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So it looks like I'm buying a Ferrari... (updated with pics)
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angminas
Diamond Member
Yes, 60,000 two-dollar bills.
I'd probably get a 355 too. I think it's the most beautiful road car ever made, for both eyes and ears. The maintenance difference would be mostly covered by the price difference, and the awesomeness difference is beyond price. The feeling I get from a car is not based on its track times. I really could not care less about being beaten in the 1/4 mile.
But, I've never driven a Ferrari, so my opinion might change someday. And some people are really into having a more modern look. Hey, it's their money. I like the mid 70s through mid 90s Ferraris, myself. I actually think the Mondial looks cool (white, convertible).
ponyo
Lifer
If I had to rate the look, it would be 360>355>430. I remember playing Sega Ferrari 355 Challenge and thinking how beautiful that car was. The Lambo of Atlanta dealership we visited last week had 355, 360, and 430 all next to each other. The 355 didn't look dated at all and looked better than 430 IMO. The dealer was asking $70k for the 355 spider and if the maintenance cost wasn't so expensive, I would have probably bought it. 355 is sexy but expensive to service. Pretty much anything requires engine removal.
My cousin called me from Cali and told me the deal was complete. PPI was fine and the exchange went smoothly. He said the car was super clean. I asked him if the shifter was notchy but he said it was "butter smooth" and the car drove and handled like a dream.
This is the car we bought.
Sergei Fedorov was the original owner. The car will arrive in Atlanta on Tuesday.
angminas
Diamond Member
Yeah, I loved playing 355 challenge. They had the sit-in version at the mall arcade, but it closed down. Bleah. That was pretty close to driving a real car in some ways. The biggest difference was what happened when I hit a wall...hehe. Right now I couldn't even afford the gas bill for a Ferrari, much less repairs.
Big grats on the car. It's always been beyond me how they could make the 430 so perfect in so many ways but so unattractive and uninspiring outwardly. Somebody got paid big money to take the 355/360 and cover it in mashed potatoes and punch it in the throat. Shrug, I guess it's the sleeper Ferrari.
Might tell your cousin to be careful about keeping the top up. Clarkson said people would always spit in his 355 if he left it unzipped. Does that happen over here?
Sergei Fedorov...hmm...hockey player?
Big grats on the car. It's always been beyond me how they could make the 430 so perfect in so many ways but so unattractive and uninspiring outwardly. Somebody got paid big money to take the 355/360 and cover it in mashed potatoes and punch it in the throat. Shrug, I guess it's the sleeper Ferrari.
Might tell your cousin to be careful about keeping the top up. Clarkson said people would always spit in his 355 if he left it unzipped. Does that happen over here?
Sergei Fedorov...hmm...hockey player?
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
The car looks great, though I am not a fan of those multi-piece wheels. I never understand why anyone would prefer wheels that are that finicky to clean.
ponyo
Lifer
I agree. I much prefer the standard wheel that comes with the car. Like this guy's car.
Last owner actually paid to upgrade to these rims. I think the rims are like extra $10k from Ferrari. :laugh:
I'm not a fan of the iForged wheels that's going on this car. But I'll reserve judgement til I see it on the car.
SearchMaster
Diamond Member
In Russia, clutch ruins you!
ponyo
Lifer
I don't get it either but I guess it's common on Ferrari cars. All the cars we saw had less than 16k miles and all had clutch job or was due for one. F1 cars tell you exactly the percentage of wear when you hook it up to a computer. Clutch and belt every 3 years seems to be the normal scheduled service interval on these cars. It's what makes up the bulk of the $15k service every 3 years. Supposedly clutch wear is similar on manual and F1 cars. F1 you have to deal with the computer which can go bad over time which will cost major $$. Manual 6-speed doesn't have that problem so it'll be cheaper in the long run.
I found out the modular wheels were $14k from Ferrari, not $10k. :Q And I thought HRE wheels were expensive at $7k. At least HRE wheels look nice.
