So I'm sitting here with a broken Playstation 3 launch console..Warning console rant!

[coreyb]

what's this talk about DRM infecting your computer?

 

[Thraxen]

When I built my current PC both the motherboard and graphics card were DOA. However, it has run fine since (it's several years old). I've had two 360s get the RRoD. Thankfully, neither my PC nor 360s cost me anything other than time because it was all warranty work. No problems with the PS3 or Wii.

 

[Narmer]

I can almost bet that alot of people with console problems have them close to the ground. Move it up and there will be less dust issues. My PS3 is like 5.5' off the ground.

 

[Golgatha]

I can almost bet that alot of people with console problems have them close to the ground. Move it up and there will be less dust issues. My PS3 is like 5.5' off the ground.

Mine was babied for the most part. Opened up the door on the media cabinet when it was on any length of time, didn't stack it, didn't place it near any other components, and blew it through with compressed air every 6 months or so.

I've looked through posts Online and don't think I can fix the issue because the HDD works, the PS seems like it's fine, and the Bluray drive works too (I assume, as it worked the day before the failure). Figure something on the motherboard failed.

 

[simonizor]

We didn't used to have this sort of problem with the older consoles, those things lasted for ages (but the cartridges, not so much). Too much heat producing hardware crammed into a little box is eventually going to overheat and fry when it inevitably gets full of dust. The small box acts almost like a vacuum for dust and other small particles. If you have animals or smoke in your house, the console is basically doomed because, without voiding warranty, you can't open it to clean it out yourself. I suppose if you're warranty has expired, then opening it up and cleaning it out is the only way to lessen your chances of the hardware becoming too hot.

The real problem lies with the manufacturers rushing the newest tech that they can build out the door as soon as it's done because they have to be the first company to get their console out so they can get more sales. They need to let the technology that they create mature a little bit before they rush it out.

 

[jacktesterson]

I've had only 1 console die on me. It was a ps1. In years of building pcs only 1 mobo and 1 harddrive fail. I own all 3 current gen systems all good for me... The 360 is the oldest

 

[magomago]

We didn't used to have this sort of problem with the older consoles, those things lasted for ages (but the cartridges, not so much). Too much heat producing hardware crammed into a little box is eventually going to overheat and fry when it inevitably gets full of dust. The small box acts almost like a vacuum for dust and other small particles. If you have animals or smoke in your house, the console is basically doomed because, without voiding warranty, you can't open it to clean it out yourself. I suppose if you're warranty has expired, then opening it up and cleaning it out is the only way to lessen your chances of the hardware becoming too hot.

The real problem lies with the manufacturers rushing the newest tech that they can build out the door as soon as it's done because they have to be the first company to get their console out so they can get more sales. They need to let the technology that they create mature a little bit before they rush it out.

Lol, your entire last paragraph is aimed directly at Microsoft. Honestly, I don't think anything in the console industry dating back to the 70s matches what the Xbox360 went through. As much as people want to blame ps2 read errors or whatever....that RRoD and E74 issue (all caused by bad internal heat management??) truly takes the cake. But as the market has told us: it doesn't matter xD Just send us free replacements, and we'll keep buying =)

 

[smackababy]

Lol, your entire last paragraph is aimed directly at Microsoft. Honestly, I don't think anything in the console industry dating back to the 70s matches what the Xbox360 went through. As much as people want to blame ps2 read errors or whatever....that RRoD and E74 issue (all caused by bad internal heat management??) truly takes the cake. But as the market has told us: it doesn't matter xD Just send us free replacements, and we'll keep buying =)

I would say that the majority of RRoD were caused by where the Xbox was placed. Stick it in a box with little to no ventilation and it will overheat. Who ever would have thought?

 

[Thraxen]

I would say that the majority of RRoD were caused by where the Xbox was placed. Stick it in a box with little to no ventilation and it will overheat. Who ever would have thought?

No, the RRoD is the result of a design flaw and can strike anyone. My XBox sits alone on an open air shelf and it was hit with the RRoD.

 

[Golgatha]

No, the RRoD is the result of a design flaw and can strike anyone. My XBox sits alone on an open air shelf and it was hit with the RRoD.

Same situation with my PS3. If I played for any length of time, I opened the door to the entertainment center so it could get fresh air. I also had it alone in its compartment so no other devices would heat it up further.

 

[Onita]

I would say that the majority of RRoD were caused by where the Xbox was placed. Stick it in a box with little to no ventilation and it will overheat. Who ever would have thought?

