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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.
 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.

The study linked asked general questions. They weren't given a pen and paper and asked to answer a few open-ended questions.

And as Jon says in that Cspan interview linked, they make huge assumptions that people, for the most part, already know the story so that they really don't have to inform anyone on any of it (I.e. so they can stick to pure commentary).
 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.

You can't compare Stewart's show to anything else out there on television. Unlike O'Reilly, Hannity, and the others he does not ever claim to be infallible and correct. He pokes fun and makes humour out of our pathetic government. It just so happens that Republicans are in control of the Senate, House, and White House.......so it's only natural that they will be bashed the most. Also, they are the ones making egregious mistakes left and right, so it's not like he's going out of his way to target them. Conservatives like you just like to clump all dissenters into the Michael Moore category.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

Get this through please:

Its a comedy show. It does not pretend to be educational, informative or pious. Its supposed to be funny, a different and absurd twist on the stories of the day. They frequently pan out and show the "reporter" standing 3 feet away from Jon. Its commentary at its best and so what if its biased?

I think Jon said it best when he said (and I paraphrase here) "Its on a network where the star show has a talking turd". He also (in his interview with C-Span) mentioned that his view (of the studies) is that people know whats going on in the world and then tune into his show to catch the distortion that he creates. Most of his jokes would fall flat if the viewer had no idea whats going on in the world.

I happen to watch the show regularly and when school was in session, I watched it in groups of up to 10 college students. Most of them knew what was going on in the news before the show even started. Think of the Daily Show as the comics section of a newspaper and you might enjoy it more.

EDIT - If you watch his show, he regularly rips on the Democrats for being spineless. Yes he supported Kerry but do you have any idea how many jokes he has made at his expense?
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Skiguy411
The daily show is a circle jerk for democrats to bash bush.

It's a COMEDY fake news show. People take that show way too seriously.

And I suggest you pay more attention, Jon Stewart has been bashing Dems a LOT lately. Even some humorless assclown such as yourself would probably enjoy it.

Nah, try again. For many people, it is their major source of news. So what they see on the show they take it as being a fact. It might be comedy and it might be fake, but it is powerful. Yes, I'm a humorless assclown because I **may** have said something about somebody. Learn to read posts properly and not assume. As for the personal attacks, why are you bringing your P&N crap here? Leave it over there with your buddies.


major source of news..just because you say so? i say you are wrong
 
Also, if you think this was a roast, he practically burned the author of this book alive when he was on the show. I still remember it because he was superb. If he really wants to, he knows how to tear someone a new one.
 
We know it is a comedy show. The little logo that appears on the bottom right of the screen shows that. This show is a bit different than your Crank Yankers, and Reno 911s. People actually do take this show seriously compared to the other programs. I said before that for some people, this is their major source of information. I will stick to that opinion. Stewart has said many times before that he is a goof off that just rambles and makes stupid jokes. He is trying to get off easy so he doesn't have to answer some questions. It is no big deal. This is Comedy Central, after all. The show does have its serious moments, as brief as they may be. You all say it is comedy and I will agree with, however, you should be able to read between the lines. It is a political comedy show after all and it strikes many people and many people can identify with it. Keep in mind this is not criticism. I love the Daily Show as much as the next guy. The crowd is annoying but what can you do. Crowds boo or clap when their team is winning or losing. But in this case, we can clearly tell what the home team is. Yes, he does bash Kerry. He does say the Democrats are not standing up etc. Good, I say. More of that is only beneficial to the Democrats and their supporters. You need to be more worried about yourself and your party, then worry about the opposition. Well, I would not compare the Daily Show to a comics section in a newspaper. It is more of a funny editorial.

Jassi, Bernard Goldberg is taking his thing a bit too far. Bias was ok, but I wouldn't read it. Doesn't interest me. However, this so-called list is disturbing. Reminds you of the 40s and 50s. What he doesn't understand is that we need people who think differently, people who are a bit crazy and don't go down a certain path. All of that is a good thing. It creates ideas and moves society forward. Jon said it right in that most of the people on his list follow a certain political ideology. Coincidence? I don't think so. What is so pathetic is that he has Robert Byrd on his list. That is just unbelievable. Byrd is one of our better politicians and is really informative of what is going on and doesn't shy away from making a strong point or standing up to something. We need more politicians like him.
 
Can't YOU read between the lines? HE MAKES FUN OF WHOEVER IS IN THE NEWS. And whoever comes on his show. Naturally, the republicans are in the news a lot more since they control, well, everything. That's life sandy, you'll learn that when democrats are in office and he makes fun of them just as much.
 
