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vexingv

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so i think i ran a traffic light this morning while leaving my place to pick up my dad. i was just about to enter the intersection when the light changed yellow and so i decided to try to gas it rather than stop dead in the middle. unfortunately it was a rather large intersection so i dont think i cleared it completely when it turned red. i was really stupid since is this intersection is about 5 min. away and i know that theres a camera (its actually on the opposite side of the street). how does the timing on these cameras work (will i probably get a ticket)? btw this is in NYC

i asked my mom (who was got caught by a camera years ago) whether its just a fine and points, which would then mean an insurance increase. but she said she only had to pay a fine. the nys dmv says points but since its a camera can they assume its the registered driver driving it? e.g. the car could have been driven by or lent to a friend.

 
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kaizersose

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Cameras fire if you enter the intersection when the light is red, not yellow. Stop worrying.

- M4H
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you will know if it takes a picture of you. almost all of the cameras have a flash and it is quite noticeable
 
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how long does it take from the camera catching you to getting a ticket
 
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aplefka

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Yeah you're fine. I've seen the flashes go off before and out here there's even a little bit of a delay. If you had already entered though you're fine like M4H said.
 
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vexingv

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so if i'm already in the intersection (which i think i was since i looked above as i crossed) when its red i wont get ticketed? like i said before its a rather large intersection since iirc the light stops maybe about 5 ft from the corner and the the street intersecting the road is a two way street.
 
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vexingv

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hmm... this camera doesnt flash..ive seen cameras that flash (where the flash comes from the red light lamp inself i think). but this is one of those tan mounted boxes with two holes in 'em. best way to describe it is it looks like a big bird house of some sort.

the street i was on is a 4 lane road (in addition to a lane on each side for parking...so i guess maybe 6 cars lanes/widths total) with a small grass island divider. the camera was mounted on the otherside of the street i.e. in the opposite direction.
 
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I know what kind you're talking about, we've got several of those. I'm betting that you're fine man, I mean if you were fully in the intersection then it's not like you went on red.
 
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Originally posted by: vexingv
so if i'm already in the intersection (which i think i was since i looked above as i crossed) when its red i wont get ticketed? like i said before its a rather large intersection since iirc the light stops maybe about 5 ft from the corner and the the street intersecting the road is a two way street.
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if you are in the intersection when the light is red, you did not run a red unless you crossed the first iteration of lines when the light was red.

Being in the intersection when the light is red is blocking the intersection, a seperate ticketable offense.


edit: i should not that those cameras are red lights "runner" cameras. being in the intersection when the light is red is a red-light type of violation, but not what the cameras are [supposed to be] setup to capture; they are supposed to catch red ligth runners.
 
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vexingv

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: vexingv
so if i'm already in the intersection (which i think i was since i looked above as i crossed) when its red i wont get ticketed? like i said before its a rather large intersection since iirc the light stops maybe about 5 ft from the corner and the the street intersecting the road is a two way street.
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if you are in the intersection when the light is red, you did not run a red unless you crossed the first iteration of lines when the light was red.

Being in the intersection when the light is red is blocking the intersection, a seperate ticketable offense.


edit: i should not that those cameras are red lights "runner" cameras. being in the intersection when the light is red is a red-light type of violation, but not what the cameras are [supposed to be] setup to capture; they are supposed to catch red ligth runners.
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i hope what you say is true. but i guess i have to wait. the thing is the car is registered under my mom but i told her about it and she wasnt very upset since she had been ticketed like that before once.
 
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vexingv

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from the nys dmv site :
"Failed to obey a traffic signal, a Stop sign, or a Yield sign" is 3 points. but i dont think they can do that since they dont know for sure who's in the car. unless these cameras can pick that up too
 
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andylawcc

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Originally posted by: vexingv
from the nys dmv site :
"Failed to obey a traffic signal, a Stop sign, or a Yield sign" is 3 points. but i dont think they can do that since they dont know for sure who's in the car. unless these cameras can pick that up too
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oh yes they do :)

from the pic they took you can clearly see the passanger and the driver, even though you can't absolutely extract/identify the person, you can still tell it was you that was in it. The judge will throw your case out Judge Judy style if you say "that wasn't me."
 
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vexingv

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: vexingv
from the nys dmv site :
"Failed to obey a traffic signal, a Stop sign, or a Yield sign" is 3 points. but i dont think they can do that since they dont know for sure who's in the car. unless these cameras can pick that up too
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oh yes they do :)

from the pic they took you can clearly see the passanger and the driver, even though you can't absolutely extract/identify the person, you can still tell it was you that was in it. The judge will throw your case out Judge Judy style if you say "that wasn't me."
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well if the ticket goes to my mom/dad since thats whom its registered to, then it isnt either of them.
 
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andylawcc

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Originally posted by: vexingv

well if the ticket goes to my mom/dad since thats whom its registered to, then it isnt either of them.
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i don't know how to answer you that, sorry.
 
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