So I'm inching myself ever closer to a paint job...

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JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
If you have the money, save it. Use it as a down payment of a newer car.

Like what? I want something torquey and sporty. I dont like crappaliers. I'm not rich.

And it can't be a Mustang.

There is not a lot that meets my criteria. And I'm not going in debt for a depreciating asset.

Well, it's only short term debt. I really don't get why people get their panties in a wad over car loans...Cars are not an investment, they are a necessity.
 
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Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
If you have the money, save it. Use it as a down payment of a newer car.

Like what? I want something torquey and sporty. I dont like crappaliers. I'm not rich.

And it can't be a Mustang.

There is not a lot that meets my criteria. And I'm not going in debt for a depreciating asset.

It's only depreciating if you plan on selling it. Find the car you want, buy it, keep it. There's a ton of cars out there, new and used, I'm sure you can find something.


used is the way to go....less depreciation

and if you look good enough you can always find a great car thats been looked after, though too me your car looks well ghetto....i think candy apple red and gold wire split rims :D

nah seriously get looking round some forecourts....
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
So, in my sig you can see my car. 1991 Chevrolet Beretta GT for the lazyness inclined.

My paint is peeling. Yay Chevy!

So.

$399.95 for VALUE PREP
$799.95 for Supreme Paint (Level 3 out of 4) Link for more info on the paint
$180 for minor rust repair
$150 for Full Clear Coat
$60 Shop Materials
= $1600 CANADIAN

Thoughts on this Maaco quote?

I had my whole car painted for $600 and it look really nice. However, I wouldn't even put that into a car like the Beretta.
 

Thegonagle

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I'd just drive it and not worry. I personally don't think your 91 Beretta is worth as much as you think. Even in CAD.

When you get totally sick of looking at the crappy paint, there are a lot of newer, cheaper cars that would be torquey and as nice or nicer. Grand Am (not the greatest reliability--mechanically similar to what you have); Grand Prix 3800 (better); Buick Regal 3800 (better yet); Ford Probe V6 (More expensive because everybody knows that Probes are mechanical twins with the Mazda MX6/626--hell look at V6 versions of those, too). Ford Contour V6--quick and great handling (hard to recommend due reliability issues though). I'm sure there

Save your money for a younger, shinier car. I personally don't think a 15 year old Beretta is worth the work.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Think about this...

You're considering dropping more than 60% of the vehicle's value in a paint job when you'll still be stuck with a 15 year old vehicle... With a new paint job.

Sell the car + that 1600 and you'd be looking at over $4K towards a new vehicle. For comparison I got this for $2800 US after TTL. (Damage in the last pic happened after I bought it.) $4K CDN would be well on your way to a perfectly decent vehicle.

Or keep driving it & just live with the paint job.

IMHO you'd eventually regret repainting it.

Viper GTS


Agreed.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
Jan 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: Scouzer
Yeah. It has been repainted.

Unfortunately, they didn't reprime it. So the paint is coming right back off again. (This was the previous owner)

Probe GT = unreliable.
So why did you say "yay Chevy" in your original post, implying that Chevy's paint sucks....when it's not the original paint?

And Probe GT's were not unreliable cars. They are so old now that they certainly might be at this point. But they were pretty good cars when they were fairly new....just expensive to repair if something did go wrong.
 

Pacfanweb

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Your car is not worth that kind of money.....and Maaco will put a sorry-ass paint job on it anyway. Especially if it already has a crappy paint job.....their prep work is terrible.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: lnguyen
Maaco sucks ass.

Personal experience?

Here's a story I have about Maaco from high school :) :

My senior year, a friend at school just bought a 1978 Firebird. The car needed paint, and the front fenders had awful rust. He sanded away the rust and filled in the giant holes with Bondo. He didn't bother sanding down the Bondo though, saying "Maaco will do that before they paint it." The Bondo actually had spikes sticking out of it :D Anyway, he took it in, and picked it up the next day. THEY PAINTED RIGHT OVER IT!!!! Bwaaaahahahahaha......that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen! The front of his car looked like a well painted sea urchin!

Maaco said the paint over what they are given, body work was never ordered and would have been extra. I think he ended up spending more than he paid for the car to get that fixed.
 

Scouzer

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Your 91 beretta isn't worth $2500...canadian or american dollars. I'm selling a 94 beretta z26 in great condition (perfect interior) with only 129k miles for $2300 right now and I'm having a hard time.

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/tfinch2/IM000329.JPG

Again, cars in the US sell for VERY different prices than here. You bet your ass if that car was anywhere near me I'd buy it right off of you this minute. '94 Z26's go for $5k here.

But yeah, I probably won't go for the repaint nonetheless. I have always been a big fan of a Probe's appearance.

About the repaint, Pacfanweb, these cars peel paint like nuts. It had been repainted due to previously peeling paint, I'd bet $100 on that. 88-92? Chevy's used a really lousy lead based primer sooo it makes all the glorious paint come right off. I seem to recall there was a class action suit against them back in the day...

I'll keep saving...and setup my RRSP's I suppose..
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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Ford had paint peeling problems in the late 80's to early 90's, too. I remember our body shop used to have a 6 month waiting list for recall work due to peeling.
GM had the same problem. I believe it was the paint, not the prep work that caused it.

Maaco still sucks, though. You get what you pay for. If you knew what you were doing, and did all the prep work yourself, then they could spray it okay. But is you want them to get it right before painting.....forget it.
 

cmv

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Have you read about the deal with Maaco? Basically, painting cars is a tricky business where the majority of the work is in the prep. The quality of the work varies by Maaco locations. You can get a good paint job at a place that does poor prep by doing that work yourself. The key is to figure out what you are happy to do and then go and check out the Maaco. How do the cars look that they just finished? Notice any overspray? Look at the door jambs (open the door and look at the paint that would be hidden from view) and at the window molding. Overspray?

Basically, you want to look at the finished product and decide if you'd be happy with it. Then you need to decide why you are getting a paint job. Do you intend on hanging on to the car forever? Do you want it to look good for a year and then sell it before the possibly-shoddy paint job starts going south?

edit: Just read your quote -- I thought it was the list of standard paint jobs when I scanned. My advice is to skip it. You got a crappy car. Drive it and save for something nicer. There is nothing wrong with having a crappy car.