So I just purchased a couple "CD"s...

[Demon-Xanth]

I picked up the new NIN album, and a Good Charlotte album. They had "Dual disc" versions for the same price as normal. I figured, "hey, extra content". Apparantly "Dual disc" is a synonym for "for jackasses". The NIN album took 3 tries before my DVD-RW drive even recognized it, the DVD-ROM wouldn't. The Good Charlotte album sounded like it was tearing apart my DVD-ROM drive before crashing the PC on the 11th track.

FVCK the record companies!

Next time I'm blowing my entertainment money elsewhere. If I can't listen to a CD at my PC, in my car (MP3 player), or at my work (MP3 player), the CD might as well be a $14 coaster. That way I could get some use out of it.

 

[loup garou]

The DualDiscs I have work fine in all my computers and dvd players. Perhaps yours didn't like your taste in music.

 

[amol]

iTunes Music Store > *

 

[nageov3t]

The Good Charlotte album sounded like it was tearing apart my DVD-ROM drive

the sound you mistook for your DVD drive being torn apart was almost definitely the actual craptastic music that Good Charlotte "produces"

 

[chrisms]

iTunes sucks.. you don't get anything tangible. What a genius business plan, make millions by selling something that requires no manufacturing or services, aside from a stupid little program and a bunch of servers full of music.

If it's anything like Napster, making a CD can cost up to $20. And even then all you have is a burned CD, no booklet or anything.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: Amol
iTunes Music Store > *

Wow, you're a retard. Pay 99 cents for a sh!tty ass, DRM locked, 128kbps AAC, nice. Maybe for songs I can't find elsewhere (they have exclusives sometimes) or when I got those Pepsi bottletops to get said extras, but not on a normal basis.

And to the OP, you = retard, as well. I have the Crossfade "Crossfade" Dual-Disc and it works fine. Could it be perhaps that you shouldn't be on a computer, or simply that your speakers and/or DVD drive just suck ass?

EDIT: Oh yeah, try flipping the disc over sherlock?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: chrisms
iTunes sucks.. you don't get anything tangible. What a genius business plan, make millions by selling something that requires no manufacturing or services, aside from a stupid little program and a bunch of servers full of music.

If it's anything like Napster, making a CD can cost up to $20. And even then all you have is a burned CD, no booklet or anything.

Meh, the whole tangible CD that you buy probably cost lest than a dollar to make.

 

[lizardboy]

Originally posted by: Amol
iTunes Music Store > *

AllofMP3 > iTunes

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: sheik124

Originally posted by: Amol
iTunes Music Store > *

Wow, you're a retard. Pay 99 cents for a sh!tty ass, DRM locked, 128kbps AAC, nice. Maybe for songs I can't find elsewhere (they have exclusives sometimes) or when I got those Pepsi bottletops to get said extras, but not on a normal basis.

And to the OP, you = retard, as well. I have the Crossfade "Crossfade" Dual-Disc and it works fine. Could it be perhaps that you shouldn't be on a computer, or simply that your speakers and/or DVD drive just suck ass?

EDIT: Oh yeah, try flipping the disc over sherlock?

Yes, I'm doing the CD side. I've ripped about 100 CDs with these drives (both NECs) no problem. The "tearing apart" that I am referring to is the repeated head movement trying to find the CD and repeated spinups+downs. This is not normal. I was clued in by the little tag inside stating:
"The audio side of this disc does not conform to CD specifications and therefore not all DVD and CD players will play the audio side of this disc"

...meaning that they crapped it up.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: chrisms
iTunes sucks.. you don't get anything tangible. What a genius business plan, make millions by selling something that requires no manufacturing or services, aside from a stupid little program and a bunch of servers full of music.

If it's anything like Napster, making a CD can cost up to $20. And even then all you have is a burned CD, no booklet or anything.

Meh, the whole tangible CD that you buy probably cost lest than a dollar to make.

I'd rather have the CD, booklet, liner notes, and the CDDA recording rather than the compressed, DRM-locked file you get with Crapster, iTunes, or a similar service

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: lizardboy

Originally posted by: Amol
iTunes Music Store > *

AllofMP3 > iTunes

QFT

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: sheik124

Originally posted by: Amol
iTunes Music Store > *

Wow, you're a retard. Pay 99 cents for a sh!tty ass, DRM locked, 128kbps AAC, nice. Maybe for songs I can't find elsewhere (they have exclusives sometimes) or when I got those Pepsi bottletops to get said extras, but not on a normal basis.

And to the OP, you = retard, as well. I have the Crossfade "Crossfade" Dual-Disc and it works fine. Could it be perhaps that you shouldn't be on a computer, or simply that your speakers and/or DVD drive just suck ass?

EDIT: Oh yeah, try flipping the disc over sherlock?