Ok, so it is raunchy, satirical, college humor type political commentary. Why is Jon on the hook? He has his show running his way and it is very successful. He doesn't owe the viewers anything. Would a disclaimer like the one before South Park put your mind at ease?

BTW, I only brought up Goldberg as an example of how ruthless Jon can be. I wish I had that clip, it was pure pwnage.
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.

You can't compare Stewart's show to anything else out there on television. Unlike O'Reilly, Hannity, and the others he does not ever claim to be infallible and correct. He pokes fun and makes humour out of our pathetic government. It just so happens that Republicans are in control of the Senate, House, and White House.......so it's only natural that they will be bashed the most. Also, they are the ones making egregious mistakes left and right, so it's not like he's going out of his way to target them. Conservatives like you just like to clump all dissenters into the Michael Moore category.

I'm not the one comparing stewart to the news - the studies and the viewers are.

Take off your liberal blinders and try to see the point: it's not stewart, it's the viewers.

Stewart has the right to do and say whatever he wants. He's a good comedian. He makes me laugh.

The problem is that too many hypocrite viewers use the show as their daily dose of news, when Stewart himself says it's not a news show.

Don't think you've got a firm grasp of the issues just because you saw a cartoonish Nintendo Duck Hunt mockup, complete with fart sounds, of Cheney shooting somebody in the face on a comedy show.
 
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Skiguy411
The daily show is a circle jerk for democrats to bash bush.

It's a COMEDY fake news show. People take that show way too seriously.

And I suggest you pay more attention, Jon Stewart has been bashing Dems a LOT lately. Even some humorless assclown such as yourself would probably enjoy it.

Nah, try again. For many people, it is their major source of news. So what they see on the show they take it as being a fact. It might be comedy and it might be fake, but it is powerful. Yes, I'm a humorless assclown because I **may** have said something about somebody. Learn to read posts properly and not assume. As for the personal attacks, why are you bringing your P&N crap here? Leave it over there with your buddies.


major source of news..just because you say so? i say you are wrong

From 2 years ago: Link

For many under 30, the host of Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" is, improbably, an important news source.

A poll released earlier this year by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that 21 percent of people aged 18 to 29 cited "The Daily Show" and "Saturday Night Live" as a place where they regularly learned presidential campaign news.

By contrast, 23 percent of the young people mentioned ABC, CBS or NBC's nightly news broadcasts as a source.

I'd be willing to lay money that percentage has risen even more since then.
 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.

You can't compare Stewart's show to anything else out there on television. Unlike O'Reilly, Hannity, and the others he does not ever claim to be infallible and correct. He pokes fun and makes humour out of our pathetic government. It just so happens that Republicans are in control of the Senate, House, and White House.......so it's only natural that they will be bashed the most. Also, they are the ones making egregious mistakes left and right, so it's not like he's going out of his way to target them. Conservatives like you just like to clump all dissenters into the Michael Moore category.

I'm not the one comparing stewart to the news - the studies and the viewers are.

Take off your liberal blinders and try to see the point: it's not stewart, it's the viewers.

Stewart has the right to do and say whatever he wants. He's a good comedian. He makes me laugh.

The problem is that too many hypocrite viewers use the show as their daily dose of news, when Stewart himself says it's not a news show.

Don't think you've got a firm grasp of the issues just because you saw a cartoonish Nintendo Duck Hunt mockup, complete with fart sounds, of Cheney shooting somebody in the face on a comedy show.

I don't get my news from the Daily Show, so don't make any stupid assumptions like that.

What Stewart is able to do most of the time is to filter out the immense amount of BS that is spewed by our governement and political leaders. If anything he is providing a valuable service to his viewers. People like you should not be mad at Stewart or his viewers, you should be angry at misleading news stations like Faux News who pretend to be "Fair and Balanced" but are actually quite skewed towards their own agenda. They are far more dangerous than Stewart ever will be, and it's a shame morons like yourself focus all your energy on a 30 minute talkshow.

 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.

You can't compare Stewart's show to anything else out there on television. Unlike O'Reilly, Hannity, and the others he does not ever claim to be infallible and correct. He pokes fun and makes humour out of our pathetic government. It just so happens that Republicans are in control of the Senate, House, and White House.......so it's only natural that they will be bashed the most. Also, they are the ones making egregious mistakes left and right, so it's not like he's going out of his way to target them. Conservatives like you just like to clump all dissenters into the Michael Moore category.

I'm not the one comparing stewart to the news - the studies and the viewers are.

Take off your liberal blinders and try to see the point: it's not stewart, it's the viewers.

