so is it my AMD barton CPU or 6600GT AGP preventing me from playing smooth bluray?

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BlahBlahYouToo

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or both?

amd barton xp 2600+ 1.9Ghz or so.
2gb pc3200 ram
nvidia 6600GT 512mb (iirc)
some 7200 rpm hd (not actually bluray disc but a rip)

monitor resolution is 1280x1024

speeds up, then slows down, audio is out of sync with video, etc.
works fine on my c2q9550, gtx260 obviously.
 
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theevilsharpie

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Probably both. Have you checked to make sure that your video playback program is using hardware decoding?
 
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lol both. the 6600 is perfectly capable of displaying hd video, hell most any igp can do that. it doesn't accel at all though so your cpu has to really be up to snuff. barton is wicked slow, hd 1080p let alone at bluray bitrates would simply rape that cpu. you need dual core for one thing. even then a fictional dualcore barton would die under that load aswell. i used to have one of those long ago. it couldnt do much. its time to upgrade. hell i can time stretch 1080p video aka 2x playback while playing counterstrike at the same time because of gpu offload..pretty sweet these days. coreavc cuda.
 
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theevilsharpie

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A 6600 should be capable of accelerating H.264 playback if the drivers are up to date and the video program supports it.
 
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No Lifer
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i'm pretty sure the 6600gt came out before any decent h264 acceleration
 
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Windows 7's x264 codec will automatically use hardware acceleration if it's available. However, the 6600 doesn't have it. If you're not willing to upgrade the whole machine, you should get a low-end Radeon HD series card.

The 6600 might be able to accelerate mpeg based BRDs, though.
 
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i think your 6600GT is fine, but your cpu needs to get updated thats for sure. i had a pentium 4 2.4C @ 2.9Ghz and it would play 720p and a few 1080p clips fine, but anything beyond that it wouldnt go...
 
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Fox5

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Both?

I don't think the 6600gt can hardware accelerate blu-ray (at least not all content), and the barton is wicked slow as this point.

You might wanna look into getting an ion nettop or netbook (or the amd equivalent). I think nettops can be had for around $200, and netbooks/laptops with nvidia or ati graphics for around $400-$500.
 
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Both the cpu and graphics card are insufficient. An unassisted 'Barton' is probably hopeless at playing 'HD' video, and the 6600 GT is too old to help much -- I think the problem here is the very early implementation of 'PureVideo', which had very limited MPEG4 capabilites. I believe there wasn't a decent version of PureVideo until the GeForce 8000 cards (but not including the G80 cores). Presuming your video is using the right codec, and you employ media player software able to take advantage of hardware (graphics) acceleration, the simplest and cheapest solution is to buy a modern AGP card. It looks like that $50 HD 3450 is the best bet.

However, I should point out that the HD 3450 is not a very powerful processor, and I'm uncertain whether its hardware acceleration would be sufficient when matched with such an old cpu. Back when the AMD 780G chipset was first released (HD 3200 graphics), it was typically paired with an Athlon X2 4850e (2.5 GHz dualcore 'Brisbane'), and one still saw cpu utilisations over 30 per cent with 1080p content, with both the HD 3200 and HD 3450.

With 720p content, maybe the Barton and HD 3450 will have a chance? I feel uneasy spending even $50 if it's not a sure thing, mmm.
 
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Fox5

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I'd also like to point out, the Barton only has SSE, while an Atom has SSE3, putting its floating point capability well above the Barton, and even a lone Atom can't do HD video.

And winterpool, you're right about the first decent purevideo occurring with the geforce 8000s, minus the very first ones.

BTW, faster cpus can be purchased with motherboards with decent igps for relatively cheap. If it didn't mean the system would also require new memory, I'd say the OP should do that before spending money on an agp video card.
 
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soccerballtux

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Fox5 said:
I'd also like to point out, the Barton only has SSE, while an Atom has SSE3, putting its floating point capability well above the Barton, and even a lone Atom can't do HD video.

And winterpool, you're right about the first decent purevideo occurring with the geforce 8000s, minus the very first ones.

BTW, faster cpus can be purchased with motherboards with decent igps for relatively cheap. If it didn't mean the system would also require new memory, I'd say the OP should do that before spending money on an agp video card.
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Uh, what? Mine does 1080p just fine.
Sheesh, so much misinformation on these boards. I have a 1.3Ghz Atom z520 and it keeps my GMA500 fed with data plenty well. I can watch 1080p video no problem as long as it's AVC or VC.1 encoding.
 
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piasabird

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It might be due to something like Anti Virus. I had AVG on my last XP Box and it seemed to lag all the time till I reinstalled the AVG software after updated to XP SP3. I think one of the XP support packs made it work buggy. Also drivers could have to be upgraded after updating to the next support pack.
 
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soccerballtux said:
Uh, what? Mine does 1080p just fine.
Sheesh, so much misinformation on these boards. I have a 1.3Ghz Atom z520 and it keeps my GMA500 fed with data plenty well. I can watch 1080p video no problem as long as it's AVC or VC.1 encoding.
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irony lol...

don't claim misinformation when you spew it. your atom would die on any hd video the gma500 didn't accelerate.
 
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soccerballtux said:
This. The 6 series of cards had broken PureVideo acceleration-- OP Should buy an ATI 3450 or some other low end card and he'd be able to accelerate no problem then.
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yea i owned that card back when i had a barton as well. i waited for the magic "pure video" and never got it either. eventually i jumped to dual core to solve the problem. one of the earliest hd tasks i tried to get the barton to do were hdwmv and apple trailers. it would fail pretty miserably on both.
 
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soccerballtux

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0roo0roo said:
irony lol...

don't claim misinformation when you spew it. your atom would die on any hd video the gma500 didn't accelerate.
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0roo0roo please read what I was replying to, I was referring to the people who said an Atom couldn't handle even gpu-accelerated HD.
Mine plays Step Into Liquid 1080P great.
 
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soccerballtux said:
0roo0roo please read what I was replying to, I was referring to the people who said an Atom couldn't handle even gpu-accelerated HD.
Mine plays Step Into Liquid 1080P great.
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I didn't say atom couldn't do gpu-accelerated HD, I said a lone atom (no coprocessing) can't do HD video, despite superior floating point capability to an Athlon XP.
 
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