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Red Squirrel

Red Squirrel

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I sometimes think of getting an ebike that way I can use it to get to work in the summer months (so I don't show up all sweaty and crap), but then pedal it back home to get the exercise. But then I think of how often it rains and in all reality it wouldn't get that much use. Biking in the rain is miserable.
 
Lost_in_the_HTTP

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Probably one of those 'varies by location' things:


  1. https://cyclechronicles.com › do-bikes-have-a-speed-limit

    Do Bikes Have A Speed Limit? - The Cycle Chronicles​

    Dec 13, 2022Bikes must adhere to the same speed limits as cars and motorcycles, although the chances of you being fined for speeding on a bicycle are much less. It can and has happened, but only in scenarios where traffic officers felt that the cyclist was being reckless. In addition to adhering to the speed limits, cyclists must follow the other traffic ...


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    Do Speed Limits Apply to Bicycles? Exploring the Laws and Safety Tips ...​

    May 6, 2023What is do speed limits apply to bicycles The question of whether or not speed limits apply to bicycles is a common one. The short answer is yes, they do--generally speaking. In most states and municipalities, laws regulating the operation of motor vehicles also extend to bicycles. Because bikes are slower than cars, it might
 
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Red Squirrel said:
I sometimes think of getting an ebike that way I can use it to get to work in the summer months (so I don't show up all sweaty and crap), but then pedal it back home to get the exercise. But then I think of how often it rains and in all reality it wouldn't get that much use. Biking in the rain is miserable.
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I always found it quite fun - as long as it wasn't also freezing cold. Biking in the rain _and cold_ is not fun. Even worse if there's ice on the road.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Probably one of those 'varies by location' things:


  1. https://cyclechronicles.com › do-bikes-have-a-speed-limit

    Do Bikes Have A Speed Limit? - The Cycle Chronicles​

    Dec 13, 2022Bikes must adhere to the same speed limits as cars and motorcycles, although the chances of you being fined for speeding on a bicycle are much less. It can and has happened, but only in scenarios where traffic officers felt that the cyclist was being reckless. In addition to adhering to the speed limits, cyclists must follow the other traffic ...


  4. https://quicksoul.co › do-speed-limits-apply-to-bicycles-exploring-the-laws-and-safety-tips-complete-guide

    Do Speed Limits Apply to Bicycles? Exploring the Laws and Safety Tips ...​

    May 6, 2023What is do speed limits apply to bicycles The question of whether or not speed limits apply to bicycles is a common one. The short answer is yes, they do--generally speaking. In most states and municipalities, laws regulating the operation of motor vehicles also extend to bicycles. Because bikes are slower than cars, it might
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Yeah, not in the UK. Though they can do you for "furious cycling". Which, apparently, does not mean cycling when in a really bad mood.
 
Muse

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I think the fastest I got up to when I was cycling was about 35mph - and that was downhill. And it made me so nervous I never did it again. In fairness to me (for being a nervous nelly) it was a pretty busy road where I regularly see cars doing 60mph (notwithstanding the 20mph speed limit) and almost as regularly see the wreckage of cars that crashed into lampposts or garden walls.
(Speed limits don't apply to bicycles, as they only apply to 'motorised vehicles' - so probably would apply to an electric bike)
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I was riding up into the hills (~800 foot elevation climb) daily, and the descent was pretty quick. Started this in 2009. I saw cyclists speeding down that hill probably doing 25-30 mph, maybe more. I think I held it to 20 max, probably less usually (I had a bike computer displayed). The thought of what would happen to me if I skidded on a bad patch, hit a pothole, or had a flat, was plenty enough for me to keep pressure on my brakes.

I stopped riding into the hills when I developed tingling in my left hand. I thought it was a pinched nerve in my neck. However, I just had EMG testing a couple weeks ago and it was determined that I don't have any, which would be cervical radiculopathy. What I do have is severe carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands. I had an EMG 20 years ago for my left arm and the guy gave me an FYI saying he saw indications of some carpal tunnel.

I figure I'm going to have surgery for the CTS. Who knows, maybe I can get back riding the hills or other general recreational bike riding after that. Right now, I just bike to get around town.
 
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You'd need to be ripped and practiced to ride a small thing like that at highway speeds. Someone who can do that must have a powerful core and legs.

Which means only the most athletic and sexy females can ride. :p
 
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Muse said:
I was riding up into the hills (~800 foot elevation climb) daily, and the descent was pretty quick. I saw cyclists speeding down that hill probably doing 25-30 mph, maybe more. I think I held it to 20 max, probably less usually (I had a bike computer displayed). The thought of what would happen to me if I skidded on a bad patch, hit a pothole, or had a flat, was plenty enough for me to keep pressure on my brakes.

I stopped riding into the hills when I developed tingling in my left hand. I thought it was a pinched nerve in my neck. However, I just had EMG testing a couple weeks ago and it was determined that I don't have any, which would be cervical radiculopathy. What I do have is severe carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands. I had an EMG 20 years ago for my left arm and the guy told me he saw signed of some carpal tunnel at that time, just an FYI.

