So I was browsing EBAY.....do alot of people do this?

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dbot

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
What part of "buyer beware" did mommy and daddy fail to teach you?
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I obviously recognized the "twist" of this auction when I posted it on ATOT. Who was fooled?
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Then why all the righteous indignation by you and others in this thread???
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...the point is, the seller is obviously tryin to trick people into buying his stuff. How hard is that to understand?
 
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ReiAyanami

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They're not trying to trick the buyer, they're trying to trick eBay. Anybody's a fool if they think they can get that software for $.01 cents.

The best you can do is report it and hope eBay suspends the user.
I doubt eBay has any live person CSR's left. They've all been fired in the name of increasing stock prices.
 
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Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: dbot
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
What part of "buyer beware" did mommy and daddy fail to teach you?
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I obviously recognized the "twist" of this auction when I posted it on ATOT. Who was fooled?
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Then why all the righteous indignation by you and others in this thread???
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...the point is, the seller is obviously tryin to trick people into buying his stuff. How hard is that to understand?
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Um, for me it's quite hard. How is this person possibly trying to trick anyone into buying this? Please explain (this should be good).

 
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krunchykrome

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Um, for me it's quite hard. How is this person possibly trying to trick anyone into buying this? Please explain (this should be good).
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The seller isn't trying to really trick someone into actually buying the product. But we all know that when we click on an auction item, we are actually doing so because of the price (or thats at least one of the few reasons.) If the price isnt right, we wouldnt click on the item at all. This seller is wrongfully advertising his/her auction. This way, the seller is getting more clicks on his auction than he would normally get, due to his deceiving ad.

It's like a retail store holding posting a sign in the window stating that they are selling a leather jacket for $5.00. You walk in and realize that to purchase the jacket for $5.00, you must first purchase $200 worth of clothing. Wouldn't that make you mad? You were lured in, but you wouldnt buy the jacket along wiht the $200 worth of other crap.
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
They're not trying to trick the buyer, they're trying to trick eBay. Anybody's a fool if they think they can get that software for $.01 cents.

The best you can do is report it and hope eBay suspends the user.
I doubt eBay has any live person CSR's left. They've all been fired in the name of increasing stock prices.
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I think that they have live CSRs for the bigger power sellers ;)
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Um, for me it's quite hard. How is this person possibly trying to trick anyone into buying this? Please explain (this should be good).
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The seller isn't trying to really trick someone into actually buying the product. But we all know that when we click on an auction item, we are actually doing so because of the price (or thats at least one of the few reasons.) If the price isnt right, we wouldnt click on the item at all. This seller is wrongfully advertising his/her auction. This way, the seller is getting more clicks on his auction than he would normally get, due to his deceiving ad.

It's like a retail store holding posting a sign in the window stating that they are selling a leather jacket for $5.00. You walk in and realize that to purchase the jacket for $5.00, you must first purchase $200 worth of clothing. Wouldn't that make you mad? You were lured in, but you wouldnt buy the jacket along wiht the $200 worth of other crap.
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You got mad because you clicked on an eBay auction link, saw the shipping costs, and wasted 3 seconds of your life?

If you're really pissed, report the guy to eBay. His auctions will be cancelled.
 
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konichiwa

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Um, for me it's quite hard. How is this person possibly trying to trick anyone into buying this? Please explain (this should be good).
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The seller isn't trying to really trick someone into actually buying the product. But we all know that when we click on an auction item, we are actually doing so because of the price (or thats at least one of the few reasons.) If the price isnt right, we wouldnt click on the item at all. This seller is wrongfully advertising his/her auction. This way, the seller is getting more clicks on his auction than he would normally get, due to his deceiving ad.

It's like a retail store holding posting a sign in the window stating that they are selling a leather jacket for $5.00. You walk in and realize that to purchase the jacket for $5.00, you must first purchase $200 worth of clothing. Wouldn't that make you mad? You were lured in, but you wouldnt buy the jacket along wiht the $200 worth of other crap.
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Uh sort of like when they say FREE JACKET ...

When you buy one leather jacket, get another free!

It's called marketing, and it's designed to catch your eye with the stuff you want to see and then force you to read the fine print. Cry me a river with the "wrongfully advertising" the auction to get more clicks. EVERYONE who buys from eBay knows that people charge more than actual shipping to cover packaging materials, eBay fees, paypal fees, etc. This is no different.

It would be a scam if after you bought the item the invoice email said shipping is $200, but it SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE AUCTION.
 
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konichiwa

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Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
If you're really pissed, report the guy to eBay. His auctions will be cancelled.
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Really, they would cancel his auction?
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It is against eBay TOS
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Please quote from eBay's TOS where this isn't allowed.
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http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-circumventing.html

Users may not avoid eBay fees

Unreasonable shipping or handling costs - listings with low prices but unreasonably high shipping or handling costs.
 
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RagingBITCH

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kami333

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
They're not trying to trick the buyer, they're trying to trick eBay. Anybody's a fool if they think they can get that software for $.01 cents.

The best you can do is report it and hope eBay suspends the user.
I doubt eBay has any live person CSR's left. They've all been fired in the name of increasing stock prices.
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I think that they have live CSRs for the bigger power sellers ;)
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They do, and they are pretty helpful
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While I do not necessarily agree with the seller's method, I can sympathisize with him (paid about $500 in eBay fees one month).
 
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waggy

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heh none of his other auctions are like this.

while i agree ebay fees are pretty expensive. What this guy doing is wrong.
 
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Slickone

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Wonder if the people saying this is OK to do read every single word in the paperwork when buying a house or car. I doubt it. And if they would think it's OK if they failed to catch something in the paperwork that costed them a few thousand dollars.


This auction is similar to the one in the OP. $60 shipping and there's no shipping involved.
 
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edro

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I have the Circumventing eBay Fees fraud report page bookmarked and I report that everytime I see it. I always check the shipping costs, but I know some people don't, and I hate to see the eBay community screwed over by these people.

BTW, I just reported that auction as well.
 
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rudder

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: Amused
Why do you hate them? Because you're too stupid to check shipping fees first?

Sorry, but people who screw themselves by not reading the fine print have no one to blame but themselves.
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because they are purposely trying to trick the purchaser.
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Well if it was buy it now for $90 and shipping for $90 that would be different. Come on, they are listing an expensive software product for a penny. If you don't see that as a trick you would have to be pretty dense.
 
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edro

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Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
If you're really pissed, report the guy to eBay. His auctions will be cancelled.
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Really, they would cancel his auction?
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It is against eBay TOS
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Please quote from eBay's TOS where this isn't allowed.
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Circumventing Fees The final auction price is not based off the shipping price. He is screwing eBay.

 
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Jzero

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This guys is what drives up the fees. I'm not worried about the buyer, this guy hurts every seller.
 
Don Vito Corleone

Don Vito Corleone

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I won't patronize online retailers who charge excessive shipping, even if the total price (including shipping) works out to be fair, because I regard it as a dishonest business practice. I sure as hell wouldn't buy something like this.
 
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