So if guns serve to preserve your freedom

[_Rick_]

premise of a large military able to crush every rebellion?

That's not what I said.
What I said is, that
a) if your insurrection reaches critical mass, it doesn't matter if everyone has guns
b) if it doesn't reach critical mass, the military will resist you, as will all the other armed citizens.

An insurrection where everybody has guns will only be more bloody, not necessarily more successful.

And again, look at Libya. How would additional hand guns have helped the rebels? I asked this before, but no answer was forthcoming. What enabled this revolution was western air support and air superiority.

Revolutions work by first destabilizing the economy, which then destabilizes the government in the long term. Disobedience is the key, not killing "the enemy".

I also find it intriguing, that many here expect the military not to fire back, but keep guns with the express purpose of shooting their own countrymen. If you are okay with shooting fellow citizens (that's what those guns are for, after all) how can you realistically expect that the military will not do the same? This logic appears flawed to me.

 

[brandonb]

monovillage: remember the storming of that religious compound a few years back (Waco siege)? The perfect example of a militant, armed insurgent small scale uprising. While the acting agents were mostly police forces, those same police forces are also getting more heavily militarized, and I for one would expect the military to initially at least follow the example set by police forces (the National guard got involved in the Waco siege).

You should not really use Waco as an example.

Also watch this about Ruby Ridge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRlx1H4iAo

 

[Texashiker]

monovillage: remember the storming of that religious compound a few years back (Waco siege)? The perfect example of a militant, armed insurgent small scale uprising.

If you go around kicking in doors like the government agents did, expect to get shot like common criminals.

David koresh made regular trips to town. The local sheriff could have picked david up in town without incident.

It sure is funny that no modified weapons were every presented in the trial of the survivors.

Waco is a perfect example of an out of control government.

 

[_Rick_]

Waco is a perfect example of an out of control government.

Precisely. And it shows how little it helps if you have hand guns.