So im thinking of buying a handgun... opinions?

[Thegonagle]

Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

Congratulations! You've won the dumbass award!

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

I do not have a concealed-carry permit, because for me the liabilities associated with concealed carry outweigh the likely benefits. I know better than to make stupid, blanket criticisms of those who do carry pistols, though.

 

[Thegonagle]

NM

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

I do not have a concealed-carry permit, because for me the liabilities associated with concealed carry outweigh the likely benefits. I know better than to make stupid, blanket criticisms of those who do carry pistols, though.

You're right. I do get emotional about the subject. I just seems that everyone I've met who carries, or wants to carry, is wack in head in one way or another.

I shouldn't make blanket statements like that though.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

No, but if I am, what can I do? If someone's already got a gun out on me, would it be so smart to reach for my own, and end up dead one second later?

BTW, tell me about being robbed at gunpoint, what happend, and why it is that you're still here today. I know about your stores in some unsavory areas, I assume your experience has something to do with that?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

No, but if I am, what can I do? If someone's already got a gun out on me, would it be so smart to reach for my own, and end up dead one second later?

I actually tend to agree with you. I HAVE been robbed at knifepoint, in NYC. I was unarmed, and handed over my wallet. It really bothered me afterward.

In hindsight, I think that a concealed pistol might have helped, but it also might have ended up much worse, with one of us dead. Even if the robber were the only one hurt, I would have ended up under investigation, and possibly charged criminally, not to mention that I would have to live with the knowledge I had hurt or killed a man (even if he clearly deserved it, I can't believe this would not bother me in a major way). On balance, it was easier and cheaper to just hand over the wallet. I would readily use a gun to defend myself or a family member from rape, torture, or murder, but generally I would rather give up money or property than shoot someone.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Blain
If you "love the kickback"... a 454 is the gun for you

Heh, my uncle owns a Casull.. I shot it when I was about 12.. thing almost broke my wrist.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

No, but if I am, what can I do? If someone's already got a gun out on me, would it be so smart to reach for my own, and end up dead one second later?

I actually tend to agree with you. I HAVE been robbed at knifepoint, in NYC. I was unarmed, and handed over my wallet. It really bothered me afterward.

In hindsight, I think that a concealed pistol might have helped, but it also might have ended up much worse, with one of us dead. Even if the robber were the only one hurt, I would have ended up under investigation, and possibly charged criminally, not to mention that I would have to live with the knowledge I had hurt or killed a man (even if he clearly deserved it, I can't believe this would not bother me in a major way). On balance, it was easier and cheaper to just hand over the wallet. I would readily use a gun to defend myself or a family member from rape, torture, or murder, but generally I would rather give up money or property than shoot someone.

That's the whole point of concealed carry. If the robber just wants money give it to him, don't risk life and limb for a couple bucks. You should've ran.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

Several times. That is why I plan to get a concealed carry permit...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

No, but if I am, what can I do? If someone's already got a gun out on me, would it be so smart to reach for my own, and end up dead one second later?

BTW, tell me about being robbed at gunpoint, what happend, and why it is that you're still here today. I know about your stores in some unsavory areas, I assume your experience has something to do with that?

Most robbers will not simply shove the gun in your face. Many try to hide it, especially in stores with wide open windows to the street. In all of my experiences, they'll flash it, then hold it behind the counter or under their jacket. Plenty of time to get the drop on them. Not only this, but often I'll be in the back room, while my counterperson is the one being robbed. Again, plenty of time to get the drop. Criminals are more than likely extremely poor shots with cheap inaccurate weapons. And much of the time, the guns aren't even operable or real.

Yes, both me and my GF have been robbed in our stores. One of our employees lost her life, and many of our employees have quit out of fear. I refuse to allow my life to be in the hands of a crack head. If you choose not to defend yourself, fine. But please, don't force that upon other people.

I refuse to be a victim, and I refuse to fall for the victim mentality preached by the antigun people.

BTW, there are between 1.5 and 2 million defensive gun uses a year. The vast majority occur without a shot fired.

In my opinion, if more people actively defended themselves, there would be fewer crimes, and fewer criminals.

 

[Lyfer]

Who needs a gun when you can get a bag of small rocks.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

Several times. That is why I plan to get a concealed carry permit...

How do you get yourself into that situation over and over? I'm just curious.

 

[Rogue9]

I am from Minnesota, so i could conceal and carry if i wanted to, but there is no pint in that since i dont plan on killing anyone, or getting myself killed.

I have to object to that. That's like saying, "I don't lock my doors, because I don't plan on my house/car getting broken into."