I would say you're wrong. I'm sure some were but it was just a shitty design.

 

[purbeast0]

I would say that the majority of RRoD were caused by where the Xbox was placed. Stick it in a box with little to no ventilation and it will overheat. Who ever would have thought?

yea sorry, you are wrong.

MS even knew they made a huge design mistake and admitted it, and that is why they offered the 3 year extension of a warranty, and went back to the drawing board to create a better design.

 

[smackababy]

I can't argue (nor will I) that MS had a major design flaw, but the numbers were vastly inflated due to user ignorance. That, and the fact that quite a few people probably went the "Oh I have the disc read error on a 2 year old Xbox, time to towel it!"

 

[Dumac]

I can't argue (nor will I) that MS had a major design flaw, but the numbers were vastly inflated due to user ignorance. That, and the fact that quite a few people probably went the "Oh I have the disc read error on a 2 year old Xbox, time to towel it!"

If the 360 numbers were vastly inflated due to user ignorance and consumers placing their Xbox 360 in a not well ventilated area, then why don't we see these inflated numbers for PS3 and Wii failures?

Unless you are insinuating that PS3 and Wii owners aren't as ignorant.

 

[Onita]

Lol. I had a total of 4 RROD's. I ended up buying a new (I think Jasper, IIRC) and gave my old 360 to my brother... who got another RROD.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I had a 40Gb PS3 Phat laser assembly fail on me. I repaired it myself. Not hard to do.

 

[Deeko]

My launch 20GB PS3 is still working fine. My Wii, however, no longer reads discs. First console I've ever had with issues. Ironic since it was built with technology well aged for its time - not cutting edge, heat-producing tech like the PS3.

 

[American Gunner]

All the bashing on the Xbox is funny. Yeah, the product sucked, but they stood behind it and fixed the issues. And when I have had my disk drive fail on me, I sent it in and got one month free gold even though it was only gone for a week. My brothers PS3 stopped working two days after the one year warranty was up and he had to pay to get it repaired.

 

[RavenSEAL]

PS3 don't break easily, trust me. You do have to consider the fact that its about to be or already is 4 years old, thats not a bad lifespan. The majority of the fatties break because of over heating, BR-Drive wears out, etc. Slims are more reliable, less prone to overheating and of course smaller, so if i were you, i'd give the slim a chance. Very few people have had any sort of issues with the new slim. Most issues of PS3s breaking have been the OLD 20gb/40gb versions, which were the original ones, thats for a reason, they are somewhat old.

 

[spacejamz]

no problems with my 60GB launch PS3...i did get a standalone blu ray player last year to ease the load on it thought...

 

[TecHNooB]

My PS3 failed to update the firmware and now loops over and over telling me to install some sort of firmware on the HD (I formatted the drive on my PC). I only got to play one game (MGS4) intermittently during my time off between semesters. Was a sad day I think I can fix it but I haven't gotten around to it.

 

[llee]

try seeing if baking it fixes the problem.

 

[RaiderJ]

Funny, cause my Jasper 360 Arcade unit is the only one that hasn't had some catastrophic failure yet and it's the only one I held back on buying at launch.

Besides the money outlay, I'm not overly bummed about the PS3. I still have a launch PS2 fat with HD Loader installed on it, so I can play most of my PS2 games by loading up that disc and then choosing from a menu. It and the new slim PS3 I just bought use a lot less electricity than my old BC console anyway, so hopefully electricity savings will help offset part of the purchase price. I am very tempted to buy a slim PS2 and just keep it in the box for when my fat PS2 bites the dust though. I have a lot of really fun and rare PS2 games in my catalog.

Disc drives were the major source of failure on the PS2 - I've replaced and fixed tons of lasers on those drives. Running everything from the HDD is the way to go! No worrying about disc drives and you get faster loading times!

 

[RavenSEAL]

My PS3 failed to update the firmware and now loops over and over telling me to install some sort of firmware on the HD (I formatted the drive on my PC). I only got to play one game (MGS4) intermittently during my time off between semesters. Was a sad day I think I can fix it but I haven't gotten around to it.

Yea, all you need to do is just wipe the HDD.

 

[TecHNooB]

Yea, all you need to do is just wipe the HDD.

The problem is I have already done this several times. I'll format the drive, get prompted to install some sort of firmware, install the firmware, watch the firmware install, then once it finishes, it asks me to install the firmware.