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zinfamous

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It's why they call it faith. It's part belief and part trust. Don't expect to understand what you don't know. For us to understand who and what God is and how everything came to be, we would more than likely have to have an IQ of 10,000. Our meager human minds that only formed, what? 300,000 years ago? simply can't comprehend who or what God is and the mystery's of the cosmos. And we may never know. At least not in this form of life we have. Perhaps in spirit we will have the answers. But judging by the way things work, I bet you have to earn that knowledge. I suppose some souls are older and wiser.

The thing is, we actually know a lot more of the things that you think we don't know, and just conveniently toss it up to faith. Just because you don't know it, or don't understand it, doesn't mean the fact of what it is ceases to be. If it's faith to you, fine--just don't confuse your ignorance for some universal truth.

And putting a little bit of science in with a whole lot of god (let's be honest--those are never equal mixtures for you), is a tacit acknowledgement that you really aren't interested in science. It's lipservice that really serves no purpose, because you probably don't understand that it exposes you as no more wise than you pretend to be. This isn't an either/or when it comes to "I accept some science where it doesn't intrude on my faith." Science is just a way of knowing things, it isn't "the thing," but it reveals the truth in a way that fundamentally rejects the tenants of faith. Either you accept faith gathering as your way of gaining knowledge, or you accept observational, testable means to do this. Science doesn't just stop at things you don't understand.
 
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Charmonium

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One day, they will introduce the Boeing Sardine Series of aircrafts for commercial flights.
Introducing Delta's new economy class - level 1 of 5 levels

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Lifer
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It's why they call it faith. It's part belief and part trust. Don't expect to understand what you don't know. For us to understand who and what God is and how everything came to be, we would more than likely have to have an IQ of 10,000. Our meager human minds that only formed, what? 300,000 years ago? simply can't comprehend who or what God is and the mystery's of the cosmos. And we may never know. At least not in this form of life we have. Perhaps in spirit we will have the answers. But judging by the way things work, I bet you have to earn that knowledge. I suppose some souls are older and wiser.

6000. Believe it.
 

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Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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The thing is, we actually know a lot more of the things that you think we don't know, and just conveniently toss it up to faith. Just because you don't know it, or don't understand it, doesn't mean the fact of what it is ceases to be. If it's faith to you, fine--just don't confuse your ignorance for some universal truth.

And putting a little bit of science in with a whole lot of god (let's be honest--those are never equal mixtures for you), is a tacit acknowledgement that you really aren't interested in science. It's lipservice that really serves no purpose, because you probably don't understand that it exposes you as no more wise than you pretend to be. This isn't an either/or when it comes to "I accept some science where it doesn't intrude on my faith." Science is just a way of knowing things, it isn't "the thing," but it reveals the truth in a way that fundamentally rejects the tenants of faith. Either you accept faith gathering as your way of gaining knowledge, or you accept observational, testable means to do this. Science doesn't just stop at things you don't understand.

"The trouble with the world is not that people know too little; it's that they know so many things that just aren't so." ~Serious Sam (Clemens)