Now, back to your question on recommendations, you haven't even said if you've actually owned a handgun before. Since you said this will be a gun for range shooting, a .22 is the best place to start. 'Nuff said. If you want a semi-automatic that can also be used for self-defense, I'd recommend 9mm as good starter. Since everyone makes a nine, you'll have to try some out to see what fits you.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

No, but if I am, what can I do? If someone's already got a gun out on me, would it be so smart to reach for my own, and end up dead one second later?

BTW, tell me about being robbed at gunpoint, what happend, and why it is that you're still here today. I know about your stores in some unsavory areas, I assume your experience has something to do with that?

Most robbers will not simply shove the gun in your face. Many try to hide it, especially in stores with wide open windows to the street. In all of my experiences, they'll flash it, then hold it behind the counter or under their jacket. Plenty of time to get the drop on them. Not only this, but often I'll be in the back room, while my counterperson is the one being robbed. Again, plenty of time to get the drop. Criminals are more than likely extremely poor shots with cheap inaccurate weapons. And much of the time, the guns aren't even operable or real.

I was thinking about that, just in a business setting such as yours, how it might be useful, because there would be more than one person against the robber. But in a one on one setting, I think having two guns pulled is more likely to have a worse outcome than just one.

 

[phatj]

Originally posted by: de8212
Glock.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

That's the whole point of concealed carry. If the robber just wants money give it to him, don't risk life and limb for a couple bucks. You should've ran.

I think you mean "should've run."

I'm not sure I get the point of your post - I did give the robber what he wanted. At that point there was no need to run. For whatever it's worth, I think he was on crack, and was very keyed up. I felt his reflexes would be quicker than mine, and that he would stick me if I did anything other than what he told me to.

(odd FYI: I tried to create this post, using a more appropriate word than "stick," but was told the word was forbidden.)

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

st@b is banned cause someone had a thread like

"My dad shut off the internet"

First reply was

"St@b him"

Was posted just like "stop posting" or any other catch phrase.

DOn't remember the exact thread or poster that started it, but was something like that.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I'd look @ a Taurus Revolver, Glock semi-auto, and recommend a Savage tactical rifle (heavy bbl)

If money is a consideration anyway...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Liesure shooting's cool by me. I've done it, lots of times. It's fun.

It's that "personal protection conceal and carry" thing that makes me think that the people actually doing it are limp-dick, insecure pussies too scared of the world to deal with it, and so to compensate, they carry a pussy-ass man-killer handgun.

You've never been robbed at gunpoint, have you?

Several times. That is why I plan to get a concealed carry permit...

How do you get yourself into that situation over and over? I'm just curious.

I don't know. Been robbed once at Arby's and once downtown. As to why? Not sure. I know it won't happen again.

 

[CaptainBill]

Try your hand with a S&W 500 .50. Actually has less throwback than the .454 Casull.

Autoloaders - the 1911's are classics. You get what you pay for and firearms only appreciate in value if taken care of.
Suggest the Kimber Tactical 2 1911 or the Valtro 1998/1911


For a rifle, if you are going to be doing some precision bench shooting or hunting, go with anything with Savage's new AccuTrigger. FULLY user adjustable from a maximum of 6lbs of pull to down to something really small (can't remember for the life of me).

 

Originally posted by: CaptainBill
Try your hand with a S&W 500 .50. Actually has less throwback than the .454 Casull.

Autoloaders - the 1911's are classics. You get what you pay for and firearms only appreciate in value if taken care of.
Suggest the Kimber Tactical 2 1911 or the Valtro 1998/1911


For a rifle, if you are going to be doing some precision bench shooting or hunting, go with anything with Savage's new AccuTrigger. FULLY user adjustable from a maximum of 6lbs of pull to down to something really small (can't remember for the life of me).

I wouldnt really get anything less than a 2 1/2 pound trigger pull though. Anything less than that and you start to take huge risks.

That being said, the 1911 is very good. The most modified design for a handgun. Plenty of options with it if you want to add or improve on it as well.

BTW, no Desert Eagles .50. They jam sometimes, and frankly speaking, you are going to hit NOTHING with them.

 

One more thing...do your research before hand. Ask people at stores and at the range. If you plan on shooting more than 1 time a year, I would say get the gun based on the ammo price, not the other way around. You can easily go through 300 rounds in 1 or 2 hours at the range.

Although you have to pay, this place has unbiased reviews.

 

[Wintermute76]

Also, if you want to see what is popular and what not you can try The High Road or Packing.org if you plan on conceal and carry later.