So I have waited this long, a little more, or go with what I had in mind?

[ithehappy]

You can see what I have in my siggy. Few weeks ago I created and asked what to buy, I mean which GPU and CPU. I was told to get a 970, which I got and I was then told to get a X5675 CPU, which I haven't got, not yet, cause I had in mind that I would get it when my old GPU will be sold (GTX580), and it got sold today and now I can order the X5675, but before ordering it just one final query, I have waited this long, do you think it would be better to skip it, or go on with it?

I am done with GTA V. The game is finished, even with my old CPU the game managed to stay on 45 frames in an average at very high settings. And I won't be playing much in next couple of months due to work pressure.

So, what do you guys think? The only reason I am asking this because more time passes and the Skylake's release is coming nearer, however I am sure I won't touch it until the price cools off, and DDR4 comes at reasonable prices.

 

[A.t]

Spending money on X58 at this time and date is honestly bad advice, so I'd simply leave that route off.

As an alternative, you can opt for a Z97 setup, which would be a much better choice than that old chip.

 

[scannall]

You can see what I have in my siggy. Few weeks ago I created and asked what to buy, I mean which GPU and CPU. I was told to get a 970, which I got and I was then told to get a X5675 CPU, which I haven't got, not yet, cause I had in mind that I would get it when my old GPU will be sold (GTX580), and it got sold today and now I can order the X5675, but before ordering it just one final query, I have waited this long, do you think it would be better to skip it, or go on with it?

I am done with GTA V. The game is finished, even with my old CPU the game managed to stay on 45 frames in an average at very high settings. And I won't be playing much in next couple of months due to work pressure.

So, what do you guys think? The only reason I am asking this because more time passes and the Skylake's release is coming nearer, however I am sure I won't touch it until the price cools off, and DDR4 comes at reasonable prices.

Since you already have the X58 system, then tossing in a x5675 would be a fast, cheap boost. And more than a little fun to tinker with. Go for it, and save your money for a Skylake system.

 

[MongGrel]

Since you already have the X58 system, then tossing in a x5675 would be a fast, cheap boost. And more than a little fun to tinker with. Go for it, and save your money for a Skylake system.

I'd agree myself if you can grab a X5675 at a reasonable price and are OCing it.

Appears you are.

Have a X5680 in here at 4.6 that I nabbed for $150 a few months back, I would have rather had a X5675.

It's going to live with mine till Skylake.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2335636&highlight=l5639&page=94

That's the HTPC, the main is a different animal.

 

[ithehappy]

I am getting the X5675 for around 180 USD, that's the lowest I have found so far for my location.

Just one question, when is the Skylake E releasing?

 

[scannall]

I am getting the X5675 for around 180 USD, that's the lowest I have found so far for my location.

Just one question, when is the Skylake E releasing?

According to Intel, 3rd quarter this year. So, between July and September. My money is on August though.

Intel Roadmap

 

[ClockHound]

According to Intel, 3rd quarter this year. So, between July and September. My money is on August though.

Intel Roadmap

Uh....there's no date for Skylake-E on that roadmap. It doesn't go that far into the distant future. The Extremes are a hot group of chips spun off from Xeons - so longer validation/audition path than the pop/mainstream chip groups. The roadmap shows Broadwell-E for Q1 2016.

My guess, if we're really lucky, we see Skylake-E in late 2016.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

You're gonna love that chip

 

[ithehappy]

You're gonna love that chip

Which one is this?

 

[MongGrel]

The X5675.

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

I am getting the X5675 for around 180 USD, that's the lowest I have found so far for my location.

Just one question, when is the Skylake E releasing?

You'll be fine, new socket boards and CPU along with DDR4 are coming. Then you can make the leap after the dust settles, till then have fun with the X5675 and overclocking it should keep you busy.

 

[ithehappy]

Okay I am buying it.

If I am seeing things right then Skylake E will release Q3 or Q4 next year. I will wait at least a couple of months (it will take a month at least for even the availability of those things after release) after that for the prices to cool down a bit, if at all. In any case, I will have at least 15-18 months with the Xeon chip. 15-18 months is a long time to be quite honest, I will have more than enough want-to-spend budget by that time, unless Broadwell E will be a great chip too and that will make waiting for Skylake irrelevant or something like that. I honestly don't want this anti-air conditioning chip around me anyway. I just wish the Xeon one will run cooler, or maybe I need a better cooler.

Thanks guys, as always

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Spending money on X58 at this time and date is honestly bad advice, so I'd simply leave that route off.

As an alternative, you can opt for a Z97 setup, which would be a much better choice than that old chip.

