie Dumanis Are Disturbing

While certainly not all San Diego judges are abusive, biased, corrupt, and incompetent, the ones who aren’t becomes targets for the diseased San Diego political machine. Some of them are under attack from law enforcement elements such as Bonnie Dumanis and her prosecutors that hide exculpatory evidence in violation of the law because they have dared to cite and oppose the illegal actions of the District Attorney’s office.

Gore worked for Dumanis after he retired from the FBI and is likely to side with well-connected abusers like Dumanis over the citizens he is supposed to protect. Having a sheriff like Gore who clearly has no regard for citizen’s rights makes it all the more likely that courts using law enforcement as a tool to persecute their opponents and anybody else they dislike will be a recurring outcome of the corrupt San Diego courts. Citizens should not have to fear law enforcement violating their rights, yet Gore has done this himself with deadly effect and is aligned with others who do it for political purposes.

Citizens Speak Out Against Gore

As shown by our “further reading” links below, there are many aware of Bill Gore’s record that are opposing his continuing role as sheriff.

Craigslist “Rants N Raves” shows that even common citizens have started to point out that Bill Gore is a poor choice for sheriff. While some of the writers there engage in childish bickering and worse, it’s clear that at least some who are aware of the impending vote are very much against electing Bill Gore as shown by this example posting:
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gothamhunter said:
Sounds like he has enough money to pay-off anyone who disagrees.
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sure looks like it too:

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