Stewart has the right to do and say whatever he wants. He's a good comedian. He makes me laugh.

The problem is that too many hypocrite viewers use the show as their daily dose of news, when Stewart himself says it's not a news show.

Don't think you've got a firm grasp of the issues just because you saw a cartoonish Nintendo Duck Hunt mockup, complete with fart sounds, of Cheney shooting somebody in the face on a comedy show.

I don't get my news from the Daily Show, so don't make any stupid assumptions like that.

What Stewart is able to do most of the time is to filter out the immense amount of BS that is spewed by our governement and political leaders. If anything he is providing a valuable service to his viewers. People like you should not be mad at Stewart or his viewers, you should be angry at misleading news stations like Faux News who pretend to be "Fair and Balanced" but are actually quite skewed towards their own agenda. They are far more dangerous than Stewart ever will be, and it's a shame morons like yourself focus all your energy on a 30 minute talkshow.

Easy, tiger. You're going to get an ulcer if you keep it up. I can almost hear your ears steaming and that vein getting ready to pop out of your forehead.

The Daily Show is a comedy show, NOT a talk show. What Stewart is able to do is make people laugh. THAT'S IT. Nothing else. You need to undertand this, and I don't know how to make it any more concise.

Just because I respond to an assinine comment that somehow decides to slither out of your mouthbox, doesn't mean I "focus all my energy on a 30 minute talkshow."

Your whole argument gets tossed out the window when you resort to namecalling, assumptions and generalizations, let alone your inability to decipher the difference between a news show, a comedy show, and a talk show. As a result of your inability to assemble a coherent idea, you lose all credibility.

Go away troll. It's a good thing you don't speak for all liberals, or you'd give them a bad name. The fact that this will go completely over your head is not typical of all liberals, just you.



 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Jon Stewart regularly says that his show is not real news. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me.

That is part of the joke. The news they present early on is actual news, for the most part. Jon adds him commentary in there. What I'm saying is that they leave out information and don't present the whole side of an issue. That is all. I don't care if its liberal or conservative since I dislike both groups.

bingo. this is why those studies are biased. sure, the viewers score highly on accuracy - on one side of the issue.

You can't compare Stewart's show to anything else out there on television. Unlike O'Reilly, Hannity, and the others he does not ever claim to be infallible and correct. He pokes fun and makes humour out of our pathetic government. It just so happens that Republicans are in control of the Senate, House, and White House.......so it's only natural that they will be bashed the most. Also, they are the ones making egregious mistakes left and right, so it's not like he's going out of his way to target them. Conservatives like you just like to clump all dissenters into the Michael Moore category.

I'm not the one comparing stewart to the news - the studies and the viewers are.

Take off your liberal blinders and try to see the point: it's not stewart, it's the viewers.

Stewart has the right to do and say whatever he wants. He's a good comedian. He makes me laugh.

The problem is that too many hypocrite viewers use the show as their daily dose of news, when Stewart himself says it's not a news show.

Don't think you've got a firm grasp of the issues just because you saw a cartoonish Nintendo Duck Hunt mockup, complete with fart sounds, of Cheney shooting somebody in the face on a comedy show.

I don't get my news from the Daily Show, so don't make any stupid assumptions like that.

What Stewart is able to do most of the time is to filter out the immense amount of BS that is spewed by our governement and political leaders. If anything he is providing a valuable service to his viewers. People like you should not be mad at Stewart or his viewers, you should be angry at misleading news stations like Faux News who pretend to be "Fair and Balanced" but are actually quite skewed towards their own agenda. They are far more dangerous than Stewart ever will be, and it's a shame morons like yourself focus all your energy on a 30 minute talkshow.

Easy, tiger. You're going to get an ulcer if you keep it up. I can almost hear your ears steaming and that vein getting ready to pop out of your forehead.

The Daily Show is a comedy show, NOT a talk show. What Stewart is able to do is make people laugh. THAT'S IT. Nothing else. You need to undertand this, and I don't know how to make it any more concise.

Just because I respond to an assinine comment that somehow decides to slither out of your mouthbox, doesn't mean I "focus all my energy on a 30 minute talkshow."

Your whole argument gets tossed out the window when you resort to namecalling, assumptions and generalizations, let alone your inability to decipher the difference between a news show, a comedy show, and a talk show. As a result of your inability to assemble a coherent idea, you lose all credibility.

Go away troll. It's a good thing you don't speak for all liberals, or you'd give them a bad name. The fact that this will go completely over your head is not typical of all liberals, just you.

i'm not a liberal, so yes it is a good thing i don't speak for them. again with the assumptions, lol.

 
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