Gee thanks.. I guess I give bad advice now since I was the one that suggested that he stay with what he had and maybe grab a x6575 or x5680 if he could find one for a good price. I thought that could save him some cash seeing how he already had a x58 mobo. No sense in him buying all new parts and mobo when a small upgrade could go a long way for the OP.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

You can see what I have in my siggy. Few weeks ago I created and asked what to buy, I mean which GPU and CPU. I was told to get a 970, which I got and I was then told to get a X5675 CPU, which I haven't got, not yet, cause I had in mind that I would get it when my old GPU will be sold (GTX580), and it got sold today and now I can order the X5675, but before ordering it just one final query, I have waited this long, do you think it would be better to skip it, or go on with it?

I am done with GTA V. The game is finished, even with my old CPU the game managed to stay on 45 frames in an average at very high settings. And I won't be playing much in next couple of months due to work pressure.

So, what do you guys think? The only reason I am asking this because more time passes and the Skylake's release is coming nearer, however I am sure I won't touch it until the price cools off, and DDR4 comes at reasonable prices.

Maybe just hold out with what you have for now?? Skylake is just a few short months away now. I would have never suggested x5675 or x6580 had I known you were wanting to go skylake. I am in the same boat you are in right now as I was going to go x99 but the price is outrageous so I am holding off for skylake as well so I can do it I am sure you can make it a little while longer. it will be well worth it in the end.

 

[ithehappy]

Umm, I am not waiting for Skylake mate, I mean I read in Anand that a price concerned customer (which is me) could skip three generations easily, now looking at my status, well how many generations I have skipped already? Four I guess, Sandy, Ivy, Haswell and Haswell E, so I could easily upgrade now, get a 5930k or something like that, BUT, if I upgrade now I just won't be upgrading anything in next three years, no darn way. So that's why I was waiting for Skylake, I mean I kept seeing comments like it will be a revolutionary change or a huge step up from the current sets of CPUs, now I know nothing but if I am going to wait then I would make sure that I am waiting for something good which would last me for a decent amount of time.

Now again, if Broadwell E, which is coming later this year, would that be a close match to Skylake and a big step up from whatever is available now, AFAIK its Haswell E right? If that's the case then I will wait six or seven months and get a Broadwell E chip.

 

[xp0c]

Im in the same boat as you. This weekend I'm ordering a x5650 or x5660(all they have close bye), and 12gb kit of ddr3 because I only got 6gb. My MSI GTX 970 will be here Thursday
I see you have 8gb of ram. You should have your ram running triple channel for better performance.

 

[bleucharm28]

I suggest getting the latest and greatest. 3 years later, sell it and buy or wait for another 2 years then do a mobo, memory, cpu upgrade.

 

[ithehappy]

God damn!

The latest and the greatest at this moment is Haswell E. And with my budget I might end up getting a 5820k for all I know! But I will wait for the DDR4 prices to come down. Those don't seem justifiable to me. And getting another 4C-8T setup doesn't interest me either.

 

[escrow4]

X58 is in the cemetery. Get a 5820K or 5930K and you won't upgrade for a long long while. And look at recent GameGPU or pclab CPU tests in games. 6 cores are on top, even by a small margin of a few FPS, you have the grunt on tap. 45FPS in GTA V is poor. My 5930K hit 60FPS+ solid except grassy areas, I wouldn't bother struggling with 45FPS and the random dips to 30.

 

[ithehappy]

Oh my! Then I guess I will wait a bit more.

I know 45 is poor man, however that's the average. At night times it was always at 60! It depends on your settings too, I had all the Advanced Settings on and at max, however MSAA wasn't on and I play at 1200p.

PS: I guess the game utilises the extra cores then? I mean I don't know how much it depends on frequency, cause I noticed almost same amount of frames with the CPU OCed to 3.7 and and at stock clock, and that was surprising to me quite honestly.

 

[ClockHound]

Okay I am buying it.

If I am seeing things right then Skylake E will release Q3 or Q4 next year. I will wait at least a couple of months (it will take a month at least for even the availability of those things after release) after that for the prices to cool down a bit, if at all. In any case, I will have at least 15-18 months with the Xeon chip. 15-18 months is a long time to be quite honest, I will have more than enough want-to-spend budget by that time, unless Broadwell E will be a great chip too and that will make waiting for Skylake irrelevant or something like that. I honestly don't want this anti-air conditioning chip around me anyway. I just wish the Xeon one will run cooler, or maybe I need a better cooler.

Thanks guys, as always

Are you using a 212 to cool the Xeon? If so, there's many better on-air options to cool. Plus making all the tweaks to get good airflow through the case.

D15, R1 Ultimate, True 140 Power would be much cooler and quieter.