I figure I'm going to have surgery for the CTS. Who knows, maybe I can get back riding the hills or other general recreational bike riding after that. Right now, I just bike to get around town.
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I did once get a puncture that caused the front tyre to quickly deflate, while going downhill pretty fast (didn't have a speedometer at that point). Felt like a small triumph that I managed to slow down to a stop without crashing, as the deflated tyre seemed to mean losing all ability to steer.

I stopped cycling when I developed multiple health issues that caused problems (such as vertigo) - I _think_ most of them were due to the brain tumour plus hydrocephalus they ultimately found, but I still don't know much for sure. Still keep thinking I'll get back to it at some point, but the longer it is since I last was on the bike the harder it feels to restart.

What makes it hard to cycle in less-than-ideal-health isn't the effort of cycling itself, it's the sheer work of trying to keep safe with all the traffic around you - that's the exhausting part.
 
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pmv said:
What makes it hard to cycle in less-than-ideal-health isn't the effort of cycling itself, it's the sheer work of trying to keep safe with all the traffic around you - that's the exhausting part.
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Decades ago I'd ride streets that I avoid now as much as possible, i.e. busy streets. I see people cycling them and they appear to be oblivious to the danger they are in. I have to shake my head. It gives me the willies when I see them. I have warned some but they generally appear to ignore me when I do that so I don't bother anymore for the most part.

I'm really good on my bike, so good that it feels like part of my body. It's not me on a bike, it's me + bike as one. I only started wearing a helmet when my physical therapist lectured me, saying that a head injury accident would have my life on a different trajectory permanently. Next time I saw her I showed her my helmet and I've ridden with it since. This was about 4 years ago. I'm really safe on a bike and if anything even makes me nervous I ask myself what I did wrong to make that happen, and stop doing that. I'm that good. I try to do the same thing in my car, but it's harder in a car to avoid situations that are dangerous. Skating is a bit in between, but I certainly feel safer skating than driving. However, I'm a really safe driver. It's just that situationally driving in an urban environment is unavoidably somewhat dangerous, especially at highway speeds.
 
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Decades ago I'd ride streets that I avoid now as much as possible, i.e. busy streets. I see people cycling them and they appear to be oblivious to the danger they are in. I have to shake my head. It gives me the willies when I see them. I have warned some but they generally appear to ignore me when I do that so I don't bother anymore for the most part.

I'm really good on my bike, so good that it feels like part of my body. It's not me on a bike, it's me + bike as one. I only started wearing a helmet when my physical therapist lectured me, saying that a head injury accident would have my life on a different trajectory permanently. Next time I saw her I showed her my helmet and I've ridden with it since. This was about 4 years ago. I'm really safe on a bike and if anything even makes me nervous I ask myself what I did wrong to make that happen, and stop doing that. I'm that good.
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Remembering it now, the other part of it I didn't like was how angry it made me, and how much it gave me a negative view of human nature. I found that motorists tended to exclusively follow two rules - 'might is right' and 'it's all good as long as I can get away with it'. Thus you had to constantly be alert and, also, fast.

Which makes you aware of how much that's a fundamental rule of much of human behaviour. In other respects I loved it, though, wish I'd discovered it much earlier, before my health problems started.
 
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pmv said:
Remembering it now, the other part of it I didn't like was how angry it made me, and how much it gave me a negative view of human nature. I found that motorists tended to exclusively follow two rules - 'might is right' and 'it's all good as long as I can get away with it'. Thus you had to constantly be alert and, also, fast.

Which makes you aware of how much that's a fundamental rule of much of human behaviour. In other respects I loved it, though, wish I'd discovered it much earlier, before my health problems started.
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I don't drive much. Before I took up golf again in July, so, during the pandemic, no golf, and no driving either until I was vaccinated. I'd then drive once every 2 weeks, an errand run, hitting 1-4 (usually 2) stores. I did my shopping run 2 days ago. I was in no hurry at all. Didn't really care how fast or slow things went. I actually enjoyed some incidents where I showed courtesy to some people and saw them acknowledge it. It's actually possible to feel your humanity awakened while driving. I think many people are incapable of having experiences like that.
 
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I can get angry in a car, but I'm not going to the road rage level. Those people are pretty low on the sanity scale.
 
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Saw this, immediately thought of Quebert...

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Well shit, that escalated quickly. This is exactly why I haven't even looked into finding a group of people to go on group rides with lol. I've had 1 crash, a car drifted into the bike lane. I swerved to avoid them and hit the curb and went flying. Was going maybe 25, had a full face helmet, leather jacket with armor, armor boots and armor gloves and could barely get out bed for 10 days and was still sore for a week after that. Mostly everyone in this video seemed to be a fucking idiot. I don't know what is it, but when scooter or Suron (electric motocycle) people form a large group they seem to go out of their way to ride like extreme dipshits. And fuckers like the fuckers in this video are gonna be the reason all sorts of laws will start getting introduced and the cops will begin to actually crack down. People like me who ride normally will get shit on because of clowns who ride with no regard for themselves or anybody else.
 
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