So... I'm confused...

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
DEMS HAVE RECEIVE MORE CORPORATE DONATIONS THEN THE REPUBLICANS...

I DON'T GET IT.

And your link title is incorrect. Republicans receive far and away more corporate special interest money than Democrats; and ...

hmm... corporations, lobbies... is it better either way?

Democrats receive far and away more money from Labor than Republicans.

some could argue that labor unions are just as evil as corporations...

Nobody likes it but that's the way it is ....

:beer:

You know a lot of people blame the rich for taking too much money but raising taxes on people making more then $250,000 a year is just going to hurt the small business people more then the big companies or the super rich. The people that employ me and some of you will be hurt and they will struggle to keep us employed. That's where I'm coming from... not necessarily in defense of the biggest companies but in defense of the companies similar and smaller to the one I work for, which is less then 400 people.

C'mon, don't tell me you honestly believe the trickle-down Reaganomics works? Reagan pulled that shit out of his ass, no respectable economics professor at the time thought it was a sound plan, yet somehow republicans latched onto it as something good.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: DomS

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
DEMS HAVE RECEIVE MORE CORPORATE DONATIONS THEN THE REPUBLICANS...

I DON'T GET IT.

where's the link for just presidential campaigns? That link only lets you choose all candidates (national, gubernatorial, senate, etc.)

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: Juddog
C'mon, don't tell me you honestly believe the trickle-down Reaganomics works? Reagan pulled that shit out of his ass, no respectable economics professor at the time thought it was a sound plan, yet somehow republicans latched onto it as something good.

To me it's not trickle down and it's been proven time and time again that the lower taxes are for rich and poor, the more revenue is generated and the lower unemployment is.

And I do believe it works, I know many people who lay people off because they can't afford them because the tax burden is too high with all the payroll taxes, income taxes etc... I know some who laid people off but couldn't keep the business because they needed the people they laid off to maintain production. Either way the more money you take from business owners, the less they have to spend on employees.

Also, how come people put all the blame on Bush and the federal government on the housing crash??? Put some there, put some on the companies but are the people who took bad loans and lied about their income not to blame... maybe some didn't even lie by they knew they wouldn't be able to keep the commitment or took a huge risk... are they not to blame at all in this????

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: jonks
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

Thank you for the link Jonks.

 

[jjones]

Election and re-election campaigns, and particularly campaign financing, are the root of most of the ills of the American political system. Campaigns should be financed by the state, in the case of state elections, or the federal government and no outside money should be allowed any connection whatsoever to any candidates' campaign.

I would gladly pay more taxes to support government funded election campaigns if that meant getting monied and corporate interests largely out of the picture. After all, these people running for office are running to represent us. Their souls should belong to the people instead of making them sell their souls to corporations in order to finance an election.

 

[The-Noid]

Then != Than, I fear for the future of this country. Luckily, I am applying for dual citizenship.

 

[QuantumPion]

When you're a Democrat, it's different.

It doesn't matter how personally corrupt you are, all that matters is your position on the issues. If you say you are against corporations, that's all that matters, even if you take millions from them.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
When you're a Democrat, it's different.

It doesn't matter how personally corrupt you are, all that matters is your position on the issues. If you say you are against corporations, that's all that matters, even if you take millions from them.

Exactly why Obama led passage a bipartisan bill on ethics reform, including making legislation and earmarks internet accessible, so that everyone could see how corrupt and anti-transparency he is.

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
When you're a Democrat, it's different.

It doesn't matter how personally corrupt you are, all that matters is your position on the issues. If you say you are against corporations, that's all that matters, even if you take millions from them.

Exactly why Obama led passage a bipartisan bill on ethics reform, including making legislation and earmarks internet accessible, so that everyone could see how corrupt and anti-transparency he is.

I wouldn't call Obama corrupt but the people he is associated with are not people I would associate with my ideal candidate. Either way I also wasn't aware that he had a leadership role on anything even on a bill, a lot of politicians will jump on an ethics reform bill so they say they can say they did. To me that is someone looking out for themselves and not for the country.

I can see the next thing someone is going to say and that's is this:

"So your saying Obama is out for himself and not for our country." And I would reply with: "Yes, I believe with the way this campaign has gone and how he changes his mind on everything or doesn't say anything, means he will say and do whatever he thinks will get him into the Whitehouse."

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
DEMS HAVE RECEIVE MORE CORPORATE DONATIONS THEN THE REPUBLICANS...

I DON'T GET IT.

You do get it. Both parties are nothing more than criminals and thieves. Drop 'em like a bad habit.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

That's why it's called Corporate America dummy.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
DEMS HAVE RECEIVE MORE CORPORATE DONATIONS THEN THE REPUBLICANS...

I DON'T GET IT.

You do get it. Both parties are nothing more than criminals and thieves. Drop 'em like a bad habit.

You can easily understand why you might be confused if you listen to a loon like this. Ask yourself this simple question. Drop them for what? Some third party turd. Oh I have it, you should write in God.

See if you can reason this out. You have your choice of two parties both of which are good and bad but only one or the other of which will win. Now vote for that party you think is the greater good and tell the fools to shut the fuck up till they have an answer as to who you should drop them for that has any chance at all of winning. It can't be any simpler to understand. These goofs are professional whiners who are forever dissatisfied because the world isn't perfect like in their dream state. Ignore them as the fringe loons that they are. Let they howl at old Moonbeam in the darkness of their night.