My cheap 5660 build is in a Ghost ($59 on sale) with a Scythe Mugen 4 ($25 on sale). The Mugen is better than the 212 for sure, but when I pushed the OC to over 4.2, starting seeing IBT temps in the mid-70s. Some say that was good, but thought it too hot. Bitfenix cases fans are whimpy.

Now with a pair of Nocs on the cooler, some Nocs and S-Flexs in the case and a clear airflow it barely peaks above 60 in IBT at 4.2-4.3. The better fans on the cooler got me a few degrees, but better case airflow got the most. Running almost all case fans off a PWM splitter - super quiet at idle and spools up when working. Just like me.

With the incredible performance value of the cheap OC'd Hex-core Xeons, I'm content to wait until Skylak-E and the DDR4 dust to settle. Will kill me to pay full clip for a hex-core tho. The SKY-Eees better start with 8 cores or may have to wait for another Lake to fill.

While waiting there's still the 5675 out there to take the edge off.

 

[ithehappy]

Are you using a 212 to cool the Xeon? If so, there's many better on-air options to cool. Plus making all the tweaks to get good airflow through the case.

D15, R1 Ultimate, True 140 Power would be much cooler and quieter.

I 'will' be using the Hyper 'if' I get the Xeon. I don't have it yet!

Anyway, the Hyper is with a push pull config, with one standard CM fan and another Corsair performance series fan or something. And the airflow of my cabby is decent enough. There is no place left to fit another fan as I have filled them all, also I don't use the side panel, so there you go.

I will look at those coolers, thanks. I was thinking about going water, but I'm scared, and I don't want to invest behind something like H100 or those kinds, was thinking about getting an entry level one.

If I were in UK or US or Russia I would keep my 950, as it's a beautiful heater, but as I'm in Calcutta I need something which won't fight my AC, LOL. No more hot and power hungry chips, don't care how much extra performance they pull.

 

[XavierMace]

X58 is in the cemetery. Get a 5820K or 5930K and you won't upgrade for a long long while.

A X5650 (6 Cores, 2.66Ghz, 90W) is $80. A X5670 (6 Cores, 2.93Ghz, 90W) is $110. If he wants more efficiency (since he mentioned no more power hungry), a L5640 (6 Cores, 2.26Ghz, 60W) is $60. A 5930K (6 Cores, 3.5Ghz, 140W) is $580. And he'd still need a motherboard and RAM. You're going to have a hard time convincing me that's the better bargain.

I'm all for buying new computer parts. But if you want 6 cores (and why wouldn't you, lol) IMO, the price gap is far too large between Haswell-E and Westmere EP to justify X58 owners making the jump to Haswell-E.

 

[ClockHound]

I 'will' be using the Hyper 'if' I get the Xeon. I don't have it yet!

Anyway, the Hyper is with a push pull config, with one standard CM fan and another Corsair performance series fan or something. And the airflow of my cabby is decent enough. There is no place left to fit another fan as I have filled them all, also I don't use the side panel, so there you go.

I will look at those coolers, thanks. I was thinking about going water, but I'm scared, and I don't want to invest behind something like H100 or those kinds, was thinking about getting an entry level one.

If I were in UK or US or Russia I would keep my 950, as it's a beautiful heater, but as I'm in Calcutta I need something which won't fight my AC, LOL. No more hot and power hungry chips, don't care how much extra performance they pull.

Be very afraid of the AIOs - they are more vapour marketing than water cooling. The air coolers listed above perform better, cost less than the H100 and do so while being 4-6X quieter.

With a mild overclock - 4.0-4.2, the 95W Xeons will push out less heat than a 950 OC'd. So, there's that.

What case do you have? More fans is rarely the answer - it's the fan type and placement to direct airflow where it needs to go that really matters.

 

[ithehappy]

Be very afraid of the AIOs - they are more vapour marketing than water cooling. The air coolers listed above perform better, cost less than the H100 and do so while being 4-6X quieter.

With a mild overclock - 4.0-4.2, the 95W Xeons will push out less heat than a 950 OC'd. So, there's that.

What case do you have? More fans is rarely the answer - it's the fan type and placement to direct airflow where it needs to go that really matters.

Umm I have a CM 690 II Plus version. Yeah, I know that number of fans don't matter and I have placed them with a little more care. One upwards, working as an exhaust unit, one facing down to bring in the outside air and all that.


By the way, when I say I don't want a hot and power hungry chip I mostly mean for IDLE conditions. I don't care how much a chip consumes when I'm gaming or watching a movie. It's the high IDLE consumption which I can't fathom, because this is my 3-in-1 system, downloading, work and then the most important one, gaming