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So if I do buy an Apple ...

You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
 
if you're using osx, it'll be pretty much like running bsd with apple emulation built in. I imagine you'll probably be spending lots of time on mac forums looking for software deals because, iirc, mac software retails for an order of magnitude more than pc software. But you could always go open source....at which point you have to ask yourself....why aren't u just running bsd on a pc?
 
The only people I know who WILLINGLY own Macs are those who used them through college and now use them at work.

Otherwise its a PC world out there bub.
~wnied~
 
If you must get away from Windows, go with a unix based os, Unix, Linux, BSD. Depends how much time you want to spend learning some new things but it's definitly worth it.
 
Originally posted by: Mani
You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
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That's not 100% true. Check out VersionTracker, it's basically "the list" for Mac software. Many shareware apps availible for the PC have a Mac equivilent. It's a smaller market though, so the price is a bit higher. Otherwise no, you aren't missing any particular app/function besides games on a Mac.
 
you can play super breakout and i think Quake 3 is coming out soon for macs.
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There are plenty of games for mac, and he said other than games.
You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
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That is quite false. Not the same titles, but there are plenty of free/shareware tools and games.
I imagine you'll probably be spending lots of time on mac forums looking for software deals because, iirc, mac software retails for an order of magnitude more than pc software.
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I don't understand what you mean by that. "for an order of magnitude"

Seriously, we're supposed to try to help this person, not spew biased and uneducated remarks.
 
Originally posted by: dejitaru
you can play super breakout and i think Quake 3 is coming out soon for macs.
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There are plenty of games for mac, and he said other than games.
You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
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That is quite false. Not the same titles, but there are plenty of free/shareware tools and games.
I imagine you'll probably be spending lots of time on mac forums looking for software deals because, iirc, mac software retails for an order of magnitude more than pc software.
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I don't understand what you mean by that. "for an order of magnitude"

Seriously, we're supposed to try to help this person, not spew biased and uneducated remarks.
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I used to work an awful lot with our purchasing agent. We had 12 macs on the network and the cost for software licenses for those 12 machines cost nearly as much as it cost us to outfit a 3 labs of PCs @ 30machines per lab. This was all at what our supplier asked, so my point was that it would be extra important for him to look for places that sell software reasonably priced.
 
Originally posted by: dejitaru
you can play super breakout and i think Quake 3 is coming out soon for macs.
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There are plenty of games for mac, and he said other than games.
You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
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That is quite false. Not the same titles, but there are plenty of free/shareware tools and games.
I imagine you'll probably be spending lots of time on mac forums looking for software deals because, iirc, mac software retails for an order of magnitude more than pc software.
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I don't understand what you mean by that. "for an order of magnitude"

Seriously, we're supposed to try to help this person, not spew biased and uneducated remarks.
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I guess it was inevitable that a zealous mac d00d would come in here and start defending the hardware they paid too much for. Look, by virtue of there being a drastically smaller customer base for Macs, there will be proportionally less shareware/freeware titles available. There may be one to fit your need, but there's far less of a chance of that since by sheer numbers there are so few developers of freeware and shareware when compared to a PC. It's almost a certainty that at least at one point, there will be a great shareware/freeware app that ATers are raving about that there is no decent Mac equivalent for.

M4H, you'll also miss dealing with non-proprietary parts, being able to upgrade your computer cheaply, and the amount of freedom you have with PCs in customizing your hardware. With Macs, you gain simplicity and arguably some elegance, but is the tradeoff in customizability worth it?
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Not to mention the weekly IE security holes, and the TCPA/Palladium BS.
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The reason behind my Switch. Apple apparently is going to fight DRM to the death, and I want to be alongside them.

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: dejitaru
you can play super breakout and i think Quake 3 is coming out soon for macs.
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There are plenty of games for mac, and he said other than games.
You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
Click to expand...
That is quite false. Not the same titles, but there are plenty of free/shareware tools and games.
I imagine you'll probably be spending lots of time on mac forums looking for software deals because, iirc, mac software retails for an order of magnitude more than pc software.
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I don't understand what you mean by that. "for an order of magnitude"

Seriously, we're supposed to try to help this person, not spew biased and uneducated remarks.
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I guess it was inevitable that a zealous mac d00d would come in here and start defending the hardware they paid too much for. Look, by virtue of there being a drastically smaller customer base for Macs, there will be proportionally less shareware/freeware titles available. There may be one to fit your need, but there's far less of a chance of that since by sheer numbers there are so few developers of freeware and shareware when compared to a PC. It's almost a certainty that at least at one point, there will be a great shareware/freeware app that ATers are raving about that there is no decent Mac equivalent for.

M4H, you'll also miss dealing with non-proprietary parts, being able to upgrade your computer cheaply, and the amount of freedom you have with PCs in customizing your hardware. With Macs, you gain simplicity and arguably some elegance, but is the tradeoff in customizability worth it?
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I don't know about you, but I generally don't install a lot of freeware or shareware crap on my PC. I prefer to avoid issues with viruses and embedded spyware, not to mention unpredictable effects caused by badly written software. For OSX, however, you can run any number of open-source apps written for BSD.
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: dejitaru
you can play super breakout and i think Quake 3 is coming out soon for macs.
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There are plenty of games for mac, and he said other than games.
You'll miss the ability to just jump on the web and d/l a shareware or freeware app that you need.
Click to expand...
That is quite false. Not the same titles, but there are plenty of free/shareware tools and games.
I imagine you'll probably be spending lots of time on mac forums looking for software deals because, iirc, mac software retails for an order of magnitude more than pc software.
Click to expand...
I don't understand what you mean by that. "for an order of magnitude"

Seriously, we're supposed to try to help this person, not spew biased and uneducated remarks.
Click to expand...

