So I hear that colleges give an initial test on English grammar

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Paperdoc

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You're teacher is right. I'm a fully credentialed English teacher who recieved little or no training in grammar. There is just not a push for grammar these days.
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Hmmm! "You're" should be "Your"; "recieved" should conform to the rule, "'i before 'e', except after 'c', and in words that say 'ay"\', such as 'neighbor' and 'weigh'". I'm wondering about the institution that granted the credentials.
 

Aikouka

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I learned all the parts of a sentence and diagramming in 9th grade English... quite awhile ago :eek:. I don't necessarily remember the names of all of said parts, but my grammar is usually quite good. Although, I do have some slight nuances that others don't prefer... such as not putting a comma before "and" in a list. That's just not how I roll.

Also, my favorite way of cheating in high school was putting the answers on a TI-86 and passing them around :p. The high school gave the AP Calc students TI-86s to use, and most of us had a lot of classes together. I never actually took said answers though... most people just took my answers :p.

You wanna be real tricky about cheating... use multiple versions of a test. If your area allows it, use more written sections rather than simple answers or multiple choice.
 

EGGO

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Didn't have to take one because my SAT scores were high enough to where I didn't have to take the tests.s
 

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Originally posted by: Paperdoc
You're teacher is right. I'm a fully credentialed English teacher who recieved little or no training in grammar. There is just not a push for grammar these days.
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Hmmm! "You're" should be "Your"; "recieved" should conform to the rule, "'i before 'e', except after 'c', and in words that say 'ay"\', such as 'neighbor' and 'weigh'". I'm wondering about the institution that granted the credentials.

lol "little or no training in grammar".... YA THINK????
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: uberman
Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
Our freshman HS English teacher was telling us about how VA public schools generally don't cover grammar very in-depth (diagramming sentences, all that nutty nomenclature for the different parts of speech, and so on). Because of this, many students graduating fresh out of high school generally fail their colleges' English admission tests, and are stuck into remedial English classes, regardless of their AP English classes taken in high school.

This true? Does anybody here know what an appositive phrase is by heart?

You're teacher is right. I'm a fully credentialed English teacher who recieved little or no training in grammar. There is just not a push for grammar these days.

To be frank, colleges are institutions of learning where professors get money for research. My grammar class in my undergraduate work was just that, an experiment with a professor getting credit and cash. I learned little or nothing useful. I wasn't happy about it. That's how colleges work. Another friend took a class in teaching math using wooden blocks, it was also a research experiment, so it goes.

I fear for the future of your students.
 

Acanthus

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I believe you are talking about the placement tests after you are already to admitted to the college.

Yes, a lot of colleges have placement for reading, writing, and math. (i know OSU, OU, PSU, Edinboro, Gannon, and CMU do it)

They basically give you a short quiz and if you dont fail it miserably you'll be fine and can go on. If you do poorly they reccomend remedial courses to get you caught up.