Who pays $5k for aftermarket exhaust? Ferrari guys. I can buy a supercharger for my vette for $5k.
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
Sweet merciful crap!
I fully understand you have to pay to play. I love the Ferrari tradition and am just as captivated by their cars as anyone else. If I won the Powerball I would immediately get on the waiting list for a 458, and damn the expense and lack of opportunity to test drive it. I fully understand why a Ferrari engine is insanely costly, because from an economy of scale perspective, that is the price of buying an engine that is 1,000 times rarer than, say, an M3 engine, much less an LSx (and I am not implying that rarer and more expensive = better - while I am not a GM guy I recognize the amazing performance of their motors).
What I do not understand is why something like a wheel, which is in no way proprietary to Ferrari, should be so astronomically expensive. I'm sure those ugly multi-piece wheels are made in the same factory as other wheels that retail for a fraction of the price. It seems to me the ONLY reason they are so insanely expensive is that they're being marketed exclusively to people with Ferrari money. Even if I were very wealthy I would object to this kind of gouging.
In any case, I admire your cousin's taste and hope he enjoys his new ride, whether or not he keeps the wheels!
thomsbrain
Lifer
I got to chase the 360 in our group drive for a while today. Great sounding car.
As for money, let's just say the owner installed "$40,000" of stereo equipment, then later took it back out because he didn't like the quality of the wiring job.
I guess at some point it's just like monopoly money.
As for money, let's just say the owner installed "$40,000" of stereo equipment, then later took it back out because he didn't like the quality of the wiring job.
I guess at some point it's just like monopoly money.
angminas
Diamond Member
I think one reason the clutch gets swapped so often on exotics is how often the engines get pulled for this and that. I remember reading a long-term test of a Murcielago where the oil pump died and it was a 4k engine-out job. But Lamborghini was nice and paid for it even though it was like a few months out of warranty.
This thread reminds me of something I hadn't thought of in a while. I knew a Chinese guy who was studying here in 1996. He wanted to buy an Integra, the 170hp VTEC one...what was that, GSR? Can't remember. But his dad wouldn't buy it because it wasn't expensive/fancy enough. He got a Z3 instead (hideous, but probably great to drive). I wish I had that guy's problems. :laugh:
Ah, here's that article about the Lamborghini.
This thread reminds me of something I hadn't thought of in a while. I knew a Chinese guy who was studying here in 1996. He wanted to buy an Integra, the 170hp VTEC one...what was that, GSR? Can't remember. But his dad wouldn't buy it because it wasn't expensive/fancy enough. He got a Z3 instead (hideous, but probably great to drive). I wish I had that guy's problems. :laugh:
Ah, here's that article about the Lamborghini.
ponyo
Lifer
update with pictures.
My cousin came back from his Disney vacation so I helped him take the wheels down to his brother-in-law's body shop to swap out the rear grill and the wheels. We had the workers swap the red stock grill for the black Challenge grill. We think it looks more aggressive and it helps getting rid of the heat from the engine bay. We swapped out the $14k ferrari modular wheels for some iForged wheels we bought for cheap. I wasn't sure how it would look but it turned out pretty good. I didn't get to drive it today as we both had to hurry to attend a birthday party. I'm going to take it out for a spin tomorrow.
Here are some pics.
My cousin came back from his Disney vacation so I helped him take the wheels down to his brother-in-law's body shop to swap out the rear grill and the wheels. We had the workers swap the red stock grill for the black Challenge grill. We think it looks more aggressive and it helps getting rid of the heat from the engine bay. We swapped out the $14k ferrari modular wheels for some iForged wheels we bought for cheap. I wasn't sure how it would look but it turned out pretty good. I didn't get to drive it today as we both had to hurry to attend a birthday party. I'm going to take it out for a spin tomorrow.
Here are some pics.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
That is so fucking hot...I want one!
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