So i'm being accused of a bomb threat **UPDATE 2 DEC.5 7:30 PM**

[Firebot]

Canada is not the US, we have nothing even remotly ressembling the Patriot Act allowing for searches like this, especially from a school. We also sure as heck don't have the RIAA up our butt, and there's nothing illegals about MP3's here so they illegally deleted your personal property.

Get tough, and threaten to seek legal action if they continue to bother you and don't hand back all your computer priviledges. What they are doing is unconstitutional. You need a lawyer since your civil rights are being violated.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by: Koharski
this is the police now. not just the school.

as for the thing with my dads computer, they asked if they could search 'my' computers, and that somehow now includes every computer in my house.

you're right, I shouldn't have let them search my stuff but I was under the impression that it would CLEAR my name, not that they would pull all of this bullshit on me.


but im going to class, i'll put in an update when I get home.

You left yourself open to the "bullsh!t". At this point I would Lawyer up, you basically set yourself up to be harassed. You allowed them to bend you over and now you probably cannot even sue them.

 

[lokiju]

Should have gotten a lawyer at the first moment they questioned you.

 

[Pacemaker]

I think I would have encripted my hard drives and then let them search. I would have even said "good luck" to the school official when handing it to him.

 

[Atheus]

School? As in high school?... man, I would have laughed in their face.

Originally posted by: Pacemaker
I think I would have encripted my hard drives and then let them search. I would have even said "good luck" to the school official when handing it to him.

Yea that's just incriminating yourself.

 

[funboy6942]

Lawyer-Sue-No more need for school

 

[Pacemaker]

Originally posted by: Atheus
School? As in high school?... man, I would have laughed in their face.

Originally posted by: Pacemaker
I think I would have encripted my hard drives and then let them search. I would have even said "good luck" to the school official when handing it to him.

Yea that's just incriminating yourself.

Ok so now mearly protection your information makes you guilty? They have to prove you are guilty. However, you don't have to prove you are innocent. I would do that even if I did nothing wrong so they have to call the FBI or the department of homeland security to get the data only to find out.... I didn't do it.

Guess what? I told you I didn't, if you don't believe me I'm sure not going to make it easy for you to frame me.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Atheus
School? As in high school?... man, I would have laughed in their face.

Originally posted by: Pacemaker
I think I would have encripted my hard drives and then let them search. I would have even said "good luck" to the school official when handing it to him.

Yea that's just incriminating yourself.

How so? Maybe you just encrypt your hard drive for security reasons. Encrypted hard drive != guilty.

 

[Feneant2]

Mp3s are not illegal to own in Canada, just distribute. So assuming he doesn't have an FTP or BitTorrent seeding them, they should not have been allowed to delete them.

I would definitely talk to a lawyer if I was you...

 

[yhelothar]

I love all the 20/20 hindsight suggestions in this thread..
but this is a good lesson to not bend over at all costs.

 

[Rage187]

at which point don't you get a lawyer???

 

[Scarpozzi]

If they ask about the songs that were deleted, tell them they weren't illegally downloaded....tell them that you copied them from CDs you bought.

As for the rest, get a lawyer and protect yourself. For future reference, NEVER let anyone search your computers without a warrant. I wouldn't trust anyone on my computers, EVER....no matter if it clears my name or not. If they only have a suspision that you're the culprit without any evidence, they have no business occusing you to begin with.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
If they ask about the songs that were deleted, tell them they weren't illegally downloaded....tell them that you copied them from CDs you bought.

As for the rest, get a lawyer and protect yourself. For future reference, NEVER let anyone search your computers without a warrant. I wouldn't trust anyone on my computers, EVER....no matter if it clears my name or not. If they only have a suspision that you're the culprit without any evidence, they have no business occusing you to begin with.

There is no such thing as illegally downloading songs in Canada. It is only illegal to distribute them.

 

[Spineshank]

I would have purposely loaded up an old hard drive full of porn and let them search that.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

This is why you never voluntarily give up your rights to anything. OP should have never consented to a search of his computers. "BEcause you're good with computers" is NOT probable cause. Any idiot can send an e-mail.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Koharski
but im going to class, i'll put in an update when I get home.

Stop.

(Hammertime.)

Call your parents.

Lawyer up.

Now.

- M4H

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: deadlyapp
I think talking to a lawyer would be your best bet at this point.

^

 

[mercanucaribe]

Well if there are police now, you probably do need a lawyer.

 

[josepavento]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Koharski
this is the police now. not just the school.

as for the thing with my dads computer, they asked if they could search 'my' computers, and that somehow now includes every computer in my house.

you're right, I shouldn't have let them search my stuff but I was under the impression that it would CLEAR my name, not that they would pull all of this bullshit on me.


but im going to class, i'll put in an update when I get home.

Are you a minor? If you are, you realize that you can't give permission to search property that isn't yours.

Wrong. (In the US)

Two issues. First issue is whether or not a minor can consent to a search. As long as the child is older, has a right to access the property freely, is living on the premises, has the right to invite others over at will, etc.. Could the child consent to a search of the parent's bedroom? No. The parent's have a reasonable expectation to privacy. Communal living areas... yes. There is joint control over these areas, and a much lower expectation of privacy.

Second issue is whether or not the OP gave consent for Dad's computer...and let's say he did give consent... whether or not he had the authority to consent to a search. Maybe the OP uses Dad's computer regularly....

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Atheus
School? As in high school?... man, I would have laughed in their face.

Originally posted by: Pacemaker
I think I would have encripted my hard drives and then let them search. I would have even said "good luck" to the school official when handing it to him.

Yea that's just incriminating yourself.

How so? Maybe you just encrypt your hard drive for security reasons. Encrypted hard drive != guilty.

By giving them an encrypted drive without the key, you are telling them there is something in there you don't want them to see. Yes, there are plenty of reasons to encrypt your drive, but how it would look in court?

Prosecutor: "The defendant's computer was secured with a system commonly used by terrorists to hide the evidence of their activities. He has consistently refused to supply the password to this system. I ask you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what is he trying to hide?"

 

[waggy]

hahahah damn.

you actually trusted tehm? not a good move.

you never trust anyone who is looking to get you in trouble. only person you should trust is a lawyer. ahh but at heast you learned your leason eh?

 

[MisterJackson]

I know this is a bit of paranoid thinking but you may wanna be mindful of the fact that they could have installed a keylogger on your pc's while they had them. If they did you've got a case for something I'd think. I normally wouldn't suspect something like that, but these people sound like they're on a mission and will do whatever it takes.

 

[Al Neri]

Que Nada

 

[Old Hippie]

you actually trusted tehm? not a good move.

There ya have it.

 

[chambersc]

Wow, you let them search your computers.

Broke rule #1 and #2...Deny, Deny, Deny and Lawyer up.