I guess it was inevitable that a zealous mac d00d would come in here and start defending the hardware they paid too much for. Look, by virtue of there being a drastically smaller customer base for Macs, there will be proportionally less shareware/freeware titles available. There may be one to fit your need, but there's far less of a chance of that since by sheer numbers there are so few developers of freeware and shareware when compared to a PC. It's almost a certainty that at least at one point, there will be a great shareware/freeware app that ATers are raving about that there is no decent Mac equivalent for.

M4H, you'll also miss dealing with non-proprietary parts, being able to upgrade your computer cheaply, and the amount of freedom you have with PCs in customizing your hardware. With Macs, you gain simplicity and arguably some elegance, but is the tradeoff in customizability worth it?
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I don't know about you, but I generally don't install a lot of freeware or shareware crap on my PC. I prefer to avoid issues with viruses and embedded spyware, not to mention unpredictable effects caused by badly written software. For OSX, however, you can run any number of open-source apps written for BSD.
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I think you can run linux binaries too.
 
Originally posted by: everman
If you must get away from Windows, go with a unix based os, Unix, Linux, BSD. Depends how much time you want to spend learning some new things but it's definitly worth it.
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As much as I love linux or even more so freebsd, I really can appreciate a desktop that just works with no tweaking, and hammering. Also can I get photoshop for linux or bsd? Nope, and gimp doesn't cut it, and this applies for quite a bit of software I have to use so I can understand why you'd choose osX over the others. Fit and finish are always appreciated
 
I've been using a PC for over 10 years, and have always been a mac-basher. I finally bought a Powerbook a couple weeks ago and I am amazed at the new things I find every single time I use it.

OSX is an incredibly robust, stable, and polished OS. I don't have to worry about downloading a new security fix every week, I don't get apps giving me random errors for no good reason and bringing the entire rig crashing down, and I have the ultimate choice of basking in the Carbonized glory of the system or getting down and dirty and doing everything in a UNIX command line.
 
would you be getting a notebook or a desktop? those notebooks are sexy! only sonys come close and they're quite a ways off.
 
The one thing I really miss is windowsXP's cleartype. OSX's font anti-aliasing looks great(much better than cleartype) at higher resolutions and when the font sizes are relativly large (greater than 15pt or so), but at low resolution it looks like crap. Im forced to increase the font size to ~13pt or else most text is pretty much unreadable. Im using an ibook with a 12"XGA screen, so I would prefer to use a smaller font for most of my documents so I dont have to do a lot of scrolling back and forth, unfortunatley, it's just not possible in certain applications (Web browsers for example). Also OSX (10.2 Jaguar) does not allow you to completly disable the font anti-aliasing, instead you can disable it for certain font sizes ( i.e disable anti-aliasing for all fonts < 12 pt.), but it doesnt work in all applications.

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I guess it was inevitable that a zealous mac d00d would come in here and start defending the hardware they paid too much for. Look, by virtue of there being a drastically smaller customer base for Macs, there will be proportionally less shareware/freeware titles available. There may be one to fit your need, but there's far less of a chance of that since by sheer numbers there are so few developers of freeware and shareware when compared to a PC.
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I never mentioned relative figures. I said there are plenty of shareware titles for Mac. I was commenting that comments such as " i think Quake 3 is coming out soon" have no place.
It's almost a certainty that at least at one point, there will be a great shareware/freeware app that ATers are raving about that there is no decent Mac equivalent for.
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I disagree. But in that case, there would be some Mac shareware title for which there would be no PC equivalent. Get over yourself.
 
Originally posted by: gentobu
The one thing I really miss is windowsXP's cleartype. OSX's font anti-aliasing looks great(much better than cleartype) at higher resolutions and when the font sizes are relativly large (greater than 15pt or so), but at low resolution it looks like crap. Im forced to increase the font size to ~13pt or else most text is pretty much unreadable. Im using an ibook with a 12"XGA screen, so I would prefer to use a smaller font for most of my documents so I dont have to do a lot of scrolling back and forth, unfortunatley, it's just not possible in certain applications (Web browsers for example). Also OSX (10.2 Jaguar) does not allow you to completly disable the font anti-aliasing, instead you can disable it for certain font sizes ( i.e disable anti-aliasing for all fonts < 12 pt.), but it doesnt work in all applications.
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have u tried clear type on 12" xp comp? not so hot either. then again higher res on bigger screen always looks nicer. its the 12" screen limitation i bet. i turned off font smoothing on my windows laptop.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: gentobu
The one thing I really miss is windowsXP's cleartype. OSX's font anti-aliasing looks great(much better than cleartype) at higher resolutions and when the font sizes are relativly large (greater than 15pt or so), but at low resolution it looks like crap. Im forced to increase the font size to ~13pt or else most text is pretty much unreadable. Im using an ibook with a 12"XGA screen, so I would prefer to use a smaller font for most of my documents so I dont have to do a lot of scrolling back and forth, unfortunatley, it's just not possible in certain applications (Web browsers for example). Also OSX (10.2 Jaguar) does not allow you to completly disable the font anti-aliasing, instead you can disable it for certain font sizes ( i.e disable anti-aliasing for all fonts < 12 pt.), but it doesnt work in all applications.
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have u tried clear type on 12" xp comp? not so hot either. then again higher res on bigger screen always looks nicer. its the 12" screen limitation i bet. i turned off font smoothing on my windows laptop.
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True, I have been comparing my ibooks 12" screen to the 14" on my dell inspiron(also XGA). Still take a look at this pic. That is really what the fonts look like! I havent compared the fonts on a 12" windows notebook yet, so I will go down to compusa tommorrow and take a look.
 
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