Yes, I'm doing the CD side. I've ripped about 100 CDs with these drives (both NECs) no problem. The "tearing apart" that I am referring to is the repeated head movement trying to find the CD and repeated spinups+downs. This is not normal. I was clued in by the little tag inside stating:
"The audio side of this disc does not conform to CD specifications and therefore not all DVD and CD players will play the audio side of this disc"

...meaning that they crapped it up.

Alot of CDs say that, it means that we're greedy bastards and have implemented some stupid copy protection, or its an ECD (enhanced CD). There was a key you could hold down that prevented this, and if I'm not mistaken, the Crossfade DD was released by Sony BMG, just as both of the mentioned DDs were. Did you try using EAC to rip it perhaps? And again, maybe you should look up that one stupid copy protection they tried to enforce and was defeated by holding down, I think shift.

 

[The Stigenator]

itunes can be unlocked.. i buy my music and unlock it for my mp3 players..

 

[Demon-Xanth]

I'm using CDex (basically the same as EAC) to rip it. Autorun is disabled on all disks on my PC. No need to hold down shift.

 

[SmoochyTX]

The new Rob Thomas Dual Disc CD doesn't work in my dual-layer DVD-RW drive (>6 months old - Sony DRU-710A). The video side worked but the CD side wouldn't work. It screeched everytime I tried to play that side.

I put the disc in my DVD-ROM drive (a couple of years old - Samsung SD-616T ) and was able to play it and rip it just fine.

There are lots of complaints about the Dual Disc format out there.

 

[FeuerFrei]

Yes I have seen complaints about Dual Disc. It's a bit thicker than a normal cd and that causes compatability issues with some drives/players.

I have no experience with the discs mentioned by the OP, but I have the Dual Disc version of NiN-the Downward Spiral and it's played smoothly on my computer (the multi-channel side). My DVD drive is a LiteOn from '01 I think.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
itunes can be unlocked.. i buy my music and unlock it for my mp3 players..

I do it with EZ CD-DA extractor

And $10 for a 16 song album != $0.99/song ...

 

[0roo0roo]

dual discs are 1.5mm. cd spec is 1.2-1.5 i think. so some players can be incompatible with dual disc as its on the edge.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: chrisms
iTunes sucks.. you don't get anything tangible. What a genius business plan, make millions by selling something that requires no manufacturing or services, aside from a stupid little program and a bunch of servers full of music.

If it's anything like Napster, making a CD can cost up to $20. And even then all you have is a burned CD, no booklet or anything.

not really. the music companies eat most of the profit. something like atlesat 70%.

as for saving money. if you buy the 2-3 good songs off an album, you still come out ahead. 3 dollars is still better than 11-16dollars. money saved is money saved. cd singles are like 5 dollars a pop u know

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

Maybe it's because good charlotte just sucks.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Amol
Stealing music > *

fixed

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I picked up the new NIN album, and a Good Charlotte album. They had "Dual disc" versions for the same price as normal. I figured, "hey, extra content". Apparantly "Dual disc" is a synonym for "for jackasses". The NIN album took 3 tries before my DVD-RW drive even recognized it, the DVD-ROM wouldn't. The Good Charlotte album sounded like it was tearing apart my DVD-ROM drive before crashing the PC on the 11th track.

FVCK the record companies!

Next time I'm blowing my entertainment money elsewhere. If I can't listen to a CD at my PC, in my car (MP3 player), or at my work (MP3 player), the CD might as well be a $14 coaster. That way I could get some use out of it.

I thought the new NIN cd ("With Teeth") comes out on May 3? Unless you are talking about "The Downward Spiral."

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
I thought the new NIN cd ("With Teeth") comes out on May 3? Unless you are talking about "The Downward Spiral."

The post office was quicker than the retailer intended. They ship from about 40 miles away, the USPS delivers on Saturday

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Just tried in my Optorite drive, 67 jitter errors on the third track. 526 on the 4th.

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: Amol
Stealing music > *

fixed

Yes, if only they have something like netflix for music.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: sheik124

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: chrisms
iTunes sucks.. you don't get anything tangible. What a genius business plan, make millions by selling something that requires no manufacturing or services, aside from a stupid little program and a bunch of servers full of music.

If it's anything like Napster, making a CD can cost up to $20. And even then all you have is a burned CD, no booklet or anything.

Meh, the whole tangible CD that you buy probably cost lest than a dollar to make.

I'd rather have the CD, booklet, liner notes, and the CDDA recording rather than the compressed, DRM-locked file you get with Crapster, iTunes, or a similar service

Me too.

Also, allofmp3 doesn't have as good of a selection as iTunes imo. But hell I don't buy from either, bit torrent does me well and if I find something I like I buy it.