So if John Stockton were in his prime today

[tfinch2]

I say yes.

Discuss.

 

[Jadow]

I say...NO

Stockton was good, but he couldn't take over a game like Nash.

 

[chuckywang]

John Stockton holds the NBA record in both assists and steals. Can you think of a person who holds the all time league record in TWO of the most important stats in his sport? Only one player comes to mind: Wayne Gretzky.

 

[Lorax]

stockton would be better:

1. the nba made rule changes which benefit the offense.
2. the suns run a system which inflates stats.

but nash is still pretty good.

 

[Barfo]

Stockton > Nash

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Lorax
stockton would be better:

1. the nba made rule changes which benefit the offense.
2. the suns run a system which inflates stats.

but nash is still pretty good.

There is no argument that Nash is good. I just find it weird how everyone is on Nash like he's the best ever when someone like Stockton who is a better overall player wouldn't even make the top-20 in MVP voting.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Lorax
stockton would be better:

1. the nba made rule changes which benefit the offense.
2. the suns run a system which inflates stats.

but nash is still pretty good.

I am not a basketball fan, but how does a team inflate stats?

 

[Pacfanweb]

Depends on whether you are talking about putting Stockton in Nash's place, or if he'd still be feeding the ball to an also-still-in-his-prime Karl Malone.
I think some of Stockton's impressive stats are so because of playing with Karl all those years.

It'd be interesting to see how Stockton would do without a go-to Hall of Famer to pass to.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Depends on whether you are talking about putting Stockton in Nash's place, or if he'd still be feeding the ball to an also-still-in-his-prime Karl Malone.
I think some of Stockton's impressive stats are so because of playing with Karl all those years.

It'd be interesting to see how Stockton would do without a go-to Hall of Famer to pass to.

You say that like Nash is passing to chopped liver. He's playing along side 2 top-15 players in the league.

 

[Miramonti]

I think so. Stockton was an outstanding defender as well as a great playmaker and shooter.

 

[KingGheedora]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Depends on whether you are talking about putting Stockton in Nash's place, or if he'd still be feeding the ball to an also-still-in-his-prime Karl Malone.
I think some of Stockton's impressive stats are so because of playing with Karl all those years.

It'd be interesting to see how Stockton would do without a go-to Hall of Famer to pass to.

Nash isn't passing to multiple all-stars, (one of whom has Hall of Fame potential)?

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: KingGheedora

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Depends on whether you are talking about putting Stockton in Nash's place, or if he'd still be feeding the ball to an also-still-in-his-prime Karl Malone.
I think some of Stockton's impressive stats are so because of playing with Karl all those years.

It'd be interesting to see how Stockton would do without a go-to Hall of Famer to pass to.

Nash isn't passing to multiple all-stars, (one of whom has Hall of Fame potential)?

Yes, he is: Marion and Stoudamire. Not to mention the 6th man of the year in Barbosa.

 

[trmiv]

This conversation is meaningless because Magic would eat both of them alive. Magic = greatest point guard in NBA history.

 

[toolboxolio]

who the F are you talking about, geaser?

 

[ballmode]

On D and thats it. Maybe

 

[trmiv]

What the hell is a geaser?

 

[GPett]

Stockton was the epitomy of the dirty player.

That guy would elbow, step on, shoulder but, grab, hold, and kick you when you were down.

Some players that have a star reputation are allowed to get away with more holding and tugging. Stockton was that guy.

 

[ntdz]

No...Stockton doesn't have the scoring ability that Nash has. There's a reason Nash has won 2 MVP's (should be 3), and Stockton has none. Stockton wasn't even the best player on his team...

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Lorax
stockton would be better:

1. the nba made rule changes which benefit the offense.
2. the suns run a system which inflates stats.

but nash is still pretty good.

Actually scoring is down from when stockton played, try again. Also, the NBA allowed zone defenses, which is not a benefit to the offense.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
John Stockton holds the NBA record in both assists and steals. Can you think of a person who holds the all time league record in TWO of the most important stats in his sport? Only one player comes to mind: Wayne Gretzky.

Those two stats were only kept officially very recently.

 

[HamSupLo]

amare + nash > stockton + malone

 

[Kanalua]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I say yes.

Discuss.

I think Stockton to Malone would be sweeping up the NBA right now...

But the Jazz are pretty good right now, too... Just sucks Stockton to Malone happened during the reign of his Air-ness...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: KingGheedora

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Depends on whether you are talking about putting Stockton in Nash's place, or if he'd still be feeding the ball to an also-still-in-his-prime Karl Malone.
I think some of Stockton's impressive stats are so because of playing with Karl all those years.

It'd be interesting to see how Stockton would do without a go-to Hall of Famer to pass to.

Nash isn't passing to multiple all-stars, (one of whom has Hall of Fame potential)?

Yes, he is: Marion and Stoudamire. Not to mention the 6th man of the year in Barbosa.

Stoudamire SUCKS. He's a nothing without Nash. Marion is ok and Barbosa is actually quite decent too, but Stoudamire isn't anyone spectacular. Without Nash, he would be over.

 

[compuwiz1]

His autographed ball I have in my closet says yes.

 

[fustercluck]

No way, Nash is awesome. Nash is +2 on Stockton already.