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So, is it the iPhone or AT&T?

MotionMan

MotionMan

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Now that the iPhone has been on Verizon for a bit, are people having the same problems they were on AT&T, or are those problems not present while using the Verizon network?

I am not talking about personal experiences. I mean all of iPhoneom as a whole (Links to support the conclusion are mandatory).

MotionMan
 
no

Even links to support such a conclusion will be somebody else's personal experience. The only way to even know about this stuff is from people experiencing it. What did you expect out of this? My iphone works, and it's always worked... so there ya go.
 
I've always heard that the problems were due to over-saturation of AT&T's network in major areas, but they can't get anymore "air space." However, integrating T-Mobile should help give them more space and hopefully better call-to-drop ratios in those areas.

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What you could do is look at NYC (one of the problem areas) and see if all phones had problems of if it was just the iPhone.
 
gorcorps said:
no

Even links to support such a conclusion will be somebody else's personal experience. The only way to even know about this stuff is from people experiencing it. What did you expect out of this? My iphone works, and it's always worked... so there ya go.
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The links I am looking for are from journalists who may have interviewed or polled multiple users as to their experiences with AT&T vs. Verizon. I was hoping that some reputable source had investigated this.

I also did NOT want to open up the floor to AT haters or fanboys. Just the facts.

FYI - I had an iPhone 3g and have a 4, both on AT&T. Before that, I was on Verizon. I have not experienced the problems everyone complains about with the iPhone on AT&T, so I have no frame of reference to compare the problems, even if I had a Verizon iPhone.

MotionMan
 
Wow. This was such a hot topic before the Verizon iPhone was launched.

Is it safe to say there is little difference between the experience on an iPhone on AT&T and Verizon (other than voice and data at the same time)?

MotionMan
 
I am only one user but I spend a lot of time running between DC and NYC and I have found the iPhone (on AT&T, both 3G and 4G versions) to be slightly less dependable than my Verizon BlackBerry. However, I attribute part of that to it being a BlackBerry which as much as I don't like it as a smartphone it is certainly the better phonephone.

I think a study like this would be hard without AT&T and/or Verizon support. Interviewing users man-on-the-street style would probably not be all that useful since most people are not very savy.
 
dmw16 said:
I am only one user but I spend a lot of time running between DC and NYC and I have found the iPhone (on AT&T, both 3G and 4G versions) to be slightly less dependable than my Verizon BlackBerry. However, I attribute part of that to it being a BlackBerry which as much as I don't like it as a smartphone it is certainly the better phonephone.

I think a study like this would be hard without AT&T and/or Verizon support. Interviewing users man-on-the-street style would probably not be all that useful since most people are not very savy.
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So we will never know if it was AT&T or the iPhone?

Is the buzz that the problems still exist on Verizon?

MotionMan
 
The issue with AT&T, particularly in large metropolitan areas, was a combination of multiple factors including saturation of available spectrum, insufficient backhaul to transmit data rapidly at peak saturation, and the need for more towers in general.

People in the worst market for AT&T (NYC) after the iPhone explosion had bad coverage regardless of the phone. It was difficult to see this on the data aspect of the phone because AT&T didn't commit to Android rapidly and thus had very little actual smartphone traffic beyond barely web capable Blackberries and the iPhone for a long time (until newer BlackBerry devices came out and Android became available on the network). But on the voice side of things, dropped calls became more prevalent and anecdotal reports came in from everywhere (here's one: my brother maintains two phones because he can't rely on his iPhone on AT&T in NYC for calls). AT&T even developed apps to help them identify problem areas (Mark the Spot).

The T-Mobile acquisition brings improved backhaul, more towers, and spectrum for 4G use (they aren't gaining any 3G spectrum with this deal, what they have obtained will be used for 4G).

I'm pretty sure it was AT&T and I haven't heard of similar problems with the Verizon iPhone, though Verizon's 3G speeds are slower if you have HSDPA in your area with AT&T and you get voice+data simultaneously with AT&T. It's a trade off. I was recently in NYC with my AT&T iPhone and noticed significantly greater network sluggishness while trying to access data anywhere in the city, but I'd still prefer to be able to have my phone be able to take a call and simultaneously receive network data in its cradle so it can continue to properly route me while driving.

I think your latest post nails it though (where's the buzz?), this issue doesn't seem to have been as big as the news suggested as Verizon iPhone purchases, while large initially, still constitute a very small population of iPhone 4s. The plans to jump ship were clearly not as grandiose as the Internet commenting population would like you to think they were.
 
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The Verizon iPhone still has antennagate, or whatever they call it.

http://news.consumerreports.org/ele...ption-problems-consumer-reports-lab-test.html

Short conclusion: it's the phone.

My personal assessment: the network is partly to blame. I get 2 bars of AT&T in my own home regardless of what phone I use while my iPad 2 on Verizon rarely dips into 4 bars. Both yield the same Speedtest.net result.

At work, I have absolutely no signal for my phone, which forces me down to GSM just to keep SMS possible. Meanwhile, my iPad 2 still has at least 2 bars of Verizon 3G.
 
If you want some quality info about the antenna situation, which is still an "issue" with the Verizon phone, read the article from Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2

The visualization of antenna signal strength was updated since this article to more accurately reflect signal strength, one of the issues brought up in the post. As Consumer Reports states, you can adversely affect your signal strength by bridging that gap in the phone's case with both the Verizon phone and the AT&T phone. You can have a similar effect on most all phones to varying degrees. It was found that the iPhone's antenna is in fact a very strong performer except in very specific cases of low coverage areas when coupled with bridging the antenna.

"Antennagate" died because it was another big stir about something that doesn't seem to be a big deal to the throngs of iPhone buyers.
 
Battery problems and signal problems are with AT&T iPhone not Verizon, serious battery drain has been happening to AT&T iPhone since Apple upgraded to 4.3 and still after the 4.3.1 update a few days ago. Verizon iPhone update to 4.2.6,and with that being an Verizon iPhone user I have no complaints.
 
TheeIpad said:
Battery problems and signal problems are with AT&T iPhone not Verizon, serious battery drain has been happening to AT&T iPhone since Apple upgraded to 4.3 and still after the 4.3.1 update a few days ago. Verizon iPhone update to 4.2.6,and with that being an Verizon iPhone user I have no complaints.
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Can't say I've noticed any battery drain with my AT&T iPhone. Works as it did from day 1. Where does this stuff come from?
 
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