So I hear that Chrysler is losing over a billion this quarter...

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
DCX's midsize car line has always been a sore point. C'mon, the Stratus and Sebring? :roll: I've had Sebring rentals and they truely are awful vehicles.

I choose to disagree

I can't stand my parents sebring. I feel like the windshield is attached to my forehead when I drive that thing. I'm only 5'9"! I should not feel cramped in a midsize car!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
DCX's midsize car line has always been a sore point. C'mon, the Stratus and Sebring? :roll: I've had Sebring rentals and they truely are awful vehicles.

I choose to disagree

I can't stand my parents sebring. I feel like the windshield is attached to my forehead when I drive that thing. I'm only 5'9"! I should not feel cramped in a midsize car!

Weird, I'm like 6'3" and don't have that problem... maybe I have the seat leaned further back.

 

[CombatChuk]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
DCX's midsize car line has always been a sore point. C'mon, the Stratus and Sebring? :roll: I've had Sebring rentals and they truely are awful vehicles.

I choose to disagree

I can't stand my parents sebring. I feel like the windshield is attached to my forehead when I drive that thing. I'm only 5'9"! I should not feel cramped in a midsize car!

Weird, I'm like 6'3" and don't have that problem... maybe I have the seat leaned further back.

It was part of the "Cab-Forward" design where the moved the windshield far forward to get more interior spave.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

i disagree, yet agree too

Ford has the worst HD trucks out currently, craptacular engine, and not a good transmission, good interior though.

GM/DCX each have the best transmission/engine respectively, with the GM having a much better engine than ford, but not quite cummins excellent.

however, dodge and GM look different, one has the mean burly look, the other a mean flat look. interiors are both similarly low rent, but both are better than ford

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

i disagree, yet agree too

Ford has the worst HD trucks out currently, craptacular engine, and not a good transmission, good interior though.

GM/DCX each have the best transmission/engine respectively, with the GM having a much better engine than ford, but not quite cummins excellent.

however, dodge and GM look different, one has the mean burly look, the other a mean flat look. interiors are both similarly low rent, but both are better than ford

Revise sentence 1, and talk to some people that actually use HD trucks.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: j00fek
cant make $ with trucks anymore

i think you mean you can't make $ with trucks alone. trucks are bread and butter for american car companies. however, if they want to still have 100k people on their payroll they need to diversify

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

i disagree, yet agree too

Ford has the worst HD trucks out currently, craptacular engine, and not a good transmission, good interior though.

GM/DCX each have the best transmission/engine respectively, with the GM having a much better engine than ford, but not quite cummins excellent.

however, dodge and GM look different, one has the mean burly look, the other a mean flat look. interiors are both similarly low rent, but both are better than ford

Revise sentence 1, and talk to some people that actually use HD trucks.

i worked construction last year, excavating.

all of them will say the same.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

i disagree, yet agree too

Ford has the worst HD trucks out currently, craptacular engine, and not a good transmission, good interior though.

GM/DCX each have the best transmission/engine respectively, with the GM having a much better engine than ford, but not quite cummins excellent.

however, dodge and GM look different, one has the mean burly look, the other a mean flat look. interiors are both similarly low rent, but both are better than ford

Revise sentence 1, and talk to some people that actually use HD trucks.

i worked construction last year, excavating.

all of them will say the same.

I've never seen a user of HD trucks who wasn't blindingly loyal to their brand.

 

[prontospyder]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: Unheard
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/conte...923357.htm?chan=autos_autos+index+page

Thanks.

I've actually been surprised that Chrysler's "turnaround" has lasted this long. I'm not overly impressed with their offerings. Lets see...

Chrysler Sebring - New model coming out that is uglier than the old...I predict poor sales

Dodge Caliber - Really? It might be generating some sales now...but I rank it only slightly better than a Pontiac Aztek

I own one of the older model Sebrings, and I couldn't agree more with you.
But I've seen a shocking number of Calibers around here already, in all parts of town.
And you left out the Chrysler Pacifica.

I left out the Pacifica for a reason...as should everyone else from their buying lists!

same reason why Aspen and PT Cruiser were left out too?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

i disagree, yet agree too

Ford has the worst HD trucks out currently, craptacular engine, and not a good transmission, good interior though.

GM/DCX each have the best transmission/engine respectively, with the GM having a much better engine than ford, but not quite cummins excellent.

however, dodge and GM look different, one has the mean burly look, the other a mean flat look. interiors are both similarly low rent, but both are better than ford

Revise sentence 1, and talk to some people that actually use HD trucks.

i worked construction last year, excavating.

all of them will say the same.

I've never seen a user of HD trucks who wasn't blindingly loyal to their brand.

one guy drove a ford, another a dodge. the one other dude had all kinds of trucks from toyota to chevy.

an allison transmission is the best in the industry, bar none, Dodge cant build transmissions to save their life.

Cummins diesels are the best in the industry, bar none, Ford could never build the powercrap worth a diddly.

 

[ballmode]

exodus

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

i disagree, yet agree too

Ford has the worst HD trucks out currently, craptacular engine, and not a good transmission, good interior though.

GM/DCX each have the best transmission/engine respectively, with the GM having a much better engine than ford, but not quite cummins excellent.

however, dodge and GM look different, one has the mean burly look, the other a mean flat look. interiors are both similarly low rent, but both are better than ford

Revise sentence 1, and talk to some people that actually use HD trucks.

i worked construction last year, excavating.

all of them will say the same.

I've never seen a user of HD trucks who wasn't blindingly loyal to their brand.

one guy drove a ford, another a dodge. the one other dude had all kinds of trucks from toyota to chevy.

an allison transmission is the best in the industry, bar none, Dodge cant build transmissions to save their life.

Cummins diesels are the best in the industry, bar none, Ford could never build the powercrap worth a diddly.

Save the transmission comment, the complete opposite of what I have been involved with.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Dodge Ram - Not nearly as nice as the new GM pickups or the Ford F150..also has the Nissan Titan and new Tundra to compete with...it would be the last full size truck on my list

I agree if your talking about gas burners, but in the HD segement Dodge rules. The models with the Cummins Turbo desiel are the best HD trucks available, they easily spank the Powerstroke and Duramax models from Ford and GM.

You might be right...but from a company perspective...that isn't the big moneymakers...it is just needed to keep them competitive across the line.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: j00fek
cant make $ with trucks anymore

hopefully they can't make money with SUVs and stop making them...